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Post#2001 » by DetroitSho » Thu May 15, 2014 1:54 pm

Neptune wrote:
504ByrdGang wrote:The only way I can see us(PELs) making a trade for Monroe is a S & T for Anderson people forget he can give you 19/7 every night for only 8 mil. I doubt it will happen though because no way we sign him near max when he would be our 3rd or 4th option.

ByrdGang your Pelicans would have to give us more for Monroe. How about Anderson+Whittey+Future 1st rounder for Monroe+Jerebko? And no worries, nobody is offering Monroe the max.

Do you just all out refuse to accept that Monroe can't be packaged with anyone else in a S&T? How many times does that have to be stated?

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Post#2002 » by Neptune » Thu May 15, 2014 1:54 pm

ayatooma wrote:
Kilo wrote:Not a trade per se, but with Kerr choosing GSW I think Melo is much likelier to leave Knicks now as FA. Now he wants to go to a winner and Chicago will make room for him by ridding Boozer and selling the idea of Rose/Noah/Melo Big 3, but Rose can't stay healthy either.

Monroe/Jennings/#8 for Rondo+filler (two seperate deals as necessary), sign Melo by selling him on Stan Van Gundy as coach, playing with Drummond, Rondo and Smoove.

Rajon Rondo
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Carmelo Anthony
Josh Smith
Andre Drummond


Just posted something similar (maybe more realistic) on the off season topic. We S&T Moose/Stuckey/#8 for JR Smith/Melo. Draft Dinwiddle in the second. Big time knucklehead team, but definitely interesting.

Jennings
KCP/JR Smith
Melo
JSmoove
Drummond

BENCH-
Dinwiddle
JR/KCP
Singler
Harrellson

Bro, I don't think we can sign and trade both Monroe and Stuckey before the draft. I'm still giving you an And1 though. :wink:
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2003 » by Neptune » Thu May 15, 2014 2:08 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
Neptune wrote:
504ByrdGang wrote:The only way I can see us(PELs) making a trade for Monroe is a S & T for Anderson people forget he can give you 19/7 every night for only 8 mil. I doubt it will happen though because no way we sign him near max when he would be our 3rd or 4th option.

ByrdGang your Pelicans would have to give us more for Monroe. How about Anderson+Whittey+Future 1st rounder for Monroe+Jerebko? And no worries, nobody is offering Monroe the max.

Do you just all out refuse to accept that Monroe can't be packaged with anyone else in a S&T? How many times does that have to be stated?

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Thanks for info. I didn't know that.
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Post#2004 » by cammac » Fri May 16, 2014 2:14 pm

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paQo the BAWSER wrote:It's funny how a poor english man version try to disrespect an european, who gives him his culture, I wonder if you still throwing arrows if wasn't for the europeans.
The joke about Google Translate was unnecessary, but don't even try to start a US vs. Europe fight here.

Also, you realize that Americans are decedents of Europeans, right? You can't gift something to yourself.

Plus, Americans as you know them aren't Native Americans/American Indians, who would be the arrow-wielding guys you are thinking of.

And, final note, almost the entire continent relies on the US for any real force-projection or national defense, so we're the only thing standing between you and becoming a part of Putin's new empire. Food for thought.


Thanks for the lesson on culture and the it's "Manifest Destiny".

#1 think many people of color believe they are true US citizens and I don't believe they were Europeans.
#2 Seems to me that Britain, Germany & France two of which have a nuclear deterrent can defend themselves relatively easily add in many other countries. NATO is a alliance that benefits the USA in many ways with there escapade's in Iraq and Afghanistan.
#3 Europe has need for Russian natural gas so they would rather negotiate.
#4 What would happen if the other country in the America's decided it suited there national interest to sell oil and natural gas to China rather than supply 40% of the USA's energy needs. ( it wouldn't happen )
When the USA provides quality health care, good education, tolerance, a 2 party system that isn't beholding to special interest groups, lobbyists and actually does things for the citizens give me a call.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2005 » by mercury » Sat May 17, 2014 5:53 am

Why can't folks on this forum just accept other's opinions without having to correct everything... this is what discourages good posters from contributing... buncha anal prima donnas.
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Post#2006 » by Pharaoh » Sat May 17, 2014 9:59 am

mercury wrote:Why can't folks on this forum just accept other's opinions without having to correct everything... this is what discourages good posters from contributing... buncha anal prima donnas.


The USA v Euro thing is funny to me!

The ego is a funny thing...we all have one though.

I have to say I've been very happy since I returned to Real GM. Lots of quality posters here...means I don't have to post much at all since they say what needs to be said before I even wake up!

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Post#2007 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sat May 17, 2014 11:36 am

I got no problems with any USA citizen. There are a lot of people here who can't respect the others opinions. If you say you prefer Smith, even if you think Monroe is a good player (Worst of him for me is his mentality), you're absolutely a fool and the Clarity crew start to make soft nerd jokes.

Man, I love USA and his culture, but you can't disrespect to me because you got a lot of bandwagons who repeat the same s**t all the time, and if you don't think like them you don't know nothing.

And sorry for your racism mind thinking in Europe we don't know about basketball, but here there are a lot of threads which laugh at you and the Monroe's love of the Pistons' fan.

Now, you can make your jokes and try to disrespect to me because I can't talk well english. Seriously, I don't know when the bad boys turn into little jokers.

But, I don't trust in people who think Paul is the better PG in the league (not in PO at least), the people who think LMA is better defender than Griffin, the people who think W. Matthews is elite defender because of Harden, the people who laugh putting lol (that's got a censored definition for me).

If you don't like my opinion, I'm cool with that. If you wanna make some jokes for your followers, I'm cool with that. But some people here start to act like a ***** and start to talk to banned me :lol: I know there are few freedom in the USA but, c'mon men, you're better than this.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2008 » by DetroitSho » Sat May 17, 2014 1:45 pm

mercury wrote:Why can't folks on this forum just accept other's opinions without having to correct everything... this is what discourages good posters from contributing... buncha anal prima donnas.

Thinly veiled, I like it.

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Post#2009 » by ImHeisenberg » Sat May 17, 2014 1:55 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
Neptune wrote:
504ByrdGang wrote:The only way I can see us(PELs) making a trade for Monroe is a S & T for Anderson people forget he can give you 19/7 every night for only 8 mil. I doubt it will happen though because no way we sign him near max when he would be our 3rd or 4th option.

ByrdGang your Pelicans would have to give us more for Monroe. How about Anderson+Whittey+Future 1st rounder for Monroe+Jerebko? And no worries, nobody is offering Monroe the max.

Do you just all out refuse to accept that Monroe can't be packaged with anyone else in a S&T? How many times does that have to be stated?

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That and the regular "trade Monroe on draft night for X and X" proposals.

Or, "trade out pick for X" stuff. We can't trade any first round picks until we consummate Dumars' final vengeance on us and send a first round pick to Charlotte.
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Post#2010 » by Laimbeer » Sat May 17, 2014 2:39 pm

Minas wrote:Matt Moore suggested a trade on the Eye on Basketball Podcast yesterday.

S&T Moose for Gallo

Makes a lot of sense for Denver, Moose is the exact type of player that Shaw wants for his system. But the question is do we want Gallo?

What do you guys think? I personally hope that we keep Moose, but I think this a reasonable and realistic deal.


He's missed a year and a half and is coming back after a total knee reconstruction. And I'm not sure he's worth Monroe if healthy.
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Post#2011 » by Laimbeer » Sat May 17, 2014 2:43 pm

Kilo wrote:Not a trade per se, but with Kerr choosing GSW I think Melo is much likelier to leave Knicks now as FA. Now he wants to go to a winner and Chicago will make room for him by ridding Boozer and selling the idea of Rose/Noah/Melo Big 3, but Rose can't stay healthy either.

Monroe/Jennings/#8 for Rondo+filler (two seperate deals as necessary), sign Melo by selling him on Stan Van Gundy as coach, playing with Drummond, Rondo and Smoove.

Rajon Rondo
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Carmelo Anthony
Josh Smith
Andre Drummond


Just a FYI.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1304754&view=viewpoll

If Melo were willing, it's a shot I would certainly take. But it's doubtful he would be.
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Post#2012 » by coolness » Sat May 17, 2014 5:13 pm

P.Siva
L.Datome
T.Mitchell
J.Harrelson

for

M.Dunleavy Jr.


Why for us?
the most proven player in the deal.
he's a skilled vet who can stretch the floor at the 2/3/4.

Why for them?
4 guys who MIGHT contribute. (okay, I don't think Mitchell will.)
Chicago has almost no bench or deep reserves enlisted for next year unless you count their unguaranteed contracts who they will use as trade bait.
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Post#2013 » by HotelVitale » Sat May 17, 2014 6:15 pm

coolness wrote:P.Siva
L.Datome
T.Mitchell
J.Harrelson
for
M.Dunleavy Jr.


We could probably get Dunleavy for nothing now, Bulls want to cut his salary for a Melo run (or other FAs). $3m expiring, doesn't sound bad to me if our other options are overpaying some other middling SF.
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Post#2014 » by MrBigShot » Sat May 17, 2014 7:53 pm

I think Melo will end up staying in NY, but man if we managed to upgrade at the PG position and he had interest, we'd have one heck of a lineup. Imagine Dre/Moose/Melo/KCP/Smart. That's a team with 3 guys who could all be 1st or 2nd team all defense, Monroe/Dre who are both very capable in the low post and Melo who is one of the best scorers in the league.

Call me crazy but that coupled with Stan seems more enticing to me than NY or Chicago, market size aside. After all, DRose may never be able to remain healthy again.
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Post#2015 » by Phenomenonsense » Sat May 17, 2014 9:39 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
Neptune wrote:ByrdGang your Pelicans would have to give us more for Monroe. How about Anderson+Whittey+Future 1st rounder for Monroe+Jerebko? And no worries, nobody is offering Monroe the max.

Do you just all out refuse to accept that Monroe can't be packaged with anyone else in a S&T? How many times does that have to be stated?

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That and the regular "trade Monroe on draft night for X and X" proposals.

Or, "trade out pick for X" stuff. We can't trade any first round picks until we consummate Dumars' final vengeance on us and send a first round pick to Charlotte.


We can still trade the pick. We just have to pick whoever someone else wants and trade the player. It's the same thing.
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Post#2016 » by HotelVitale » Sat May 17, 2014 9:46 pm

MrBigShot wrote:I think Melo will end up staying in NY, but man if we managed to upgrade at the PG position and he had interest, we'd have one heck of a lineup. Imagine Dre/Moose/Melo/KCP/Smart. That's a team with 3 guys who could all be 1st or 2nd team all defense, Monroe/Dre who are both very capable in the low post and Melo who is one of the best scorers in the league.
Call me crazy but that coupled with Stan seems more enticing to me than NY or Chicago, market size aside. After all, DRose may never be able to remain healthy again.


I'd call you crazy on that one. Chicago is a team that right now is a 4th seed and has title contender status if Rose comes back pretty strong. Even if you bet conservatively on Rose, him and Melo push them into consistent contention (even if they'd trail the Heat as favorites in the east). And they'll add Mirotic soon, who would likely be a top-5 pick this year.

You're assuming the best possible estimate of the current Pistons, and I doubt Melo would consider taking that risk. For instance, it's a big long shot that Smart and KCP are all-defense players, while Noah is right now a DPY and Gibson and Butler are all-defense level guys. And SVG could be a great coach for this team, but Thibs is indisputably an elite coach with the Bulls.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2017 » by ImHeisenberg » Sat May 17, 2014 10:01 pm

Phenomenonsense wrote:We can still trade the pick. We just have to pick whoever someone else wants and trade the player. It's the same thing.


Only idiot GM's trade away top 10 picks, unless they're getting a star in return.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2018 » by sfballa13 » Sat May 17, 2014 11:42 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Kilo wrote:Not a trade per se, but with Kerr choosing GSW I think Melo is much likelier to leave Knicks now as FA. Now he wants to go to a winner and Chicago will make room for him by ridding Boozer and selling the idea of Rose/Noah/Melo Big 3, but Rose can't stay healthy either.

Monroe/Jennings/#8 for Rondo+filler (two seperate deals as necessary), sign Melo by selling him on Stan Van Gundy as coach, playing with Drummond, Rondo and Smoove.

Rajon Rondo
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Carmelo Anthony
Josh Smith
Andre Drummond


Just a FYI.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1304754&view=viewpoll

If Melo were willing, it's a shot I would certainly take. But it's doubtful he would be.


We wouldnt have to include Jennings in a trade to Boston.

-Monroe for Rondo
-#8 for Bass / Sullinger
-Josh Smith for David Lee
-Melo signs a max deal

Rondo / Jennings
KCP / Singler
Melo / Datome
Lee / Sullinger - Bass
Drummond/ Sullinger
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Post#2019 » by Clarity » Sun May 18, 2014 12:28 am

paQo the BAWSER wrote:I got no problems with any USA citizen. There are a lot of people here who can't respect the others opinions. If you say you prefer Smith, even if you think Monroe is a good player (Worst of him for me is his mentality), you're absolutely a fool and the Clarity crew start to make soft nerd jokes.

Man, I love USA and his culture, but you can't disrespect to me because you got a lot of bandwagons who repeat the same s**t all the time, and if you don't think like them you don't know nothing.

And sorry for your racism mind thinking in Europe we don't know about basketball, but here there are a lot of threads which laugh at you and the Monroe's love of the Pistons' fan.

Now, you can make your jokes and try to disrespect to me because I can't talk well english. Seriously, I don't know when the bad boys turn into little jokers.

But, I don't trust in people who think Paul is the better PG in the league (not in PO at least), the people who think LMA is better defender than Griffin, the people who think W. Matthews is elite defender because of Harden, the people who laugh putting lol (that's got a censored definition for me).

If you don't like my opinion, I'm cool with that. If you wanna make some jokes for your followers, I'm cool with that. But some people here start to act like a ***** and start to talk to banned me :lol: I know there are few freedom in the USA but, c'mon men, you're better than this.


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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2020 » by Clarity » Sun May 18, 2014 12:36 am

paQo the BAWSER wrote:If you guys think Rodman was a smart player (or even Big Ben), you need to back to the college.


We American's invented basketball & hip hop which appear to be 2 of your loves, so yeah it will always be funny when someone thinks they know something better than the people who invented it.

Quit being sensitive, its all jokes here. If you say something ridiculous (like that quote above) expect to get jokes thrown at you.

Too many dudes are wearing skirts in here, its all jokes guys.

A few of you could learn something from Neptune.

MrBigShot wrote:I think Melo will end up staying in NY, but man if we managed to upgrade at the PG position and he had interest, we'd have one heck of a lineup. Imagine Dre/Moose/Melo/KCP/Smart. That's a team with 3 guys who could all be 1st or 2nd team all defense, Monroe/Dre who are both very capable in the low post and Melo who is one of the best scorers in the league.

Call me crazy but that coupled with Stan seems more enticing to me than NY or Chicago, market size aside. After all, DRose may never be able to remain healthy again.


Carmelo is really an awesome #2 option, Its why he always plays light years better in the Olympics & All Star Games. He isnt leading a team anywhere as the go to option, his offense is best in iso's currently & he plays no defense. Chicago would be a great spot for him if Rose can come back, he can play off of Rose & Thibs will hold him accountable defensively.

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