Ricky's Rock Bottom?

blaateeee · Post #1 » by **blaateeee** » Fri May 16, 2014 9:54 pm

Haven't seen control issues like this.

He walked 5 straight, has 9 total, not even the third inning yet.

Broke the record for walks in a game by a Buffalo bison lol.

Trilogy · Post #2 » by **Trilogy** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:04 pm

cameo60 wrote:Haven't seen control issues like this.

He walked 5 straight, has 9 total, not even the third inning yet.

Broke the record for walks in a game by a Buffalo bison lol.

Still has a no hitter going though.

Randle McMurphy · Post #3 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:25 pm

This is pretty par for the course these days for him.

s e n s i · Post #4 » by **s e n s i** » Fri May 16, 2014 11:29 pm

9 walks in 2.2 IP

that is rock bottom

i mean, at least get shelled. but to WALK NINE in 2.2 IP. i'm pretty sure i could do better than that at a fraction of the cost

Santoki · Post #5 » by **Santoki** » Fri May 16, 2014 11:32 pm

If Romero didn't have another $15 million owing to him he probably would have pulled a Getz by now.

chargerxthirty · Post #6 » by **chargerxthirty** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:15 am

but at least he's better than Troy Tulowitzki right?

SharoneWright · Post #7 » by **SharoneWright** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:17 am

Wonder if he's still mad about his demotion....

Lateral Quicks · Post #8 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:19 am

It's really unfortunate to see that. You never want to see a guy implode like that in what should be the prime of his career. If he hasn't made some significant mechanical adjustments yet, now is most certainly the time.

Graham's Cracker · Post #9 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:22 am

The 2nd half of the double header Mr Hyde (Drabek) was the opposite of Ricky. Didn't walk a batter but gave up 12 hits in 5 innings.

Michael Bradley · Post #10 » by **Michael Bradley** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:00 am

Romero has had a never-ending rock bottom since the 2nd half of 2012. I don't see him ever being a MLB'er for the Jays again. It's possible he goes to another team and they fix whatever is wrong with him, but even that looks unlikely given how truly awful he has looked for 2+ years now.

The MLB draft is a crapshoot regardless of where you select, but Romero over Tulo has to be one of the biggest franchise altering mistakes in Jays history. A 6.0 WAR short-stop with plus defense and offense doesn't grow on trees. What could have been.

Post #11 » by **Schad** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:10 am

74 pitches...25 for strikes. That's really quite something.

Randle McMurphy · Post #12 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat May 17, 2014 4:17 am

Michael Bradley wrote:The MLB draft is a crapshoot regardless of where you select, but Romero over Tulo has to be one of the biggest franchise altering mistakes in Jays history. A 6.0 WAR short-stop with plus defense and offense doesn't grow on trees. What could have been.

I wouldn't bother dwelling on it. You could say 24 teams made a franchise altering mistake in not drafting Mike Trout using this reasoning. Nobody ever really knows what these guys will amount to.

At least in Romero they got a very good pitcher out of that pick for a while. Indeed, in terms of value provided at the MLB level, Romero is actually the organization's best 1st round pick of the last decade.

AWillFan20 · Post #13 » by **AWillFan20** » Sat May 17, 2014 4:36 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Michael Bradley wrote:The MLB draft is a crapshoot regardless of where you select, but Romero over Tulo has to be one of the biggest franchise altering mistakes in Jays history. A 6.0 WAR short-stop with plus defense and offense doesn't grow on trees. What could have been.

I wouldn't bother dwelling on it. You could say 24 teams made a franchise altering mistake in not drafting Mike Trout using this reasoning. Nobody ever really knows what these guys will amount to.

At least in Romero they got a very good pitcher out of that pick for a while. Indeed, in terms of value provided at the MLB level, Romero is actually the organization's best 1st round pick of the last decade.

In 1988 the LA Dodgers used their 68th round pick (1390th) to select Mike Piazza.

That's about all you can say to sum up how wide open the MLB draft can be.

I just looked up any random draft too. In 2004 the Padres selcted Matt Bush over Justin Verlander who went 2nd. 4 or 5 other pitchers went before Jared Weaver, and about 20 pitchers went before Gio Gonzalez... you really can't know which guy is going to amount to their full potential in a baseball draft. The way the minor league system works makes it a bit of a crap shoot for development sometimes.

Michael Bradley · Post #14 » by **Michael Bradley** » Sat May 17, 2014 4:37 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Michael Bradley wrote:The MLB draft is a crapshoot regardless of where you select, but Romero over Tulo has to be one of the biggest franchise altering mistakes in Jays history. A 6.0 WAR short-stop with plus defense and offense doesn't grow on trees. What could have been.

I wouldn't bother dwelling on it. You could say 24 teams made a franchise altering mistake in not drafting Mike Trout using this reasoning. Nobody ever really knows what these guys will amount to.

At least in Romero they got a very good pitcher out of that pick for a while. Indeed, in terms of value provided at the MLB level, Romero is actually the organization's best 1st round pick of the last decade.

Tulo was a consensus top 5-6 pick in 2005. Trout was not in 2009. The moment the Romero pick happened, I vividly remember fans wondering why they passed on Tulo (I was one of them) and media pointing it out as well. I believe even Keith Law mentioned that everyone on the Jays except Ricciardi wanted Tulowitzki (although that could have just been Law being the douchebag that he is). Trout is not even close to a similar example because the perception of his upside was not high enough back then, for whatever reason. Tulo's was. This is not a "we should have drafted Pujols" thread. Romero and Tulo will always be linked together because the Jays passed on what practically everyone considered the best talent on board for Romero. This has been brought up for many years.

It's not worth dwelling on. I just pointed it out because Romero's career looks about done already while Tulo is still at his peak with no end in sight. I was kind of just looking back at Romero's tenure in retrospect.

kwamebargnani · Post #15 » by **kwamebargnani** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:26 am

Michael Bradley wrote:The MLB draft is a crapshoot regardless of where you select, but Romero over Tulo has to be one of the biggest franchise altering mistakes in Jays history. A 6.0 WAR short-stop with plus defense and offense doesn't grow on trees. What could have been.

JP got what he deserves by completely ignoring clear BPA and going for team needs. Who does that in a baseball draft ? especially with top 10 pick.

Raptor_Guy · Post #16 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Sat May 17, 2014 6:37 pm

He didn't draft Tulo because we had Russ Adams and Aaron Hill, like cmon it's baseball you can't just assume 2 guys you already drafted are going to pan out and not draft the BPA.

UN-Owen · Post #17 » by **UN-Owen** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:20 pm

Raptor_Guy wrote:He didn't draft Tulo because we had Russ Adams and Aaron Hill, like cmon it's baseball you can't just assume 2 guys you already drafted are going to pan out and not draft the BPA.

Didn't Joey Votto get drafted a few picks after Russ Adams?

Post #18 » by **Schad** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:47 pm

UN-Owen wrote:
Raptor_Guy wrote:He didn't draft Tulo because we had Russ Adams and Aaron Hill, like cmon it's baseball you can't just assume 2 guys you already drafted are going to pan out and not draft the BPA.

Didn't Joey Votto get drafted a few picks after Russ Adams?

Thirty picks after.

bballsparkin · Post #19 » by **bballsparkin** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:54 pm

He was looking like a good starter for the rotation and then his career just went all Kenny Powers lol

Yosemite Dan · Post #20 » by **Yosemite Dan** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:58 pm

Raptor_Guy wrote:He didn't draft Tulo because we had Russ Adams and Aaron Hill, like cmon it's baseball you can't just assume 2 guys you already drafted are going to pan out and not draft the BPA.

The story I read was that JP was specifically enamoured with Adams' offense as a reason not to pick Tulowitski. Somehow his bat was reason enough to ignore the fact that he couldn't throw to 1st base.