Bears select Ka'Deem Carey, RB 4th round #117 overall

[kozelkid]

Frank Gore was 4.65... Just saying

Great comparison.

[fleet]

Frank Gore was 4.65... Just saying

So is Carey... Just saying

Carey compares his running style to 49ers back Frank Gore, and will be a backup behind 28-year-old veteran Matt Forte.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/ ... b2370.html

we will trust in Emery, and in his rebound from his first draft. What Carey projects to allow the Bears to do, is to run their system the way they like. I see a need for speed injection though in the offense. At some point, they need a slot receiver and a burner. A young receiver with speed is needed.

[Sonny_D1]

This guy is tough as nails, excellent receiver and solid blocker. He's a 3 down back. Always seems to fall forward, ala Gio Bernard. He plays much faster in pads than his combine time would show. Very good vision as well.

Solid successor to Forte.

This appears to be a roster guy with limited upside. He isn't a starter if you can help it imo. Definately not a standout starter that beats other teams. He may fill a hole when the stud is injured, and/or plays special teams. Maybe he can beat out Ford.

I think you have him pegged completely wrong. He's like Ahmad Bradshaw with better vision and better speed in pads. Bradshaw is a vastly underrated RB and if it weren't for the constant foot problems, would have went on to have a fantastic career. Even so, he was still a very good RB.

[Chitownbulls]

Good pick...guy runs hard an can catch from the backfield.

[fleet]

This guy is tough as nails, excellent receiver and solid blocker. He's a 3 down back. Always seems to fall forward, ala Gio Bernard. He plays much faster in pads than his combine time would show. Very good vision as well.

Solid successor to Forte.

This appears to be a roster guy with limited upside. He isn't a starter if you can help it imo. Definately not a standout starter that beats other teams. He may fill a hole when the stud is injured, and/or plays special teams. Maybe he can beat out Ford.

I think you have him pegged completely wrong. He's like Ahmad Bradshaw with better vision and better speed in pads. Bradshaw is a vastly underrated RB and if it weren't for the constant foot problems, would have went on to have a fantastic career. Even so, he was still a very good RB.

Hey its not just me raising questions:

Ka'Deem Carey has great tape, but the 4.7 40 time puts him in a category of RBs that rarely offer much. Hopefully the Bears get the tape version, but the fourth round is pretty rich.

Questionable move: I really liked their draft, but I'll be nitpicky and say it's taking runner Ka'Deem Carey in the fourth round. He isn't very fast.

I'm not pegging him yet until I see him play in the NFL. I'm being superficial. He has some people who like him, so maybe. I saw ASU and Arizona for about 15 minutes. Don't believe he made any impression on me whatsoever. There was some guy on the score talking about his upside as a backup RB, so...bout it. Along with his 40 time, which makes me worried that NFL linebackers will chase him down before he can turn a corner. Basically we have a smaller guy who is relatively slow, and he isn't particularly shifty on tape. People describe him as a punishing runner through contact. At his size in the NFL, how effective can that style be? How long can he last? Just questions, no pegging.

Anyway, you can't call him successor to Forte yet. I was a little disappointed when I saw some other backs with speed come off the board after him, and the Bears could use some speed. I'm going to wait and see. He could be fine. Trust in Emery. Emery took his mulligan on his first draft.

[Chi town]

I like the Gore and Bradshaw comparisons. I see the similarities on tape.

[fleet]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014 ... n-speed-cm

In a recent phone conversation, Magee discussed Carey’s tenacious running style and the pass protection ability Trestman demands from his running backs.

The full Q&A:

Q: What type of player are the Bears getting in Ka’Deem?

CM: “A complete, most competitive I’ve ever coached, ever been around. He comes to practice every day, and he practices like it’s games. Every rep he takes in practice is like it’s a game rep. He is the hardest working kid I’ve ever been around.”

Q: Why is he so hard to tackle?

CM: “First of all, he runs with a passion. He runs hungry. He runs like he’s angry. He don’t like being tackled. (Laughs) He’s a studier of the game. He understands angles, and he uses that. His preparation is just top notch.”

Q: What does he do to prepare?

CM: “He studies film. He actually studies opponents. He studies tendencies on (defensive) tackles. His is practice time, mostly, other than the film study. He practiced like it’s games, so when it is games, it’s nothing different for him. He works at it. That’s the one thing I’ll say about the kid that’s probably his biggest trait—he lives for football.”

Q: Why has he had such success protecting the football?

CM: “For as many carries as we had, he barely put it on the ground. He keeps the ball high and tight in traffic. He works at it during drills, even when we’re just in shorts. He’s always maintaining a high and tight ball security thing, and he’s conscious of it. It hurts him—the few times he did put it on the ground, it was like the end of the world for him. I mean, he felt like he let himself and the team down. So it’s just something he has worked on and cares deeply about.”

Q: What type of patience and vision was required out of him in your type of offense?

CM: “I would always talk to him about, ‘On the next level, you’re not going to be able to freelance. So he understood that he had to be disciplined with them to run schemes. He had some zone reads, and the normal reads backs make. But he definitely had reads that he had to make, and he had to understand linemen blocking and angles, and he did a great job of that.”

Q: I know he doesn’t have a reputation for being a home-run hitter, but that he’s more of a back that will exploit what’s there and then gain yards after contact. What type of speed work did you guys do with him?

CM: “We did the normal speed work. I won’t get too deep into that…but I will say this: 40-yard dash, I mean, Ka’Deem is a football player. He runs as fast as he needs to. I would be more concerned about Ka’Deem’s football speed than his speed work because he’s a football player.”



Q: So he plays faster than he times?

CM: “There’s no question he plays faster than he times. He has the uncanny ability to get people to get people off balance, which allows him to be faster.”

Q: How does he get guys off balance?

CM: “He has good, tight quickness without wasted motion. He’s a no-nonsense runner. That’s the way I like to put it. He’s a no-nonsense runner with no wasted motion.”

Q: What about his ability as a pass blocker?

CM: “Ka’Deem is a very good pass blocker. He understands the schemes of blitz pick-up. This is not a negative, but he would try to hurt you. He’s a very physical kid that’s going to have to tighten up those techniques. But he is a willing blocker who is definitely going to stick is face in there.”

Q: When you say tighten it up, what do you mean? Staying balanced, not lunging, things like that?

CM: “He’s not a lunger. He’s going to put his face in there. What I mean by tightening it up is simply he’s going to the NFL. Everybody who goes to the NFL has to tighten things up.”

Q: Is there any area in which you saw him develop or evolve toward the end of his career?

CM: “Basically, what he became to be—a no-nonsense runner. Not look for things that are not there. In my mind, he’s a tireless ready-to-go guy who just needs to understand the NFL game and the NFL playbook, and he won’t have a problem doing that. I think it’s going to be very exciting for him to learn from Matt Forte, who’s already been fabulous and proven.”

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

This guy is tough as nails, excellent receiver and solid blocker. He's a 3 down back. Always seems to fall forward, ala Gio Bernard. He plays much faster in pads than his combine time would show. Very good vision as well.

Solid successor to Forte.

I agree.

And people put way too much stock into 40 times. Terrell Davis ran a 4.7 40 and was drafted in the 6th round I believe. He turned out ok.

Just because you run a 4.7 doesn't mean you can't break a big run. It's not a sprint from one end to the other, it's an obstacle course and this guy proved he's good at it.

[fleet]

if TD ran a 4.7 thats very impressive as far as being able to have such an amazing career. Outlier yes, but encouraging. What was impressive as well about those Denver teams was they seemed to be able to plug any 'back into that system though and have success. Hey maybe Trestman is that good.

[kozelkid]

if TD ran a 4.7 thats very impressive as far as being able to have such an amazing career. Outlier yes, but encouraging. What was impressive as well about those Denver teams was they seemed to be able to plug any 'back into that system though and have success. Hey maybe Trestman is that good.

Zone scheme/WCO that Shanahan has done on a number of occasions (Morris is another example). The only sad thing about it is that he would literally run those RBs to the ground and most of the time they wouldn't make it past their rookie contract.

Kubiak followed it up as you can see with Foster and even Tate down in Houston and Trestman/Kromer follow a similar philosophy. Long story short, I think Ka'Deem will be quite successful and could have a few 1000 yard rushing seasons once Forte is done.

[The 6ft Hurdle]

All I remember of this guy is that he ran all over the UCLA defense this past year, though he did have a key fumble in the end zone. But he didn't do much the year before when on the road against us. Slow 40 times and up and down performances, I still think he can be a decent back.