The Nets Should Reconstruct The Roster To Suit Kidd's Style

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[MrDollarBills]

I will view this later when I am able, but I do agree with the general sentiment regardless.

A roster that can play an uptempo style with excellent outside shooting and solid team defense seem to be Kidd's vision. We'll get there eventually I imagine once we pay for King's blunders.

[Disabled Sports]

I will view this later when I am able, but I do agree with the general sentiment regardless.

A roster that can play an uptempo style with excellent outside shooting and solid team defense seem to be Kidd's vision. We'll get there eventually I imagine once we pay for King's blunders.

exactly in my opinion you guys have find a way to trade lopez because that will free up the paint so the players can move around freely

[Prokorov]

I dont think we are too far off.... also i think have BIG backcourt players is as important as having athletic guys, because kidd likes to be able to switch everything.

I think dwill, johnson, livingston, pierce, plumlee are all kidd type guys. I also think thornton, Anderson, and Mirza are kidd players as well. the first two are uptempo players while mirza is a stetch 4.

I think lopez has to go. I dont think he is a kidd player. i also am scared he will re-injure himself or take a while to regain form and kill his value. so if we can move him at the draft, id be all for it.

I'd love to add an iguodala type player. i think thats what we are missing. a super high energy guy who is also a solid player. anderons and livingston are energy guys, but they are low level role players. iggy is a tier down from an all-star.

unfortunetly,it would be near impossible to get him

[Disabled Sports]

I dont think we are too far off.... also i think have BIG backcourt players is as important as having athletic guys, because kidd likes to be able to switch everything.

I think dwill, johnson, livingston, pierce, plumlee are all kidd type guys. I also think thornton, Anderson, and Mirza are kidd players as well. the first two are uptempo players while mirza is a stetch 4.

I think lopez has to go. I dont think he is a kidd player. i also am scared he will re-injure himself or take a while to regain form and kill his value. so if we can move him at the draft, id be all for it.

I'd love to add an iguodala type player. i think thats what we are missing. a super high energy guy who is also a solid player. anderons and livingston are energy guys, but they are low level role players. iggy is a tier down from an all-star.

unfortunetly,it would be near impossible to get him

how about trading lopez to denver for fareid he doesn't fit shaw system in denver while lopez does

[Prokorov]

how about trading lopez to denver for fareid he doesn't fit shaw system in denver while lopez does

Faried makes 1 million and Lopez makes 16M. which means denver would need to add 11M or so to the deal for it to work under the CBA. which means the nets would need to take on either:

Javale McGee 2y/23m remaining
gallinari 2y/21m remaining
Chandler + Mozgov 1y/11m remaining.

the nets would do Lopez for chandler/faried/mozgov in a second, but denver wouldnt consider it

McGee and Galliari dont make sense, as neither of them would give us much cap relief. and im not sure denver would do faried/galliniari.

So Faried + McGee for lopez is the most likely, which poses the following options:

McGee is a low iq player who makes just 3M less then lopez per year
Faried is up after this season, and would need a contract that extends him into 2016.

i dont think it really fits.

from denver's standpoint, they are a run and gun team, not a great fit for lopez

[MrDollarBills]

I would trade Brook for Faried and Javale McGee.

[Paradise]

The plan this off-season is to give Kidd autonomy of the roster.

Kidd wants a run and gun fast team which is the only problem with this current core. Unless someone bails us out of these contracts, it will take years to get this roster to Kidd's vision.

[MrDollarBills]

Prok is right, I forgot that we'd have to extend Faried.

McGee and Chandler.

[BK nets BK]

Yes let's trade Lopez and keep d-will. Smh

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[Prokorov]

I would trade Brook for Faried and Javale McGee.

the problem with that is, after next year faried is a free agent. if someone else give him a 4 year deal worth 30-40 million we cant match that(without screwing ourselves).

which means we'd be trading lopez for javale mcgee and a 1 year rental of faried

id rather move lopez for a draft pick. that draft pick would be under our control for 3 years on a rookie deal.

[Prokorov]

Yes let's trade Lopez and keep d-will. Smh

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Keeping Dwill isnt a choice, there are next to no scenario's where we can trade him. A team that trades for him will owe him 3 years 71.3 million. there will be few if any takers.

Lopez doesnt fit this team, and you can actually get some value for him. getting a draft pick and expiring money for him would be big. it would get us under the tax in 2015 and it would give us a young player on a rookie deal in 2016

[NyCeEvO]

Yes let's trade Lopez and keep d-will. Smh

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Prok, MDB, and myself have been the main proponents of trading D-Will and that started a few years ago.

We've also stated many times that D-Will has been forgiven too much and needs to be traded.

No one is apologizing for D-Will. We've addressed/are addressing D-Will in other threads.

However, specifically regarding the issue of who fits better in Kidd's system, it's clearly D-Will.

[Prokorov]

Yes let's trade Lopez and keep d-will. Smh

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Prok, MDB, and myself have been the main proponents of trading D-Will and that started a few years ago.

We've also stated many times that D-Will has been forgiven too much and needs to be traded.

No one is apologizing for D-Will. We've addressed/are addressing D-Will in other threads.

However, specifically regarding the issue of who fits better in Kidd's system, it's clearly D-Will.

Yea, our chance to trade dwill past a long time ago... if we are gonna move him, we will have VERY few options, and may need to wait 1-2 years to do it.

i also agree, of the two, dwill fits better. Lopez, i just dont see it... on either end of the floor. He isnt the kind of player kidd wants. Kidd wants mobile bigs who can disrupt the pick and roll, and who can get up and down the floor.

[NyCeEvO]

Yes let's trade Lopez and keep d-will. Smh

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Prok, MDB, and myself have been the main proponents of trading D-Will and that started a few years ago.

We've also stated many times that D-Will has been forgiven too much and needs to be traded.

No one is apologizing for D-Will. We've addressed/are addressing D-Will in other threads.

However, specifically regarding the issue of who fits better in Kidd's system, it's clearly D-Will.

Yea, our chance to trade dwill past a long time ago... if we are gonna move him, we will have VERY few options, and may need to wait 1-2 years to do it.

i also agree, of the two, dwill fits better. Lopez, i just dont see it... on either end of the floor. He isnt the kind of player kidd wants. Kidd wants mobile bigs who can disrupt the pick and roll, and who can get up and down the floor.

I just realized that I meant to write Lopez, not D-Will in the first line.

I only got on the trade D-Will bandwagon this year.

However, the point still stands that Kidd believes Lopez doesn't fit this system (and I agree with Kidd).


That DEN trade proposal is very intriguing but I also agree that DEN is not going to want Lopez since he doesn't fit their style either.

Considering Shaw is a triangle guy, maybe he'd like to convert to a slower pace in the future and the idea of acquiring Lopez might intrigue him.

TBH, I'd do a Gallo/McGee for Lopez/Blatche

Gallo has been just as injury prone as Lopez, but a JJ/Gallo attack in a fast paced offense would be pretty sick especially considering that they're both tall. Gallo can even play smallball PF and not give up much in size, while still being very effective.

Even though McGee has extremely low BBIQ, he has streaks of 20 or so games where he plays really well because the coach is on him and doesn't let him do stupid stuff.

His and athleticism would be great on defense and he runs the floor pretty well for fastbreaks.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't wanna trade Brook at all. I think we can make it work. The real problem is D-Will. You rebuild the team around Lopez and Johnson, you can fit Kidd's style.

Just surround them with 3 point shooters and fast tempo players. Johnson on the wing, Lopez in the post, and shooters around them. Its a great strategy.

We have to realize how good JJ is, and start using his talents more.

[Prokorov]

TBH, I'd do a Gallo/McGee for Lopez/Blatche

Gallo has been just as injury prone as Lopez, but a JJ/Gallo attack in a fast paced offense would be pretty sick especially considering that they're both tall. Gallo can even play smallball PF and not give up much in size, while still being very effective.

Even though McGee has extremely low BBIQ, he has streaks of 20 or so games where he plays really well because the coach is on him and doesn't let him do stupid stuff.

His and athleticism would be great on defense and he runs the floor pretty well for fastbreaks.

blatche opted out, we cant trade him.

I dont like the deal anyhow, since its just swapping lopez for mcgee basically. we dont save money, we maybe get better, and we dont add a player on a rookie deal.

For me to trade Lopez, is need 1 of 2 things:

-player on a rookie deal through at least 15-16, or a draft pick
-Cap relief

preferebly both

[MrDollarBills]

I'm all for keeping Brook but the foot scares me

Can we build around Lopez/Johnson?

Possibly. But Brook would have to buy into the system where we require crisp ball movement. Brook would slow us down.

[CalamityX12]

When dwill gets outplayed by half the leagues starting pgs.. He really loses value to us....

Heck Shaun has outplayed him this yr imo

[Prokorov]

I don't wanna trade Brook at all. I think we can make it work. The real problem is D-Will. You rebuild the team around Lopez and Johnson, you can fit Kidd's style.

You want to take the 2 players we have, who fit Kidd's style the least, and build around them?

Just surround them with 3 point shooters and fast tempo players. Johnson on the wing, Lopez in the post, and shooters around them. Its a great strategy.

We have to realize how good JJ is, and start using his talents more.

Johnson isnt the problem. Lopez is. Kidd likes mobile centers who can disrupt the pick and roll and get up the floor and who arent ball stoppers. thats the opposite of brook.

i cant see anyway lopez works with kidd as coach. or vice versa.