2014 Free Agency Thread

Liver_Pooty · Post #761 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:14 am

Bradley is purely a SG.. And theres nothing average about his defense guarding the 2 at all. Especially on the perimeter. Not sure if hes a good fit but I wouldn't jump off a building if he did.

Post #762 » by **Diop** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:17 am

Bradley is also injury prone

catch20two · Post #763 » by **catch20two** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:23 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-ba ... or-bradley

Could possibly get him cheap

Like I said in the wings thread. He's only worth about 4 mil. Backup material.

Not remotely a point guard (only averaged 1.4apg despite starting 58 games and had 11 more TOs than AST all year). Purely a two-guard, but if he's cheap, I'd take him. Somehow managed 39.5% on threes last year on 200 attempts too.

At 6-2 he's damn sure not a SG either.

Post #764 » by **JDR720** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:27 am

catch20two wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
catch20two wrote:Like I said in the wings thread. He's only worth about 4 mil. Backup material.

Not remotely a point guard (only averaged 1.4apg despite starting 58 games and had 11 more TOs than AST all year). Purely a two-guard, but if he's cheap, I'd take him. Somehow managed 39.5% on threes last year on 200 attempts too.

At 6-2 he's damn sure not a SG either.

He is a SG by the way he plays he just happens to have a PG body

Liver_Pooty · Post #765 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:27 am

Sachmo wrote:Bradley is also injury prone

Thats the main thing keeping him from a nice pay day

catch20two · Post #766 » by **catch20two** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:28 am

JDR720 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:Not remotely a point guard (only averaged 1.4apg despite starting 58 games and had 11 more TOs than AST all year). Purely a two-guard, but if he's cheap, I'd take him. Somehow managed 39.5% on threes last year on 200 attempts too.

At 6-2 he's damn sure not a SG either.

He is a SG by the way he plays he just happens to have a PG body

Don't want. If he can't play PG then he's not that useful at that size.

mrknowitall215 · Post #767 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:40 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Bradley is purely a SG.. And theres nothing average about his defense guarding the 2 at all. Especially on the perimeter. Not sure if hes a good fit but I wouldn't jump off a building if he did.

At 6'2", Bradley is not purely a shooting guard. Even a lot of Celtics publications still enlist him as a point guard despite the fact that he starts at shooting guard. Bradley is essentially a combo guard by default due to the fact that he's not much of a ball handler/playmaker to be considered a point guard, and he's perceived as a defender but he's not as effective of a defender at shooting guard as he is at point guard. Doc Rivers used Bradley as a on-ball defender to provide pressure on opposing point guards to spell Rajon Rondo energy, and he's still living off that perceived reputation. Bradley isn't a ideal shooting guard option at all

Bradley has a 99.4 DefRtg defending point guards and a 102.2 DefRtg defending shooting guards

I'll take from excerpts...

In the past, Bradley has played shooting guard next to Rajon Rondo. It hasn't been a perfect pairing, and the lack of backcourt size is glaring.

Liver_Pooty · Post #768 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:43 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Bradley is purely a SG.. And theres nothing average about his defense guarding the 2 at all. Especially on the perimeter. Not sure if hes a good fit but I wouldn't jump off a building if he did.

At 6'2", Bradley is not purely a shooting guard. Even a lot of Celtics publications still enlist him as a point guard despite the fact that he starts at shooting guard. Bradley is essentially a combo guard by default due to the fact that he's not much of a ball handler/playmaker to be considered a point guard, and he's perceived as a defender but he's not as effective of a defender at shooting guard as he is at point guard. Doc Rivers used Bradley as a on-ball defender to provide pressure on opposing point guards to spell Rajon Rondo energy, and he's still living off that perceived reputation. Bradley isn't a ideal shooting guard option at all

Bradley has a 99.4 DefRtg defending point guards and a 102.2 DefRtg defending shooting guards

I'll take from excerpts...

In the past, Bradley has played shooting guard next to Rajon Rondo. It hasn't been a perfect pairing, and the lack of backcourt size is glaring.

Well of course he is going to be better off defending PG's..

On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

mrknowitall215 · Post #769 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:51 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

Liver_Pooty · Post #770 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:55 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

I can definitely see Detroit trying to overpay for him.

mrknowitall215 · Post #771 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:06 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

I can definitely see Detroit trying to overpay for him.

Depending on who they draft, I would probably recommend them to sign Ariza, even if they have to overpay ($7 million for no more than 2-3 years should be their ideal offer). The last thing that Detroit team need is anymore egos on the roster, and Ariza is the prototype glue guy/role player that can be a X-factor all the while providing them some spacing at the wing position

HornetJail · Post #772 » by **HornetJail** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:45 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

I can definitely see Detroit trying to overpay for him.

Depending on who they draft, I would probably recommend them to sign Ariza, even if they have to overpay ($7 million for no more than 2-3 years should be their ideal offer). The last thing that Detroit team need is anymore egos on the roster, and Ariza is the prototype glue guy/role player that can be a X-factor all the while providing them some spacing at the wing position

That said, they'll probably give Evan Turner the max.

Post #773 » by **Diop** » Wed May 7, 2014 6:09 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

Haven't we seen this before with Ariza.

He had a good postseason with LA, so Houston overpaid and got stuck with him.

He seems pretty meh to me, but still better than Hendo

BobsBuddy · Post #774 » by **BobsBuddy** » Wed May 7, 2014 2:37 pm

Yoseemebiteme ,What ya smokin anyway?
That Detroit pick to Houston for Parsons contract (expiring after next season) is a great deal and helps Mello land in Houston.NYK gets Linn, Asik and MKG.. If our team record gets better and he does well we extend him midseason.Trade checker #6446784 . Houston might even throw in a future 1st round pick?

HornetJail · Post #775 » by **HornetJail** » Wed May 7, 2014 2:38 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::banghead: Yoseemebiteme ,What ya smokin anyway?
That Detroit pick to Houston for Parsons contract (expiring after next season) is a great deal and helps Mello land in Houston.NYK gets Linn, Asik and MKG.. If our team record gets better and he does well we extend him midseason.Trade checker #6446784 . Houston might even throw in a future 1st round pick?

what the **** are you talking about?

mrknowitall215 · Post #776 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 7, 2014 2:48 pm

Sachmo wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:On another note, I can see us making a pretty good push for Ariza this Summer. Hes had a nice post season.

I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

Haven't we seen this before with Ariza.

He had a good postseason with LA, so Houston overpaid and got stuck with him.

He seems pretty meh to me, but still better than Hendo

Yes, we have seen this Ariza before, and he underwhelmed at his next destination as you stated. That's the exact reason why I wouldn't be too thrilled about his recent performance or solid season to the point where I'd be highly interested in him. Ariza had a good year on a contract year, go figure

Post #777 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed May 7, 2014 3:06 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
BobsBuddy wrote::banghead: Yoseemebiteme ,What ya smokin anyway?
That Detroit pick to Houston for Parsons contract (expiring after next season) is a great deal and helps Mello land in Houston.NYK gets Linn, Asik and MKG.. If our team record gets better and he does well we extend him midseason.Trade checker #6446784 . Houston might even throw in a future 1st round pick?

what the **** are you talking about?

BB, I actually was complimenting you, as most of the trade proposals you post are completely unrealistic and IMO leave us in worse shape. I was saying you actually posted a trade that left us with a workable starting lineup that might even be an upgrade, which is not the norm for you.

Think you decided to react to the wrong person. With that said, MKG + an unprotected 1st round pick from a train wreck team for Chandler is way too much IMO.

dlts20 · Post #778 » by **dlts20** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:09 pm

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Post #779 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 7, 2014 7:51 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2049 ... -beginning

as good of a place as any...

Post #780 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 7, 2014 7:54 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Sachmo wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
I think Trevor Ariza's good postseason is making it difficult for Washington to part ways with him. I fully expect for him to re-sign with the Wizards under the full MLE ($5-6 million) unless a desperate team overpay for his services at around $7-9 million. Hopefully Charlotte isn't one of those desperate teams

Haven't we seen this before with Ariza.

He had a good postseason with LA, so Houston overpaid and got stuck with him.

He seems pretty meh to me, but still better than Hendo

Yes, we have seen this Ariza before, and he underwhelmed at his next destination as you stated. That's the exact reason why I wouldn't be too thrilled about his recent performance or solid season to the point where I'd be highly interested in him. Ariza had a good year on a contract year, go figure

someone had some good analysis of ariza a few days ago, but i cant remember who. anyway, basically said that new orleans and rockets had ariza trying to do too much - scoring off the dribble on pull ups etc... the wiz simplified things and just stick him in the corner to shoot 3s (mainly), something he is really good at.

that being said, its easy to be skeptical of guys having good years in a contract year, especially when they have done it before.