redraft the current league in their primes

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #21 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:11 pm

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

It's called a joke. Do you know what a "sense of humor" is?

Sorry my sense of humor only entertains new content, bad at tolerating old & repeated jokes, also in the context of basketball actually respects players based on their accomplishments & doesn't judge their entire career only based on their most recent game.

dunkman04 · Post #22 » by **dunkman04** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:12 pm

I HATE Kobe and anyone who has him lower than 3 is just being ridiculous. Kevin Garnett over Kobe? What?

I would probably have to do:

1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Durant
5. KG
6. Dirk

After that it's kind of a hodgepodge of young guys with untapped potential and more veteran players who are great but have substantial flaws in their resume.

Also, I learned in this thread that Jeff Green is going to have a better career than Ginobli. Get to work Jeff, you have a LONG way to go!

UnbelievablyRAW · Post #23 » by **UnbelievablyRAW** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:12 pm

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

He wasn't even a top 5 player that season. He won it because the Bulls were the best team

HIs prime is MVP, because he won MVP.

do you understand this concept?

Winning the MVP doesn't mean its your best season. Paul could have won it this year but 07/08 was his prime year

Regardless, like I said his MVP year wasn't top tier stuff, he was a bit better than Westbrook

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #24 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:18 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
He wasn't even a top 5 player that season. He won it because the Bulls were the best team

HIs prime is MVP, because he won MVP.

do you understand this concept?

Winning the MVP doesn't mean its your best season. Paul could have won it this year but 07/08 was his prime year

Regardless, like I said his MVP year wasn't top tier stuff, he was a bit better than Westbrook

YES, I KNOW THAT.

But in context of D-Rose, his PRIME (thus far) was his MVP year, and NOT the year he was injured.

Prince187 · Post #25 » by **Prince187** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:22 pm

dunkman04 wrote:I HATE Kobe and anyone who has him lower than 3 is just being ridiculous. Kevin Garnett over Kobe? What?

I would probably have to do:

1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Durant
5. KG
6. Dirk

After that it's kind of a hodgepodge of young guys with untapped potential and more veteran players who are great but have substantial flaws in their resume.

Also, I learned in this thread that Jeff Green is going to have a better career than Ginobli. Get to work Jeff, you have a LONG way to go!

Prime Kobe couldn't do better than an 8 seed. I even think I rated him too high and I underrated Dirk. I'd take Dirk over Kobe.

WVSArtist · Post #26 » by **WVSArtist** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:23 pm

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Lebron James
5. Dirk Nowitski
6. Kevin Durant
7. Vince Carter
8. Ray Allen
9. Dwayne Wade
10. Paul Pierce
11. Dwight Howard
12. Chris Paul

everyone else in some kind of order.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #27 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:25 pm

Prince187 wrote:
dunkman04 wrote:I HATE Kobe and anyone who has him lower than 3 is just being ridiculous. Kevin Garnett over Kobe? What?

I would probably have to do:

1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Durant
5. KG
6. Dirk

After that it's kind of a hodgepodge of young guys with untapped potential and more veteran players who are great but have substantial flaws in their resume.

Also, I learned in this thread that Jeff Green is going to have a better career than Ginobli. Get to work Jeff, you have a LONG way to go!

Prime Kobe couldn't do better than an 8 seed. I even think I rated him too high and I underrated Dirk. I'd take Dirk over Kobe.

stahp.

Mich3006 · Post #28 » by **Mich3006** » Wed May 7, 2014 1:42 pm

excision wrote:Mine would probably go something like this:
1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Durant
4. Dirk
5. Kobe
6. KG
7. Davis
8. Howard
9. Wade
10. Paul
11. Howard
12. Curry
13. Love
14. Aldridge
15. Griffin
16. Nash
17. Ray Allen
18. Carter
19. Irving
20. Anthony
21. Amare
22. Bosh
23. Parker
24. Westbrook
25. Marion
26. Harden
27. Noah
28. Jefferson
29. Pau Gasol
30. Wall
31. Marc Gasol
32. Cousins
33. Pierce
34. Brand
35. Deng
36. Ellis
37. Jermaine O'neal
38. Elton Brand
39. Rondo
40. Brook Lopez
41. Joe Johnson
42. Hayward
43. Z-bo
44. Deron Williams
45. Klay Thompson
46. Jason Richardson
47. Lewis
48. Jeff Green
49. Tyson Chandler
50. Dragic
51. Drummond
52. Odom
53. Horford
54. Ginobili
55. Horford
56. Ibaka
57. Kenyon Martin
58. Ryan Anderson
59. Iguodala
60. Boozer

This list is assuming that you draft each player young and you knowing/predicting how their careers panned or will pan out. The list would change if you meant one season peak (I would definitely include Rose, lol)

Do you have a job?
I´m a little bit disappointed that I don´t see your top 500 though

ZUDAMAGIC · Post #29 » by **ZUDAMAGIC** » Wed May 7, 2014 2:55 pm

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

He wasn't even a top 5 player that season. He won it because the Bulls were the best team

HIs prime is MVP, because he won MVP.

do you understand this concept?

He was Top 5 and 22 years old.

deneem4 · Post #30 » by **deneem4** » Wed May 7, 2014 3:10 pm

Assuming I have 2 1st rounders
il take
wall
wade
Ariza
cousins
pau

wall
cousins
Wouldn't be in the 1st Rd

Ariza
wouldn't be a Draft pick

Wall/cousins on rookie
wade/pau on max
ariza on a 5mil
Reminds me of kobe Lakers 2.0

toughtrasher · Post #31 » by **toughtrasher** » Wed May 7, 2014 3:23 pm

WVSArtist wrote:1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Lebron James
5. Dirk Nowitski
6. Vince Carter
7. Dwayne Wade
8. Ray Allen
9. Paul Pierce
10. Dwight Howard
11. Carmello Anthony

everyone else in some kind of order.

I'd take a prime Wade over a prime Carter any day

lakersin4 · Post #32 » by **lakersin4** » Wed May 7, 2014 3:53 pm

1. Kobe
2. Duncan
3. KG
4. Lebron
5. Durant
6. Dirk
7. Wade
8. CP3
9. Dwight
10. Nash

dice · Post #33 » by **dice** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:19 pm

Prince187 wrote:How would that draft look ?

1.Duncan
2.LeBron
3.KG
4.Kobe
5.Durant
6.Wade

hard to disagree with these guys at the top, though lebron would be my #1

WVSArtist · Post #34 » by **WVSArtist** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:40 pm

Prince187 wrote:
dunkman04 wrote:I HATE Kobe and anyone who has him lower than 3 is just being ridiculous. Kevin Garnett over Kobe? What?

I would probably have to do:

1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Durant
5. KG
6. Dirk

After that it's kind of a hodgepodge of young guys with untapped potential and more veteran players who are great but have substantial flaws in their resume.

Also, I learned in this thread that Jeff Green is going to have a better career than Ginobli. Get to work Jeff, you have a LONG way to go!

Prime Kobe couldn't do better than an 8 seed. I even think I rated him too high and I underrated Dirk. I'd take Dirk over Kobe.

Yeah that was totally all Kobe's fault. Kobe worked his ass off to get that 8th seed, and would have gotten a higher had his teammates been on par with him or even close.

ropjhk · Post #35 » by **ropjhk** » Wed May 7, 2014 4:55 pm

Probably missing some people.

For 1 year, everybody it their prime (or best we've seen so far):

Lebron
Duncan
Kobe
Garnett
Dirk
Durant
Howard
Paul
VC
Nash
Wade
Aldridge
Amare
Parker
Pierce
Pau
Griffin
Rose
Love
Melo
Davis
Ginobilli
Ray Allen
DWill
Curry
Jermaine O'Neal
Bosh
Westbrook
Kirilenko

Post #36 » by **Froob** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:10 pm

Pierce is getting way way underrated.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #37 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:30 pm

Elton Brand, Vince, and Pierce are easily in my top 10. So many guys slept on..

franktony · Post #38 » by **franktony** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:35 pm

My top 5 would be

1 - Duncan
2 - Lebron
3 - Kobe
4 - Dirk
5 - Durant

Danny11 · Post #39 » by **Danny11** » Wed May 7, 2014 5:59 pm

1. Duncan
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
4. Durant
5. Dirk
6. Garnett
7. Nash
8. Wade
9. Allen
10. Pierce
11. Howard
12. Ginobili
13. Pau
14. CP3
15. Carter

excision · Post #40 » by **excision** » Wed May 7, 2014 6:14 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
excision wrote:Mine would probably go something like this:
1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Durant
4. Dirk
5. Kobe
6. KG
7. Davis
8. Howard
9. Wade
10. Paul
11. Howard
12. Curry
13. Love
14. Aldridge
15. Griffin
16. Nash
17. Ray Allen
18. Carter
19. Irving
20. Anthony
21. Amare
22. Bosh
23. Parker
24. Westbrook
25. Marion
26. Harden
27. Noah
28. Jefferson
29. Pau Gasol
30. Wall
31. Marc Gasol
32. Cousins
33. Pierce
34. Brand
35. Deng
36. Ellis
37. Jermaine O'neal
38. Elton Brand
39. Rondo
40. Brook Lopez
41. Joe Johnson
42. Hayward
43. Z-bo
44. Deron Williams
45. Klay Thompson
46. Jason Richardson
47. Lewis
48. Jeff Green
49. Tyson Chandler
50. Dragic
51. Drummond
52. Odom
53. Horford
54. Ginobili
55. Horford
56. Ibaka
57. Kenyon Martin
58. Ryan Anderson
59. Iguodala
60. Boozer

This list is assuming that you draft each player young and you knowing/predicting how their careers panned or will pan out. The list would change if you meant one season peak (I would definitely include Rose, lol)

Do you have a job?
I´m a little bit disappointed that I don´t see your top 500 though

Nope, I'm in College, but still I took a few minutes to write down that list, so I must be a loser.

You on the other hand, seem like a really sick guy. I wish I was the type of person who acts all tough and confrontational behind the safety of my keyboard for no apparent reason but unfortunately I'm just not that insecure :wink: