The Trade Thread

[HotelVitale]

Smith is a better compliment to Howard than Asik is. In fact, I'd say they win that series if they had Josh (weird, I know).
Really though, the Rockets are going to have to look to upgrade either the PG spot or the 4 this off season. If we could somehow snag T-Jones in a trade for Josh, oh man.
DET OUT: Josh, Datome
DET IN: T Jones
HOU Out: Asik, Jones
HOU IN: Josh, Seraphin, Datome, WAS 2nd
WAS OUT: Seraphin, 2nd
WAS IN: Asik

That's a great trade for all involved. It solves problems for each team, and improves each team as well. Great trade, Combo.

This isn't an awful trade and might have worked if Smith didn't just have a truly miserable season in the first year of a huge 4 year deal. Obviously Asik isn't a great fit with D12 and Smith might be slightly better, but Smith still can't shoot, still can't make the right decision, and still makes a massive amount of money. Can't see Morey entertaining any offers for him, especially not one involving a skilled and smart player like Jones (who posted a PER over 19 this year, BTW).

[Pharaoh]

I don't think we could get Jones for Smith...Asik should be our target

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[ImHeisenberg]

Question: Outside of trading Drummond- what kind of deal could we put together to convince the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson? Picks and players on the table. What could we offer that would convince them to send Klay?

[Pharaoh]

They'd want Monroe as a starting point but since salaries wouldn't match and S&T rules are weird they'd likely want to send Bogut back.

K.C.P would be their next target, and probably #8.

Bogut for Monroe
Klay for KCP & 8

They become: Monroe, Lee, Iggy, KCP, Curry and probably go big at #8

We become: Dre, Smith, Singler, Klay, Jennings with Bogut off the bench

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[ImHeisenberg]

They'd want Monroe as a starting point but since salaries wouldn't match and S&T rules are weird they'd likely want to send Bogut back.

K.C.P would be their next target, and probably #8.

Bogut for Monroe
Klay for KCP & 8

They become: Monroe, Lee, Iggy, KCP, Curry and probably go big at #8

We become: Dre, Smith, Singler, Klay, Jennings with Bogut off the bench

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I think I'd be good with that trade. We would still need to address the small forward situation. But, Klay would be a massive upgrade at the wing.

[Neptune]

Question: Outside of trading Drummond- what kind of deal could we put together to convince the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson? Picks and players on the table. What could we offer that would convince them to send Klay?

Pick your poison:
-KCP+8th pick for Klay
-KCP+S&T Monroe+Singler for Barnes+Klay+Bogut

[theBigLip]

Question: Outside of trading Drummond- what kind of deal could we put together to convince the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson? Picks and players on the table. What could we offer that would convince them to send Klay?

Pick your poison:
-KCP+8th pick for Klay
-KCP+S&T Monroe+Singler for Barnes+Klay+Bogut

I don't think we can do the second one - sign and trades can't be combined with other players (I think).

We can get someone as good as Klay with the 8th pick. No reason to give them KCP. We need to be patient. Build around KCP, Monroe, Drummond. Anyone else can be traded. Use the 8th pick and fill in another spot (PG-Smart?), and then overpay Ariza.

Starting 5:
Smart
KCP
Ariza
Monroe
Drummond

Trade Smith and Jennings for whatever. Get a good coach that can get these guys playing smart ball.

[Blkbrd671]

Question: Outside of trading Drummond- what kind of deal could we put together to convince the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson? Picks and players on the table. What could we offer that would convince them to send Klay?

Pick your poison:
-KCP+8th pick for Klay
-KCP+S&T Monroe+Singler for Barnes+Klay+Bogut

I don't think we can do the second one - sign and trades can't be combined with other players (I think).

We can get someone as good as Klay with the 8th pick. No reason to give them KCP. We need to be patient. Build around KCP, Monroe, Drummond. Anyone else can be traded. Use the 8th pick and fill in another spot (PG-Smart?), and then overpay Ariza.

Starting 5:
Smart
KCP
Ariza
Monroe
Drummond

Trade Smith and Jennings for whatever. Get a good coach that can get these guys playing smart ball.

I'd rather overpay Hayward than Ariza. I fear he's a contract year player

[rmfc]

Pick your poison:
-KCP+8th pick for Klay
-KCP+S&T Monroe+Singler for Barnes+Klay+Bogut

I don't think we can do the second one - sign and trades can't be combined with other players (I think).

We can get someone as good as Klay with the 8th pick. No reason to give them KCP. We need to be patient. Build around KCP, Monroe, Drummond. Anyone else can be traded. Use the 8th pick and fill in another spot (PG-Smart?), and then overpay Ariza.

Starting 5:
Smart
KCP
Ariza
Monroe
Drummond

Trade Smith and Jennings for whatever. Get a good coach that can get these guys playing smart ball.

I'd rather overpay Hayward than Ariza. I fear he's a contract year player

Agreed. Hayward would be a fantastic addition to this team. Ball handler, play maker, shooter and fast break specialist -- what's not to like?

Edit: And no to Ariza, BTW.

[ImHeisenberg]

Question: Outside of trading Drummond- what kind of deal could we put together to convince the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson? Picks and players on the table. What could we offer that would convince them to send Klay?

Pick your poison:
-KCP+8th pick for Klay
-KCP+S&T Monroe+Singler for Barnes+Klay+Bogut

I could live with either of those deals. Honestly, I'd prefer the second deal if we're getting Barnes as well. Bogut is oft-injured, but he would be a necessary evil to bring in two young and dynamic wings.

[Warspite]

I don't think we can do the second one - sign and trades can't be combined with other players (I think).

We can get someone as good as Klay with the 8th pick. No reason to give them KCP. We need to be patient. Build around KCP, Monroe, Drummond. Anyone else can be traded. Use the 8th pick and fill in another spot (PG-Smart?), and then overpay Ariza.

Starting 5:
Smart
KCP
Ariza
Monroe
Drummond

Trade Smith and Jennings for whatever. Get a good coach that can get these guys playing smart ball.

I'd rather overpay Hayward than Ariza. I fear he's a contract year player

Agreed. Hayward would be a fantastic addition to this team. Ball handler, play maker, shooter and fast break specialist -- what's not to like?

Edit: And no to Ariza, BTW.

Realy??

Well he cant shoot 3s
He hasnt proven anything.
He cant play without the ball very well
He cant play defense.

Sounds like a max player to me.

Or maybe Josh Smith 2.0

His career playoff FG% .182

Oh I know you pay him max because of his PER of 16.

It is uncanny how Hayward and Smith have almost the same stats last yr. I guess we could build a team with 3 players who cant shoot 42%

[sc8581]

I'd rather overpay Hayward than Ariza. I fear he's a contract year player

Agreed. Hayward would be a fantastic addition to this team. Ball handler, play maker, shooter and fast break specialist -- what's not to like?

Edit: And no to Ariza, BTW.

Realy??

Well he cant shoot 3s
He hasnt proven anything.
He cant play without the ball very well
He cant play defense.

Sounds like a max player to me.

Or maybe Josh Smith 2.0

His career playoff FG% .182

Oh I know you pay him max because of his PER of 16.

It is uncanny how Hayward and Smith have almost the same stats last yr. I guess we could build a team with 3 players who cant shoot 42%

It's unfortunate how much you don't understand about basketball players.

[paQo the BAWSER]

I think the most realistic option is keep the same team (maybe trade Smith and/or Jennings), why not did little signs and get a decent bench or role starters?

Sign Nick Young, Mills, Farmar... that type of player.

[Pharaoh]

Just gonna throw this out there cause I can

Dual S&T between us and the Jazz. They get Monroe, we get Hayward...

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[paQo the BAWSER]

I don't think Utah let go Hayward.

We got a true PF (neither of us like him, agree) with contract, why sign Monroe who doesn't prove if he can adapt at PF??

If we could trade Smith without hurt too much this team, ok, sign Monroe.
If we could trade both and get a shooter PF, great for us.

But right now, we need to expend the money in the SF and the PG, because Jennings is the worst player on this team no doubt.

PG: Kyle Lowry, Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison, Patrick Mills, Jordan Farmar...

SF: Gordon Hayward, Trevor Ariza, Nick Young, Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Marvin Williams...

[rmfc]

I'd rather overpay Hayward than Ariza. I fear he's a contract year player

Agreed. Hayward would be a fantastic addition to this team. Ball handler, play maker, shooter and fast break specialist -- what's not to like?

Edit: And no to Ariza, BTW.

Realy??

Well he cant shoot 3s
He hasnt proven anything.
He cant play without the ball very well
He cant play defense.

Sounds like a max player to me.

Or maybe Josh Smith 2.0

His career playoff FG% .182

Oh I know you pay him max because of his PER of 16.

It is uncanny how Hayward and Smith have almost the same stats last yr. I guess we could build a team with 3 players who cant shoot 42%

Pistons shouldn't go near him if he still thinks he will the MAX.
The rest?
He can shoot the 3.
He can play without the ball.
He is a decent defender.
He hasn't proven anything? What does he need to prove? I am saying that Hayward would be a nice fit here at the SF spot. I don't think I ever said or even implied that he some kind of savior.
Hayward would just be a nice fit here ....In the sense that he would be like an additional ball handler, play maker, fast break finisher + shooter from the 3 spot. I think that's something we had been looking for a long time now, no?

[BadMofoPimp]

Klay and Hayward are a waste of discussion. They are not on the market and anything outside of trading Monroe or Drummond is going to snag them. Because, KCP and the 8th pick are both question marks while Klay and Hayward are proven products. I wouldn't trade them either if I was those teams thus I can't fathom those teams considering these deals unless it is a draft day trade of which a player slides that they like.

[Clarity]

Realy??

Well he cant shoot 3s
He hasnt proven anything.
He cant play without the ball very well
He cant play defense.

Sounds like a max player to me.

Or maybe Josh Smith 2.0

His career playoff FG% .182

Oh I know you pay him max because of his PER of 16.

It is uncanny how Hayward and Smith have almost the same stats last yr. I guess we could build a team with 3 players who cant shoot 42%

Wait..... What?

You know were discussing Gordon Hayward, not Hayward Workman

I better get multiple and 1's for that reference god damnit.

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It's unfortunate how much you don't understand about basketball players.

man...

[sc8581]

Klay and Hayward are a waste of discussion. They are not on the market and anything outside of trading Monroe or Drummond is going to snag them. Because, KCP and the 8th pick are both question marks while Klay and Hayward are proven products. I wouldn't trade them either if I was those teams thus I can't fathom those teams considering these deals unless it is a draft day trade of which a player slides that they like.

Hayward will be a restricted free agent this summer, Utah likely matches but you never know since they are so far away from contention, especially in the West.

[rmfc]

.....
not Hayward Workman
......

Who?