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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#801 » by DCZards » Wed May 7, 2014 7:48 pm

Ruzious wrote:Why does Swami hate Beal so much?


I don't think Swami hates Beal...but he is crazy if he thinks Indy is going to foul Beal in late game situations just because he missed 3 free throws in a row. The kid is shooting 90% from the line during the playoffs and he's been clutch all season. I hope Indy is stupid enough to intentionally foul him.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#802 » by dobrojim » Wed May 7, 2014 9:00 pm

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blessofcurse wrote:Im a big fan of Wall but in the next 3-5 yrs do you think guys Beal will be better than Wall?


Two different players.

Again I ask, why not enjoy having both guys on this team instead of always trying to compare the two? It's like we can't have nice things.


This is a deeply rooted flaw in American culture as it relates to team sports. America has long celebrated "rugged individualism" as a trait in our heroes, and we apply that celebration to team sports -- the entire point of which is the performance of the whole as opposed to the individual.

Asking who is better between Wall and Beal is like asking whether arms or legs are more important for swimming. No matter what your answer is, you obviously need them both.

I have always been annoyed by individual awards -- and the media's fixation on and celebration of them -- in team sports. They are completely and utterly besides the point. The point is simple -- win games, as a team. Standings and championships tell us very clearly who performed best and who did not.

That, by the way, is the allure and the joy of this Wizards teams. Barkley pointed out how they had 4 different leading scorers in their first round wins and how unheard of that is in this day and age. Read about the early 70's Knicks or the championship Blazers, or the Russell-era Celtics to understand who high-functioning teams can triumph over great individual players. Hell, just look at the Mavs title over the Lebron Heat to see a recent example. And then read about how those great TEAMS connected with their fanbases in an atypical, almost mystical way.

TEAM!

Go Wiz.


I would say baseball is different. Yes the collective talent adds up to make a given
team what it is, but there is very little teamwork in the essential pitching and hitting
matchups that make up a baseball game. Basketball and football are totally different in
that regard. Your teammates are of little value if you're a pitcher or a hitter trying to
make a play. And while fielders do help pitchers create outs, they more often than not
do it individually.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#803 » by dobrojim » Wed May 7, 2014 9:09 pm

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Ruzious wrote:The air-balled FT was his 3rd straight missed FT. I thought Chris Weber explained it well - he'd never performed in front of a crowd like - and to have all eyes on him was a bit daunting. Actually Swami explained it pretty well, too. He got it out of his system, and he'll be just fine mentally. Beal's play has stepped up.


Again, I think you guys--like Webber--are reading more into it than was there.


I thought CWebb was really awful as an analyst in game one. He's got to be smarter
than that string of nearly nonstop inane comments that he was spewing forth
would indicate.

I hope we're not stuck with him all series.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#804 » by Illmatic12 » Wed May 7, 2014 9:58 pm

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DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:The air-balled FT was his 3rd straight missed FT. I thought Chris Weber explained it well - he'd never performed in front of a crowd like - and to have all eyes on him was a bit daunting. Actually Swami explained it pretty well, too. He got it out of his system, and he'll be just fine mentally. Beal's play has stepped up.


Again, I think you guys--like Webber--are reading more into it than was there.


I thought CWebb was really awful as an analyst in game one. He's got to be smarter
than that string of nearly nonstop inane comments that he was spewing forth
would indicate.

I hope we're not stuck with him all series.

I was shocked how bad Webber was.

I was watching NBATV prior to the game and they had Webber reporting.. the guy looked spaced out, he was talking in this really weird low voice, Brent Barry in the studio even made a comment about it. So maybe he was really tired or hungover or something, because he normally isn't that terrible.

I'm pretty sure he called the Pacers 'The Bulls" multiple times
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#805 » by dobrojim » Thu May 8, 2014 2:37 am

probably blazed
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#806 » by nate33 » Thu May 8, 2014 11:31 am

After 7 playoff games, Beal is averaging 20, 5 and 5 with a TS% of .567 in low-scoring games while being defended by three of the top 5 perimeter defenders in the NBA (Butler, Stevenson and Paul George)
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Post#807 » by Severn Hoos » Thu May 8, 2014 12:43 pm

So you're saying that Playoff Beal = Regular Season Harden, and Playoff Harden = Regular Season Beal?

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#808 » by tontoz » Thu May 8, 2014 1:04 pm

Nice to see Beal stepping up his game, especially considering the calibur of defense he is facing.

I do think that they are giving him too much responsibility at times as far as ball handling.
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Post#809 » by Higga » Thu May 8, 2014 1:57 pm

My only issue with Beal is his FT shooting. There is no way he shouldn't be an absolute lockdown money FT shooter. But he always seems to miss at least 1 of 2. That's inexcusable.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#810 » by Nivek » Thu May 8, 2014 2:05 pm

Higga wrote:My only issue with Beal is his FT shooting. There is no way he shouldn't be an absolute lockdown money FT shooter. But he always seems to miss at least 1 of 2. That's inexcusable.


Beal's FT%:

- 2012-13 -- .786
- 2013-14 -- .788
- playoffs -- .811
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#811 » by Illmatic12 » Thu May 8, 2014 2:23 pm

Horncats fans hating on Beal :lol:

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They're trying so hard to rationalize the fact that they passed over Beal/Lillard/Drummond for this guy:

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Post#812 » by tontoz » Thu May 8, 2014 3:24 pm

^^ Wow that is so ugly.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#813 » by fishercob » Fri May 16, 2014 1:17 pm

Last night sucked, but we'll always have this.

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#814 » by nate33 » Fri May 16, 2014 1:43 pm

fishercob wrote:Last night sucked, but we'll always have this.


Yup. That was the best play of the game.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#815 » by DCZards » Fri May 16, 2014 1:55 pm

Did you guys see the tears in Beal's eyes at the end of the game? I LOVE that kid!
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#816 » by tontoz » Fri May 16, 2014 2:57 pm

Beal's play was certainly the highlight of the playoffs for me. He didn't shy away from the big stage.

Last night me may have been a bit overly aggressive but i think he sensed that he had to come up big in order to win the game.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#817 » by dandridge 10 » Fri May 16, 2014 7:07 pm

tontoz wrote:Beal's play was certainly the highlight of the playoffs for me. He didn't shy away from the big stage.

Last night me may have been a bit overly aggressive but i think he sensed that he had to come up big in order to win the game.


Agree. The thing I like the most about Beal is the kid has some marbles and he is only 20 years old. I think we will be hearing "dagger" in conjunction with his name for many years.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#818 » by dckingsfan » Fri May 16, 2014 10:57 pm

So, lots and lots and lots have said next year is the year he takes the huge jump.

Question: Does it start right out of the gate or does it slowly build through the playoffs?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#819 » by Illmatic12 » Fri May 16, 2014 11:16 pm

Don't think he will take a huge jump next year. Still too young. Someone posted on GB that SGs usually take a jump in their 4th-5th seasons.. Harden and Derozan being recent examples

I just want Beal to shoot a decent % next year and get to the line more, and hopefully continue improving ball handling and PnR. But I think his improvements will be incremental next season
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#820 » by Knighthonor » Sat May 17, 2014 11:14 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Don't think he will take a huge jump next year. Still too young. Someone posted on GB that SGs usually take a jump in their 4th-5th seasons.. Harden and Derozan being recent examples

I just want Beal to shoot a decent % next year and get to the line more, and hopefully continue improving ball handling and PnR. But I think his improvements will be incremental next season

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