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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1281 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon May 5, 2014 5:25 pm

yosemiteben wrote:With that said, I haven't look at his advanced stats and maybe I overestimate his contributions on that end of the floor.


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Walker - 106.7 DefRtg, 0.5 DWS
Henderson - 107.4 DefRtg, 0.2 DWS

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Walker - 108.2 DefRtg, 1.1 DWS
Henderson - 109.4 DefRtg, 0.3 DWS

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Walker - 99.1 DefRtg, 3.3 DWS
Henderson - 101.9 DefRtg, 2.8 DWS
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1282 » by catch20two » Mon May 5, 2014 10:32 pm

I've always thought Hendo was a overrated defender. He's not a bad defender but he's definitely just average. Slightly above average on ball defender and a horrible off ball defender leaves him average overall. He's not a stopper, just a stopgap.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1283 » by ARHornet » Mon May 5, 2014 10:43 pm

catch20two wrote:I've always thought Hendo was a overrated defender. He's not a bad defender but he's definitely just average. Slightly above average on ball defender and a horrible off ball defender leaves him average overall. He's not a stopper, just a stopgap.

He's overrated as a defender by Charlotte fans because, other than MKG, he's the best wing defender we have. So we value him higher than we should. He's not a bad defender. But as you said, he's average.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1284 » by catch20two » Mon May 5, 2014 10:48 pm

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catch20two wrote:I've always thought Hendo was a overrated defender. He's not a bad defender but he's definitely just average. Slightly above average on ball defender and a horrible off ball defender leaves him average overall. He's not a stopper, just a stopgap.

He's overrated as a defender by Charlotte fans because, other than MKG, he's the best wing defender we have. So we value him higher than we should. He's not a bad defender. But as you said, he's average.

MKG is a superior defender compared to Hendo, like 2-3 levels up, and even Kemba is better.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1285 » by SeanBobcats » Mon May 5, 2014 10:48 pm

Definitely needs an upgrade. He exploded last season in the last 20 games or so but he was very disappointing this season. He shoots too many jumpers and doesn't drive to the basket as much as he should. If we can get a replacement, I would like to dump him to another team if anyone will take him.
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Post#1286 » by catch20two » Mon May 5, 2014 10:53 pm

SeanBobcats wrote:Definitely needs an upgrade. He exploded last season in the last 20 games or so but he was very disappointing this season. He shoots too many jumpers and doesn't drive to the basket as much as he should. If we can get a replacement, I would like to dump him to another team if anyone will take him.

Hendo would be a better player if he drove to the basket more but he'll never be consistent at driving to the hole because he ain't got no handles. He'd get ripped over and over like in the Heat series if he tried to drive a lot.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1287 » by ARHornet » Mon May 5, 2014 10:54 pm

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catch20two wrote:I've always thought Hendo was a overrated defender. He's not a bad defender but he's definitely just average. Slightly above average on ball defender and a horrible off ball defender leaves him average overall. He's not a stopper, just a stopgap.

He's overrated as a defender by Charlotte fans because, other than MKG, he's the best wing defender we have. So we value him higher than we should. He's not a bad defender. But as you said, he's average.

MKG is a superior defender compared to Hendo, like 2-3 levels up, and even Kemba is better.

Yeah, I said of the wings, so I wasn't comparing him to Kemba. Obviously MKG is better. Hendo is the 2nd best wing defender we have which leads our fans to overrate him a bit. When in reality, even though compared to our other wings he is a good defender, in the grand scheme of the entire NBA he is merely average.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1288 » by catch20two » Mon May 5, 2014 11:14 pm

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ARHornet wrote:He's overrated as a defender by Charlotte fans because, other than MKG, he's the best wing defender we have. So we value him higher than we should. He's not a bad defender. But as you said, he's average.

MKG is a superior defender compared to Hendo, like 2-3 levels up, and even Kemba is better.

Yeah, I said of the wings, so I wasn't comparing him to Kemba. Obviously MKG is better. Hendo is the 2nd best wing defender we have which leads our fans to overrate him a bit. When in reality, even though compared to our other wings he is a good defender, in the grand scheme of the entire NBA he is merely average.

Cho has done a poor job of bringing in talent to challenge the wing positions over the years. However I'm happy that he didn't draft Mclemore. I'd rather deal with Hendo for another 2 years than waste 5 years trying to make Mclemore a real player. CDR might be the best competition Cho brought in to challenge Hendo in 3 years and he was a late scrap from the D-League only because Taylor and MKG got injured.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1289 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon May 5, 2014 11:16 pm

I would be absolutely astonished if Henderson is our starting 2 guard next year. I just don't see it happening.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1290 » by MasterIchiro » Tue May 6, 2014 6:08 am

catch20two wrote:
SeanBobcats wrote:Definitely needs an upgrade. He exploded last season in the last 20 games or so but he was very disappointing this season. He shoots too many jumpers and doesn't drive to the basket as much as he should. If we can get a replacement, I would like to dump him to another team if anyone will take him.

Hendo would be a better player if he drove to the basket more but he'll never be consistent at driving to the hole because he ain't got no handles. He'd get ripped over and over like in the Heat series if he tried to drive a lot.


He has no handles and no speed. He's slow and bulky and he tries to bulldoze over people with poor ball control. He sucks really badly. He's an average shooter. That's what secured his contract.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1291 » by JDR720 » Tue May 6, 2014 8:10 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I would be absolutely astonished if Henderson is our starting 2 guard next year. I just don't see it happening.


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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1292 » by HornetJail » Tue May 6, 2014 8:43 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I would be absolutely astonished if Henderson is our starting 2 guard next year. I just don't see it happening.

I'd be disappointed, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. He did his part to help us into the playoffs. I respect two-way players, particularly on the wings and while he's not ideal, he's serviceable. I'd rather go another year with Hendo than spend $11M on Gordon Hayward or Rudy Gay.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1293 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue May 6, 2014 9:50 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:I would be absolutely astonished if Henderson is our starting 2 guard next year. I just don't see it happening.

I'd be disappointed, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. He did his part to help us into the playoffs. I respect two-way players, particularly on the wings and while he's not ideal, he's serviceable. I'd rather go another year with Hendo than spend $11M on Gordon Hayward or Rudy Gay.


If we go another year with Henderson we better find a shooter at the 3.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1294 » by catch20two » Tue May 6, 2014 10:16 pm

I have this bad gut feeling that we'll go into next season with Hendo starting at the 2 but we'll sign or trade for somebody to give MKG competition at the 3. Hendo is a curse.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1295 » by HornetJail » Tue May 6, 2014 10:36 pm

catch20two wrote:I have this bad gut feeling that we'll go into next season with Hendo starting at the 2 but we'll sign or trade for somebody to give MKG competition at the 3. Hendo is a curse.

If we don't trade him, Hendo should be our backup SF. I honestly think he plays better at the SF.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1296 » by catch20two » Tue May 6, 2014 10:50 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
catch20two wrote:I have this bad gut feeling that we'll go into next season with Hendo starting at the 2 but we'll sign or trade for somebody to give MKG competition at the 3. Hendo is a curse.

If we don't trade him, Hendo should be our backup SF. I honestly think he plays better at the SF.

I wish Cliff used him like that at the end of this season. We might've won a game in the playoffs.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1297 » by HornetJail » Tue May 6, 2014 10:59 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Is Gerald Henderson's defense overrated or is Kemba Walker's defense underrated?
Does anyone here actually think Kemba's a below average defender? For the second half of the season, he was better defensively than he was offensively if you ask me. Sure he found teammates but he bricked like 65% of his shots. Kemba's all-around game, his ability to do EVERYTHING well (including defense) is why I'm positive he'll be an all-star someday. I don't think anybody here thinks Kemba's a bad defender.

Gerald is starting to get underrated around here quite honestly. We're all trashing him for not being the ideal fit at SG, but in actuality, he's pretty good. Very good one-on-one defender, though not anything special playing off-the-ball. He's not great at anything- doesn't really have an elite skill other than the most inefficient shot in basketball which he makes fairly efficiently :-? , but he's a good all-around player. He also shot significantly better percentages than Kemba this season whether you want to believe me or not. Gerald's a legit NBA starter, just not for a team with aspirations to go make noise in the playoffs that already has a jump-shot-less SF/SG starting for them.

Unless we've got a signing lined up and we need the cap room, I'm not ready to dump Hendo just for cap room, and I'm certainly not interested in giving up assets to do so.
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1298 » by Eoghan » Wed May 7, 2014 2:49 am

Gerald is so good that nobody wants him.
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Post#1299 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 7, 2014 3:35 am

BrotherDave wrote:Gerald is so good that nobody wants him.


Only Charlotte has valued him, and his value was inflated due to starring on a repugnant 7-59 team and a detestable 21-61 team on higher volume/usage than any NBA team that consisted of legit talent at the wing positions would allow. He's a average defender & scorer at best, while being a below average perimeter shooter & ball handler. In hindsight, I'm disappointed in Cho for the re-signing, because I think Henderson could've been re-signed for $3-5 million annually instead of $6 million considering that there wasn't any interest from other teams for his services. They gave him a 'loyalty' contract
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Re: Where is the 3pt Line? - The Hendo Thread 

Post#1300 » by BobsBuddy » Wed May 7, 2014 2:51 pm

:noway: I'm convinced that Hendo will be traded during this upcoming draft with our 25th pick probably for Afflalo,Nelson from Orlando. Clifford wants Afflalo on this team and we have Cap Space to absorb Nelson and still have bucks left to sign more players.

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