PG: Kidd Forgets How To Coach

[KobeKenobi]

Theres a reason Lebron is the best player in the league if he wants can score 50 at will whether you double him or not

What a stupid way of looking at it. This was the most Lebron had ever scored in a playoff game, except once. So no he can't score 50 at will.

Our defense allowed him to score 50.

Did you watch the game? LeBron had a lot of outside shots contested in his face going in, a lot of touch fouls called on him, not to mention he was a straight BEAST, sometimes even when we doubled him he still found a way to score.

If any player in this league can put up a performance like that it's LeBron, and that wasn't the reason why we lost the game.

They just didn't flood the paint enough. Lebron wouldn't be able to have a 50 point game against the Pacers for example in a playoff game because they have more length. Of course they have Paul George to see to that, but still, if the Nets clogged the paint they would of had a better chance. They needed to double and trap to get the ball out of his hands. They failed to do that.

[halfHAVOC]

why are we so ass at free throw shooting?

[exculpatory]

I disagree about the JJ part though, no reason to go iso mode with the game tied, we needed to work the ball like miami did on that crucial bosh 3.

I agree there were probably better options. but im also not going to kill kidd for giving the ball to arguably the most clutch player in the league the past 2 seasons even if it is with lebron on him. i cant live with losing knowing my best player had the ball in his hands.

our offense was pathetically ugly, im nto sure id have wanted to rely on a dwill pick and roll or a garnett high post touch into a pin down either.

Meh, but that's why you have Pierce. He had Ray Allen on him. If we're going to ISO down the stretch, whose number would you rather call...Johnson vs LeBron, or Pierce vs Allen? To me, it's a no-brainer. When the game was tied, Johnson went into a meaningless post up against LeBron that was going nowhere, and he ended up bricking a tough shot. Should have gone with Pierce in that situation.

And then the next play with us down 3 was him trying to take LeBron off the dribble from the 3pt line (LOL), instead of again feeding the mismatch with Allen on Pierce. That's the whole point of having two dangerous scorers like that...when one guy is being locked down by their best defender, the other guy has a mismatch. We didn't use the mismatch...instead, we played right into their hands. Miami WANTED Johnson to ISO against LeBron.

And that's why I have to blame Kidd. What kind of playcalling is that? We were having success all night because we were moving the ball and getting good looks. Why abandon that and go into ISO Joe mode when he's being defended by the best perimeter defender in the game? And why not call an ISO for Pierce instead if that's your gameplan?

PERFECTLY SAID.

Even I could not have written this better.

Kidd was a **** jizzwhistle.

[MrDollarBills]

lol yea once. How do you think Lebron got 49 points?

Did you not see some of the hail mary 3s Lebron took? I'd say a third of his FGM was a jumpshot with a hand right in his face. Nothing you can do about those, he was just hot that game. Best we could do was limit the rest of the team, which we did and hope Lebron cools down, which he didn't

id rather lebron have 49 points and 2 assists with no other player topping 15 points then for lebron to have 30/9/8 and have wade, bosh, and allen all get there points as well. evne with 49 points we were right there at the end of the game. and lebron hit a ton of tough shots.

Wade and bosh did next to nothing outside of the late bosh 3 (when we DID double lebron), and combined for 2 free throws.

ill take the strategy of let lebron get his and shut everyone else down every time

The defensive strategy was sound, it was the offensive execution and play calling down the stretch that ended us.

[thefloydian]

I disagree about the JJ part though, no reason to go iso mode with the game tied, we needed to work the ball like miami did on that crucial bosh 3.

I agree there were probably better options. but im also not going to kill kidd for giving the ball to arguably the most clutch player in the league the past 2 seasons even if it is with lebron on him. i cant live with losing knowing my best player had the ball in his hands.

our offense was pathetically ugly, im nto sure id have wanted to rely on a dwill pick and roll or a garnett high post touch into a pin down either.

Meh, but that's why you have Pierce. He had Ray Allen on him. If we're going to ISO down the stretch, whose number would you rather call...Johnson vs LeBron, or Pierce vs Allen? To me, it's a no-brainer. When the game was tied, Johnson went into a meaningless post up against LeBron that was going nowhere, and he ended up bricking a tough shot. Should have gone with Pierce in that situation.

And then the next play with us down 3 was him trying to take LeBron off the dribble from the 3pt line (LOL), instead of again feeding the mismatch with Allen on Pierce. That's the whole point of having two dangerous scorers like that...when one guy is being locked down by their best defender, the other guy has a mismatch. We didn't use the mismatch...instead, we played right into their hands. Miami WANTED Johnson to ISO against LeBron.

And that's why I have to blame Kidd. What kind of playcalling is that? We were having success all night because we were moving the ball and getting good looks. Why abandon that and go into ISO Joe mode when he's being defended by the best perimeter defender in the game? And why not call an ISO for Pierce instead if that's your gameplan?

I used to watch a ton of Hawks games when I lived in Atlanta, and I don't know if you guys realize this yet, but Joe Johnson is the last person on earth you want to run an ISO for. I don't care who's guarding him. I saw like 3 seasons worth of JJ ISO's because that was Mike Woodson's only offensive strategy. Terrible. Just terrible.

[jeff1624]

I agree there were probably better options. but im also not going to kill kidd for giving the ball to arguably the most clutch player in the league the past 2 seasons even if it is with lebron on him. i cant live with losing knowing my best player had the ball in his hands.

our offense was pathetically ugly, im nto sure id have wanted to rely on a dwill pick and roll or a garnett high post touch into a pin down either.

Meh, but that's why you have Pierce. He had Ray Allen on him. If we're going to ISO down the stretch, whose number would you rather call...Johnson vs LeBron, or Pierce vs Allen? To me, it's a no-brainer. When the game was tied, Johnson went into a meaningless post up against LeBron that was going nowhere, and he ended up bricking a tough shot. Should have gone with Pierce in that situation.

And then the next play with us down 3 was him trying to take LeBron off the dribble from the 3pt line (LOL), instead of again feeding the mismatch with Allen on Pierce. That's the whole point of having two dangerous scorers like that...when one guy is being locked down by their best defender, the other guy has a mismatch. We didn't use the mismatch...instead, we played right into their hands. Miami WANTED Johnson to ISO against LeBron.

And that's why I have to blame Kidd. What kind of playcalling is that? We were having success all night because we were moving the ball and getting good looks. Why abandon that and go into ISO Joe mode when he's being defended by the best perimeter defender in the game? And why not call an ISO for Pierce instead if that's your gameplan?

I used to watch a ton of Hawks games when I lived in Atlanta, and I don't know if you guys realize this yet, but Joe Johnson is the last person on earth you want to run an ISO for. I don't care who's guarding him. I saw like 3 seasons worth of JJ ISO's because that was Mike Woodson's only offensive strategy. Terrible. Just terrible.

We've seen 2 seasons of Joe Johnson Iso's. He could score on most players. It's just too bad that he tried to do it last night against one of the few players he can't.

Miami moved the ball a ton in the last two minutes and found bosh wide open THREE times. I knew he wasn't gonna miss the third one. We didn't score a single field goal in the last 4 minutes. The same thing happened versus Toronto in game 4. It's like we change our gameplan, start panicking and let an individual player be the hero. So dumb.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Dubs fan here. So what is wrong with Kidd? You guys move the ball beautifully all game and build an 8 pt lead then 1. go iso all the way and 2. completely ignore DWill during crunch time. Is there a clear policy that DWill is not a clutch player and his only role will be to retreat into the far corner and be ignored? Because the guy hit some big shots and throughout history isoing JJ for long stretches is some of the least efficient offense you can go to. Maybe for the final big shot he is clutch but going to him over and over again with Lebron guarding him is a recipe for giving up a lead in crunch time. Tonight and Monday were very disappointing for basketball fans. Some beautiful ball from a veteran club all game and then to have them resort to the ugliest and worst sort of ball when it counts the most leading to crushing losses is hard for any fan to have to watch.

[Jeffrey]

Jason Kidd did a below average coaching job with this series

-AK47? What happened to him, why didn't he play more minutes? Was it because of injuries or he isn't a great defender anymore?

-KG? Why didn't some of the offense flow through him? Is he just a defensive stopper with no offensive game at this point? If this is truly his last year, why is Kidd preserving him?

-I like the fact that Kidd changed his rotation to find the hot hand and try to ride with that player but at some point the players have chemistry with a certain lineup/rotation throughout the season.

-Did a wonderful job with Lopez going down and turned the season around.

-If team is still intact... it will be a better team. Chemistry was off and it usually takes a season to get things going (ex: First year Miami with big 3).

[Jeffrey]

Shouldn't the inbound play be... whoever Ray Allen is guarding... give the ball to him? It was Pierce, I would be glad for him to take the shot over Johnson vs. Lebron.

What happened to the ball movement?

Deron was the 2nd best player on the floor tonight and he literally didn't touch the ball for the last 2 minutes. With that said, if there is a chance for Lin and Asik for D-Will.. would you do it? Lin is a downgrade from D-Will but you can't ignore Asik's ability to rebound.

[jeff1624]

Shouldn't the inbound play be... whoever Ray Allen is guarding... give the ball to him? It was Pierce, I would be glad for him to take the shot over Johnson vs. Lebron.

What happened to the ball movement?

Deron was the 2nd best player on the floor tonight and he literally didn't touch the ball for the last 2 minutes. With that said, if there is a chance for Lin and Asik for D-Will.. would you do it? Lin is a downgrade from D-Will but you can't ignore Asik's ability to rebound.

I would consider it only because of the contratc length for the players involved, not because I think we'd get better (we wouldn't, Lin is a horrible player who i grew to despise while watching the Portland/Houston series.

And "jeffrey?" What kind of dumb name is that?

[Jeffrey]

Shouldn't the inbound play be... whoever Ray Allen is guarding... give the ball to him? It was Pierce, I would be glad for him to take the shot over Johnson vs. Lebron.

What happened to the ball movement?

Deron was the 2nd best player on the floor tonight and he literally didn't touch the ball for the last 2 minutes. With that said, if there is a chance for Lin and Asik for D-Will.. would you do it? Lin is a downgrade from D-Will but you can't ignore Asik's ability to rebound.

I would consider it only because of the contratc length for the players involved, not because I think we'd get better (we wouldn't, Lin is a horrible player who i grew to despise while watching the Portland/Houston series.

And "jeffrey?" What kind of dumb name is that?

Lin is a downgrade definitely but its Asik that the Nets need if Garnett retires. I don't see how Lopez can suddenly start grabbing 10+ rebounds.

jeffrey might be a dumb name but I don't know why your mom added numbers next to yours