The Trade Thread

[BadMofoPimp]

Why would Brooklyn trade their best player who is also considered their Franchise player for Smith/Jennings?

Is this a joke? If so, hahahaha.

You need an update on Deron.

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Again, I would be all for it, but I doubt there is a chance in hell the Nets owner would make this trade. It is not a wise business decision. Regardless, if fans feel that way, they would hate Jennings and Josh Smith even more. They may hate on DWil, but would go "Eeeeewwwwww" and start gagging when proposed Jennings and Josh Smith with their longer contracts.

I think DWill would be better suited in a trade involving Houston who could offer Chandler Parsons and Lin's Expiring or Beverly. Both teams would be up for that deal in addition, DWill and Howard have publicly stated they would like to play with each other while Houston has cap room.

This Jennings/Smith for DWil just doesn't make business sense to me for the Nets but only the Pistons. Nets are not going to take back longer contracts.

[jakebernat]

where do you keep getting that smennings' deals are longer? d-will's contract is the same length as smith's. jennings' is a year shorter.

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[MotownMadness]

Why would Brooklyn trade their best player who is also considered their Franchise player for Smith/Jennings?

Is this a joke? If so, hahahaha.

You need an update on Deron.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1318569

Again, I would be all for it, but I doubt there is a chance in hell the Nets owner would make this trade. It is not a wise business decision. Regardless, if fans feel that way, they would hate Jennings and Josh Smith even more. They may hate on DWil, but would go "Eeeeewwwwww" and start gagging when proposed Jennings and Josh Smith with their longer contracts.

I think DWill would be better suited in a trade involving Houston who could offer Chandler Parsons and Lin's Expiring or Beverly. Both teams would be up for that deal in addition, DWill and Howard have publicly stated they would like to play with each other while Houston has cap room.

This Jennings/Smith for DWil just doesn't make business sense to me for the Nets but only the Pistons. Nets are not going to take back longer contracts.

Not a chance Houston would trade Parsons for DWill. Nobody will really want to pay DWill 20 mil a year but us if they would take these two off our hands.

[BadMofoPimp]

where do you keep getting that smennings' deals are longer? d-will's contract is the same length as smith's. jennings' is a year shorter.

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My bad. I could of swore Williams signed that deal 2 seasons ago. I didn't know there are 6 year deals out there. Damn, that sure is a very bad contract and DWill sure does get worked over in games by opposing teams way too often while he spends much time injured every season.

I think I would rather risk waiting out Jennings and Smith contract than take on Deron Williams.

[paQo the BAWSER]

D. Williams is an obvious improvement from Jennings, but even Monroe or Smith has got more value right now than D-Will. Anyway, he was the best PG in the league putting the Lakers against the wall.

[jakebernat]

I think we'd honestly be a much better fit for d-will. he'd have a couple of good floor-spacing wings in singler and KCP, a P&R monster and potential defensive anchor in drummond, and a true low post threat in monroe who can also facilitate from the high-post, adding to the team's potential versatility.

williams would have much more freedom offensively for our team which would at least allow him to somewhat play up to his deal.

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[Blkbrd671]

I think we'd honestly be a much better fit for d-will. he'd have a couple of good floor-spacing wings in singler and KCP, a P&R monster and potential defensive anchor in drummond, and a true low post threat in monroe who can also facilitate from the high-post, adding to the team's potential versatility.

williams would have much more freedom offensively for our team which would at least allow him to somewhat play up to his deal.

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Defensively Deron Williams is a slight upgrade over Jennings, and we'd pay a player who has health concerns a lot of money.

[MotownMadness]

I think we'd honestly be a much better fit for d-will. he'd have a couple of good floor-spacing wings in singler and KCP, a P&R monster and potential defensive anchor in drummond, and a true low post threat in monroe who can also facilitate from the high-post, adding to the team's potential versatility.

williams would have much more freedom offensively for our team which would at least allow him to somewhat play up to his deal.

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Defensively Deron Williams is a slight upgrade over Jennings, and we'd pay a player who has health concerns a lot of money.

So you think Jennings and Smith fit better than DWill?

[Pharaoh]

I'd take DWill over Smith & Jennings.

At the very least he can run the offense. Maybe the last few seasons have humbled him and he'd be willing to be the "veteran leader" we need?

That said I don't think dumping Smith abd Jennings for anything is addition by subtraction. People need to realise that we've basically gone 5 years without good coaching! Get a good coach and I believe many of our problems go away...

Very few people arrive at work hoping to do a poor job. The same is true of NBA players.

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[Blkbrd671]

I think we'd honestly be a much better fit for d-will. he'd have a couple of good floor-spacing wings in singler and KCP, a P&R monster and potential defensive anchor in drummond, and a true low post threat in monroe who can also facilitate from the high-post, adding to the team's potential versatility.

williams would have much more freedom offensively for our team which would at least allow him to somewhat play up to his deal.

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Defensively Deron Williams is a slight upgrade over Jennings, and we'd pay a player who has health concerns a lot of money.

So you think Jennings and Smith fit better than DWill?

i think Trading away 2 players who can still help this team for 1 player who struggles to stay healthy is a poor decision. However a healthy deron williams makes this team legit. a unhealthy deron williams is a 25 million dollar bench warmer. Draft Smart to develop behind him, sign a SF. high risk high reward. i would hope this is a last resort of sorts

[MotownMadness]

Defensively Deron Williams is a slight upgrade over Jennings, and we'd pay a player who has health concerns a lot of money.

So you think Jennings and Smith fit better than DWill?

i think Trading away 2 players who can still help this team for 1 player who struggles to stay healthy is a poor decision. However a healthy deron williams makes this team legit. a unhealthy deron williams is a 25 million dollar bench warmer. Draft Smart to develop behind him, sign a SF. high risk high reward. i would hope this is a last resort of sorts

I disagree, one player not doing anything is better than two bad players trying to do way too much. Jennings is the worst defensive PG and a huge chucker at the point. No team needs a player like that. Smith is not just a low BBIQ player but I think there's really something wrong in his head. Again no team needs a guy like that and nobody certainly needs two players like that on the same team.

[Blkbrd671]

So you think Jennings and Smith fit better than DWill?

i think Trading away 2 players who can still help this team for 1 player who struggles to stay healthy is a poor decision. However a healthy deron williams makes this team legit. a unhealthy deron williams is a 25 million dollar bench warmer. Draft Smart to develop behind him, sign a SF. high risk high reward. i would hope this is a last resort of sorts

I disagree, one player not doing anything is better than two bad players trying to do way too much. Jennings is the worst defensive PG and a huge chucker at the point. No team needs a player like that. Smith is not just a low BBIQ player but I think there's really something wrong in his head. Again no team needs a guy like that and nobody certainly needs two players like that on the same team.

Then wtf would brooklyn do this?

i understand your hatred of the 2. But both these players are not worthless.

[MotownMadness]

i think Trading away 2 players who can still help this team for 1 player who struggles to stay healthy is a poor decision. However a healthy deron williams makes this team legit. a unhealthy deron williams is a 25 million dollar bench warmer. Draft Smart to develop behind him, sign a SF. high risk high reward. i would hope this is a last resort of sorts

I disagree, one player not doing anything is better than two bad players trying to do way too much. Jennings is the worst defensive PG and a huge chucker at the point. No team needs a player like that. Smith is not just a low BBIQ player but I think there's really something wrong in his head. Again no team needs a guy like that and nobody certainly needs two players like that on the same team.

Then wtf would brooklyn do this?

I feel like Brooklyn would be the one team that may consider. Jennings replacing Williams would suck but they need a little bit of youth and Smiths athleticism. Theyre payroll is so high that they have no choice but to try and contend. I did say Smith is someone that nobody would want which contradicted myself. But they have no frontcourt and owner who cares nothing about his payroll.

[Blkbrd671]

I disagree, one player not doing anything is better than two bad players trying to do way too much. Jennings is the worst defensive PG and a huge chucker at the point. No team needs a player like that. Smith is not just a low BBIQ player but I think there's really something wrong in his head. Again no team needs a guy like that and nobody certainly needs two players like that on the same team.

Then wtf would brooklyn do this?

I feel like Brooklyn would be the one team that may consider. Jennings replacing Williams would suck but they need a little bit of youth and Smiths athleticism. Theyre payroll is so high that they have no choice but to try and contend. I did say Smith is someone that nobody would want which contradicted myself. But they have no frontcourt and owner who cares nothing about his payroll.

They aren't trading Williams and downgrade in overall talent for youth without incentive, and it be hard to argue Smith as incentive after the stance you've taken. If this trade went down, i wouldn't be angry, but again it would depend on what else we looked at in terms of trades

[jakebernat]

both situations feature players with unfavorable contracts. i'm suggesting that swapping those bad deals would be mutually beneficial.

[Redeemed]

Then wtf would brooklyn do this?

I feel like Brooklyn would be the one team that may consider. Jennings replacing Williams would suck but they need a little bit of youth and Smiths athleticism. Theyre payroll is so high that they have no choice but to try and contend. I did say Smith is someone that nobody would want which contradicted myself. But they have no frontcourt and owner who cares nothing about his payroll.

They aren't trading Williams and downgrade in overall talent for youth without incentive, and it be hard to argue Smith as incentive after the stance you've taken. If this trade went down, i wouldn't be angry, but again it would depend on what else we looked at in terms of trades

Williams value is dropping rapidly. The guy is still getting injections in his ankles to stay on the floor. He's going to be done before the end of his contract, so it may do them well to get out from under it. Could the answer be Jennings? Well that depends on the size of their ego. Does the franchise believe JKidd can coach Jennings up to the elite status? I wouldn't be surprised to see them take the bait.

Taking the cheaper pg would allow them flexibility to rebuild, because they aren't winning anything with their big ticket geriatric squad.

[paQo the BAWSER]

I'd prefer Tyreke Evans as PG before Deron.

[jakebernat]

not that this matters too much, but don't we have some of the best trainers/strength & conditioning coaches in the league? they could work on deron and get him back to playing full seasons at full strength. that's probably wishful thinking, but i'd like to believe that he'd be in a much better position playing for the pistons both on and off the court.

[BadMofoPimp]

I'd prefer Tyreke Evans as PG before Deron.

In that case, might as well resign Stuckey and move him to starting PG.

[paQo the BAWSER]

I'd prefer Tyreke Evans as PG before Deron.

In that case, might as well resign Stuckey and move him to starting PG.

Tyreke has got so much better handles than Stuckey, and he's better passer too.