The Jason Kidd Thread

[will]

First year head coach one year removed from being a player. Bound to be a learning curve and growing pains.

[jeff1624]

His rotations and play calling out of timeouts were just plain terrible.

He'll improve though and I appreciate the fact that he has a system that can be successfull. He'll be one of the better coaches down the road, but he was the biggest reason we didn't win more games both in the regular season and the playoffs. Glad we ended up with him over Brian Shaw, though.

[MrDollarBills]

We underwent some serious growing pains and blunders with Kidd at the helm.

That said, I cannot ignore the fact that for the first time since the NBA Finals team, the Nets established an identity that reflected his own style as a player.

that to me, is a major sign of encouragement. Once he figures out that playing 11 guys a game is idiocy, he will be fine and so will we once we set up a roster that suits his vision.

I give him a C+ grade.

[NyCeEvO]

Considering that he's a rookie coach, he's done a solid job. However, if he stays where he's at, he won't be coach for long.

I saw some encouraging signs when he changed the lineups for Games 6 and 7 of the TOR series.

But the in-game management and the inbounding plays are incredibly stupid. He let the assistant coaches draw up the plays for Pierce and JJ at the end of Game 6. Words cannot describe how terrible those plays were.

Game 7, the same crap happened where we had JJ taking the ball from the wing and try to get to the paint against LBJ. Again, completely foolish regardless of whether he was fouled or not.

He's done a solid job but he's got a lot of room for improvement. I expect better next season.

[MGrand15]

There is no perfect coach. Even Pop potentially cost his team the chip by taking Duncan out in crunchtime last year. Thibs legitimately runs his guys into the ground.

Kidd made plenty of mistakes including over-relying on his bench, our crunch time offense slowing to a crawl at times and all those out of bound plays against the Heat. But I judge a coach on his entire body of work and since January 1st, Kidd was great.

I said it before in this thread and say it again - Kidd made all the correct long-term decisions for the season. Went "smallball", played Blatche only at C, kept the team fresh for the playoffs, developed Livingston/Teletovic/Plumlee, utilized the entire bench and created a true offensive/defensive identity for the team. How many coaches pull that off? I don't think I could name more than 5. It was truly a creative and unique coaching job throughout the year that fit perfectly into this new age NBA. The complete opposite of the non-sense we saw last year with PJC.

His adjustments mid-playoffs were also overlooked. Benching Livingston against the Raptors, his high and strong traps of Lowry/Derozan were KEY in G6 and G7 in simply not allowing them to beat us, riding JJ even after they did everything they could to not let him beat them, quick hook on Thorton/Plumlee, taking Deron out at the 3 minute mark of the 1st so he can play with the 2nd unit in the 2nd quarter once the 2nd unit was struggling, playing AK47/Teletovic at C, etc.

He made mistakes, don't get me wrong. I was furious when he had 4 bench guys + Livingston playing in an elimination game. I hated the fact we played not to lose when we were up 9 with 4 minutes left. I hated the fact that he had a very chilled attitude towards losing on the 2nd half of back-to-backs and those 4 of 5 games to end the season. Those out of bound plays at the end were very, very bad and gave us very little chance to win. Surprisingly bad actually. And as important as those decisions are, it's not the end all be all IMO.

He has room to improve, obviously as a first year coach, but he was great this year. Happy that he proved the doubters wrong and I'm really happy he's with us.

[Born_Ready]

There is no perfect coach. Even Pop potentially cost his team the chip by taking Duncan out in crunchtime last year. Thibs legitimately runs his guys into the ground.

Kidd made plenty of mistakes including over-relying on his bench, our crunch time offense slowing to a crawl at times and all those out of bound plays against the Heat. But I judge a coach on his entire body of work and since January 1st, Kidd was great.

I said it before in this thread and say it again - Kidd made all the correct long-term decisions for the season. Went "smallball", played Blatche only at C, kept the team fresh for the playoffs, developed Livingston/Teletovic/Plumlee, utilized the entire bench and created a true offensive/defensive identity for the team. How many coaches pull that off? I don't think I could name more than 5. It was truly a creative and unique coaching job throughout the year that fit perfectly into this new age NBA. The complete opposite of the non-sense we saw last year with PJC.

His adjustments mid-playoffs were also overlooked. Benching Livingston against the Raptors, his high and strong traps of Lowry/Derozan were KEY in G6 and G7 in simply not allowing them to beat us, riding JJ even after they did everything they could to not let him beat them, quick hook on Thorton/Plumlee, taking Deron out at the 3 minute mark of the 1st so he can play with the 2nd unit in the 2nd quarter once the 2nd unit was struggling, playing AK47/Teletovic at C, etc.

He made mistakes, don't get me wrong. I was furious when he had 4 bench guys + Livingston playing in an elimination game. I hated the fact we played not to lose when we were up 9 with 4 minutes left. I hated the fact that he had a very chilled attitude towards losing on the 2nd half of back-to-backs and those 4 of 5 games to end the season. Those out of bound plays at the end were very, very bad and gave us very little chance to win. Surprisingly bad actually. And as important as those decisions are, it's not the end all be all IMO.

He has room to improve, obviously as a first year coach, but he was great this year. Happy that he proved the doubters wrong and I'm really happy he's with us.

Agreed 100%. Hopefully he can retain quality assistants throughout his career. I think he will be fine.

[Prokorov]

Kidd was an awful coach, but he is a rookie coach 1 year removed from playing and he lsot a key piece to injury. so id give him a C+

Pros:

-Went small ball (although, kind of forced on him when brook went down)
-Gave us an identity

Cons

- In game coaching, rotations
- Accountability
- Throws away games, doesnt create a culture where every game matters

i think in 5 or 10 years he will be one of the better coaches in the league. right now, he is kind of in over his head. but alot of the stuff he does wrong is correctable.

to compare the mistakes popovich makes with the mistakes kidd makes is just crazy. its apples and oranges. pop does 10000 things right and anyone he plugs in his team still steam rolls everyone. if he coached this team, we'd ahve won 55 games and pushed miami to the brink.

all the focus on the spurs losing game 6, and none on what pop did to get them in that spot. all the brilliant things he did to gaurd lebron and their 3 point shooters. he had BORIS DIAW giving lebron some trouble. DIAW.

also, what always gets ignored is that if kawai leonard doesnt choke at the FT line then allen's 3 doesnt tie it. Going small proved to be the wrong decision, but miami had 5 3 point shooters on the floor and were small themselves. it was a bad mvoe, but not a terrible one

[NyCeEvO]

Kidd better be at home with pen and pad watching the SAS-OKC game and studying how Pop makes a adjustments.

Pop is a such a beast.

[NetsWorld]

It's year 1 of his coaching career. He did fine for his first year and I don't expect Kidd to get worse but rather better. It's better to go in a fresh direction of a new coach and the Nets did just that. I would give him a B-. Yes, bench overplay and rotations play a part but it's part of the growing pains of being a new coach. He still did a better job than Avery or PJ.

[MrDollarBills]

He still did a better job than Avery or PJ.

That in itself is why I have him a C+ grade along with expectations for improvement.

[Prokorov]

He still did a better job than Avery or PJ.

That in itself is why I have him a C+ grade along with expectations for improvement.

exactly... if not for being a new coach id have given him lower then a C+

[Paradise]

I don't see it what everyone else is seeing.


-Eye for talent. He wanted Livingston, Plumlee and Gutierrez here.

-He went small to suit our situation. He didn't have to do that.

-Created a new offense/defense identity on the fly after Frank was reassigned.

-Player Development of Livingston, Teletovic, Plumlee, Thornton and Gutierrez.

-Good game to game adjustments in the Playoffs.

I don't see how any "awful" coach can do all of that under one season as a rookie.

His biggest flaws are his stubbornness with minutes and in-game rotations. That's a good problem to have compared to these other coaches.

I'll give him a B-

[Prokorov]

I don't see it what everyone else is seeing.


-Eye for talent. He wanted Livingston, Plumlee and Gutierrez here.

-He went small to suit our situation. He didn't have to do that.

-Created a new offense/defense identity on the fly after Frank was reassigned.

-Player Development of Livingston, Teletovic, Plumlee, Thornton and Gutierrez.

-Good game to game adjustments in the Playoffs.

I don't see how any "awful" coach can do all of that under one season as a rookie.

His biggest flaws are his stubbornness with minutes and in-game rotations. That's a good problem to have compared to these other coaches.

I'll give him a B-

his problem is in game coaching. he doesnt know how to utilize timeouts, and doesnt make in game adjustments.

also, livingston had just as good a year last year with cleveland. numbers nearly identical across the board. mirza got more minutes, but he also was part of a small log jam. he didnt play much early before lopez went down and evans was traded.

but i mean, you cant be a bottom 3 in game coach, and not take criticism for it.

[fonikukoc]

Spoiler:

is Jason Kidd “slow”?

[fonikukoc]

is Jason Kidd “slow”?