'14 Draft Thread - Parker Declares. List your top 4

[crkone]

So Supreme,

You think that if he hits his upside he'd probably be more of a Scottie Pippen (point forward) than someone like Magic or Penny?

I wouldn't mind him playing the 2 or 3 since he has the size. I do like his vision and handle for his height though. I also do think he has a lightning quick first step that is very impressive... and he has all the tools to be a beast on D if he wants to be.

Man, that's tough. All I've really seen is offense, so I'll stick with my more athletic Brandon Roy ceiling. See the similarities?

You could definitely convince me of that comparison, seems pretty fair.

The thing is too that if we do take Exum and he is more of a Roy type of guy as opposed to a pure PG... those guys are enough where you don't need a pure PG. Especially when you have another guy like Giannis who can also handle and distribute at the 3.

For what it's worth if Exum turned out to be a Brandon Roy type of player and Giannis turned out to be a legit above average 'point forward' then I would start to gun for a huge, defensive minded guard who can hit the 3 to play the point... even if that player was more of a shooting guard than a point guard. Then just let Exum and Giannis take care of the ball handling and distributing a majority of the time.

[Newz]

By hit the three I mean make three point shots, not just attempt them.

[ILikeBigBucks]

I think that Brandon knight would be a perfect fit next to exum and giannis. He wouldn't need to be the primary ball handler and we would be able to take advantage of his strengths better. I'd be fine with any of embiid, Wiggins, or exum. Not a fan of parker because of fit and limited potential.

Sent from my HTC One using RealGM Forums mobile app

[emunney]

Welcome to the forum, and nice name.

[White+Purple]

David Lee isn't defensive-minded. Or a guard.

[drew881]

I think that Brandon knight would be a perfect fit next to exum and giannis. He wouldn't need to be the primary ball handler and we would be able to take advantage of his strengths better. I'd be fine with any of embiid, Wiggins, or exum. Not a fan of parker because of fit and limited potential.

Sent from my HTC One using RealGM Forums mobile app

He certainly wouldn't need to be, but based on watching this season, he would certainly want to be. That's my problem with him.

[Newz]

Yeah, when I said that I was thinking someone along the lines of Derrick Fisher when he was with the Lakers. Could play D, could handle the ball enough to get it up the court when they needed him to and always shot in the upper 30's to lower 40's from 3.

That would be ideal if we have a distributor at the 2 and 3.

[crkone]

I think that Brandon knight would be a perfect fit next to exum and giannis. He wouldn't need to be the primary ball handler and we would be able to take advantage of his strengths better. I'd be fine with any of embiid, Wiggins, or exum. Not a fan of parker because of fit and limited potential.

Sent from my HTC One using RealGM Forums mobile app

He certainly wouldn't need to be, but based on watching this season, he would certainly want to be. That's my problem with him.

It all depends on who the next coach is, and who the coach wants to have the ball. Naters is also an option depending on if his shot ever comes back. He did make 15 out of 33 3 pointers during February and March, 10 out of 18 in March.

[cinematographer]

By hit the three I mean make three point shots, not just attempt them.

Knight shot 39.1% from deep when playing off the ball next to Wolters, and his catch-and-shoot numbers support the idea he's capable from outside.

[cinematographer]

I think that Brandon knight would be a perfect fit next to exum and giannis. He wouldn't need to be the primary ball handler and we would be able to take advantage of his strengths better. I'd be fine with any of embiid, Wiggins, or exum. Not a fan of parker because of fit and limited potential.

Sent from my HTC One using RealGM Forums mobile app

I like ILikeBigBucks and I cannot lie

[M-C-G]

He doesn't have the tightest handle, but he can certainly dribble with both hands.

Yes compared to me, that is certainly true, but compared to the average NBA PG, that doesn't seem to be true based on the clips posted here.

Again, I know this stuff could be old, but that is just part of the mystery with Exum.

I agree to the points however, that with Giannis and Knight, you have enough ball handling that you don't need a traditional PG.

I know it sounds like I am against Exum, but I really am not, I just want to see more to formulate an opinion. So ecstatic to be adding any of these 4 guys, as long as we don't do something dumb like pass on any of the big 4, next season is going to be great.

[M-C-G]

So Supreme,

You think that if he hits his upside he'd probably be more of a Scottie Pippen (point forward) than someone like Magic or Penny?

I wouldn't mind him playing the 2 or 3 since he has the size. I do like his vision and handle for his height though. I also do think he has a lightning quick first step that is very impressive... and he has all the tools to be a beast on D if he wants to be.

Man, that's tough. All I've really seen is offense, so I'll stick with my more athletic Brandon Roy ceiling. See the similarities?

I really like that comp based on the clips.

[machu46]

If MCW is a good enough ball-handler to be an above average PG in the NBA, I think Exum will be fine.

Regardless, as other posters have said, I think he and Giannis are the perfect perimeter guys to go with Brandon Knight. If they can convince Knight to be more of an off-ball kinda guy, a 3 headed perimeter attack with those guys could be dangerous.

I've maintained from the beginning that Exum is my #3 prospect (just slightly ahead of Jabari), and that he's #2 if Embiid's back doesn't check out.

[ChuckBros4Life]

I definitely agree that Roy is the best comparison I've heard so far regarding Exum. I just watched a 13 minute video of Roy's offensive career highlights and his footwork and knowledge of offensive spacing and positioning is incredibly impressive. The dude knew exactly the position he needed to get himself into to get a high percentage shot. He made defenders look foolish.

I already see some of this in Exum's game and experience in the league will improve that. Whether or not this means he isn't a point guard, idk. He's definitely a primary ball handler and that's really all that needs to be said in a league where positions are becoming relatively arbitrary.

[SupremeHustle]

I definitely agree that Roy is the best comparison I've heard so far regarding Exum. I just watched a 13 minute video of Roy's offensive career highlights and his footwork and knowledge of offensive spacing and positioning is incredibly impressive. The dude knew exactly the position he needed to get himself into to get a high percentage shot. He made defenders look foolish.

I already see some of this in Exum's game and experience in the league will improve that. Whether or not this means he isn't a point guard, idk. He's definitely a primary ball handler and that's really all that needs to be said in a league where positions are becoming relatively arbitrary.

I'd probably subscribe to your newsletter based off the quoted post.

[White+Purple]

He's definitely a primary ball handler and that's really all that needs to be said in a league where positions are becoming relatively arbitrary.

I don't see 'primary ball handler' at all. Could be, sure. But I don't see someone who needs to have the ball in his hands.

[mattg]

He's definitely a primary ball handler and that's really all that needs to be said in a league where positions are becoming relatively arbitrary.

I don't see 'primary ball handler' at all. Could be, sure. But I don't see someone who needs to have the ball in his hands.

Exum definitely doesn't need the ball, he's very capable playing off. But like you said, he's got the ability to operate with the ball in his hands. He's versatile. It's why I don't get why people get hung up on if exum is a PG or not, to me that is irrelevant. He is 6'6", if he can play PG full time, great. If not then he's got great size at SG.

[Baddy Chuck]

I think one of the most important things a point guard (or at least primary ball handler) does is set the tempo of the game. From what I've seen Exum does that perfectly. He knows when to attack, when to slow it down, when his team needs him to make a play or when he needs to defer to teammates. Where I don't think he'll be pushing 10 assists a night, I think he does all the things you want a point guard to do, and it's those things that separate scoring point guards to the guys who are shooting guards playing point guard.

[mattg]

I think one of the most important thing a point guard (or at least primary ball handler) does is set the tempo of the game. From what I've seen Exum does that perfectly. He knows when to attack, when to slow it down, when his team needs him to make a play or when he needs to defer to teammates. Where I don't think he'll be pushing 10 assists a night, I think he does all the things you want a point guard to do, and it's those things that separate scoring point guards to the guys who are shooting guards playing point guard.

Controlling tempo and pace is the single most important thing a PG can do, and it's what makes balancing scoring a lot and running the offense so tough for most guards. It's why I prefer having a wing as the best playmaker/creator and then a PG that can play the Derek fisher role. Just let the PG play a smaller role, controlling pace, playing defense, knocking down 3s and playing opportunistic offense.

Fwiw, I think mike Conley has turned into the best pace controlling PG in the nba for a guy who has to balance as much as he has to. His mix of passing and scoring is phenomenal and he doesn't play in modes at all.

[Baddy Chuck]

Just let the PG play a smaller role, controlling pace, playing defense, knocking down 3s and playing opportunistic offense.

Which is why I think people saying Knight could be our 3+D guard are nuts. He may be up there with the worst ones like Brandon Jennings. He can't set the pace. He doesn't even know what pace is. 1 on 3 fastbreak? You best believe he's running up someones chest and flailing for a foul. 22 seconds on the shot clock? At 21 seconds that ball is flying to the rim from the three point line. Sure he's got the tools, but it would take a MAJOR change to his mindset to play that role.

But yeah I do agree that a great wing is pretty important. I think the level that wing needs to be to offset a great point guard is pretty high though.