Paul George Versus Lebron: Who gets the best of who?

KobeKenobi · Post #1 » by **KobeKenobi** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:54 am

This is it. King George V. King James. I assume Paul George will be on Lebron. Considering the ghost fouls on Lebron during the Nets series this could be a dangerous move to put PG on Lebron. Or will refs be fair and let two superstars go at it this series?

And if the refs are fair, who will come out on top? Can Paul George stop Lebron and be aggressive and consistent on the offensive end? Can Paul George have that good offensive flow to his game like in the beginning of the season, when he was playing without doubt, and pure confidence? I think in the beginning of the season he was playing without thinking too much about it...now he is thinking too much, and second guessing himself.

Someone needs to tell PG you just need to go out and play like you know you can, and stop thinking too much. Great players don't have a conscious. :nod:

Post #2 » by **Jake0890** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:03 am

No one can "stop" LeBron. PG can slow him down just as much as anyone else, but LeBron will statistically beat PG just as he always has.

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SmashMouthRod · Post #3 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Sat May 17, 2014 5:51 am

Lebron will have more stats than PG but Paul is equally as skilled and will cause trouble for Bron as well. Its obvious that Lebron has a size advantage; which will be tough on Paul on them Post ups. In any other capacity I like Paul matched up with Lebron. Paul is quicker with great hands so that makes for a tough matchup for Bron. I like both the Stephenson/Wade and Bron/PG matchups. Paul George may not be able to shut down Lebron; but it goes both ways; Lebron cannot guard Paul. If the refs let them play; this series will be epic.

Beffiosa · Post #4 » by **Beffiosa** » Sat May 17, 2014 8:54 pm

SmashMouthRod wrote:Lebron will have more stats than PG but Paul is equally as skilled and will cause trouble for Bron as well. Its obvious that Lebron has a size advantage; which will be tough on Paul on them Post ups. In any other capacity I like Paul matched up with Lebron. Paul is quicker with great hands so that makes for a tough matchup for Bron. I like both the Stephenson/Wade and Bron/PG matchups. Paul George may not be able to shut down Lebron; but it goes both ways; Lebron cannot guard Paul. If the refs let them play; this series will be epic.

Paul George is not equally as skilled. The fact that one shoots 57% from the field and and the other shoots a horrible 42% shows the difference in skillset. Lebron has a superior post game, Lebron has superior ball handling ability, Lebron has superior ability to finish around the rim with both hands, Lebron has superior offensive awareness ( ability to dictate offensive plays to either score or allow his teammates to score), Lebron has superior passing ability, Lebron can be the team's primary ball handler because of some of those listed above. Paul George is lacking in a lot of areas that prevents him from being a superstar.

KobeKenobi · Post #5 » by **KobeKenobi** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:21 pm

It would be nice to see PG attack Lebron more this series and just take it strong if he is guarding him. As far as FG% goes, I don't think Lebron is a better shooter, he just uses his size and rams his body in there to get easy twos. He has more of a size advantage than a skill advantage.

Beffiosa · Post #6 » by **Beffiosa** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:38 pm

KobeKenobi wrote:It would be nice to see PG attack Lebron more this series and just take it strong if he is guarding him. As far as FG% goes, I don't think Lebron is a better shooter, he just uses his size and rams his body in there to get easy twos. He has more of a size advantage than a skill advantage.

Lebron James
at the rim 78.3%
3-9 feet 60.0%
10-15 feet 40%
16-23 feet 46.0%

Paul George
at the rim 63.6%
3.9 feet 26.5
10-15 feet 34.5
16-23 feet 37.0%

Not sure if u only watch Lebron play when he plays Indiana but his jumper is very good and that is why he is able to have a 57FG% while going to the rim less than he did while in Cleveland
Do you realize passing, ball handling are also skills? There is a reason why Lebron's Cavs were top 3 in offense almost every yr even with limited talent and Miami has been a top 1 or 2 offense each yr Lebron has been in Miami. Pacers is one of the worse offensive teams in the NBA with Paul george as their leader because he just not a talented offensive player. He's one of my favorite player in the league but it anyone who says George is close to being as skilled don't know basketball. If he was as skilled he would be the primary ball handler since the PG not reliable or he would be creating shots for his teammates in an offense that can become real hard to watch at times.

BTW all stat info posted above can be found on sites like hoopdata etc

SmashMouthRod · Post #7 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:03 am

Beffiosa wrote:
SmashMouthRod wrote:Lebron will have more stats than PG but Paul is equally as skilled and will cause trouble for Bron as well. Its obvious that Lebron has a size advantage; which will be tough on Paul on them Post ups. In any other capacity I like Paul matched up with Lebron. Paul is quicker with great hands so that makes for a tough matchup for Bron. I like both the Stephenson/Wade and Bron/PG matchups. Paul George may not be able to shut down Lebron; but it goes both ways; Lebron cannot guard Paul. If the refs let them play; this series will be epic.

Paul George is not equally as skilled. The fact that one shoots 57% from the field and and the other shoots a horrible 42% shows the difference in skillset. Lebron has a superior post game, Lebron has superior ball handling ability, Lebron has superior ability to finish around the rim with both hands, Lebron has superior offensive awareness ( ability to dictate offensive plays to either score or allow his teammates to score), Lebron has superior passing ability, Lebron can be the team's primary ball handler because of some of those listed above. Paul George is lacking in a lot of areas that prevents him from being a superstar.

I dont know if you've seen Paul George play but he does possess many of the skills that you seem to think he doesnt. Paul has great offensive awareness; passing; ball handling; and he most definitely can finish with either hand around the rim. If you said consistency; experience; savvy; posting up or strength I would have to agree. I would agree that Lebron is the better floor general. But Paul is as skilled as LeBron. If you remember earlier this year ppl were ready to name him the MVP until he started to struggle through a stretch. And Paul is 6 years younger might I add. The reason this series is even something to talk about is because of the level Paul plays at. I understand that Paul shot the lesser percentage. Paul also guards the opposing teams best player every night for most of the game (this includes 1's, 2's, 3's, and some 4's). Lebron doesnt always take those matchups. In fact Battier does it more often. To guard the other teams best player for 40 or more minutes; contain him; and still score 20 or more; even against likes of Lebron and Melo; You cant deny this guy is one of the best; NO IF's ANDS; or BUTS!

Post #8 » by **Miller4ever** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:32 am

Lebron CAN be as good of a defensive player as Paul and Paul CAN be as good of an offensive player as Lebron but they both choose to do their thing, and are both damn good players. Lebron is the best player (at LEAST second best) in the NBA whereas Paul is top-3 to some and merely top-15 to others. Paul's mechanics were damn near perfect at the beginning of the season, but they've gotten away from him. I anticipate he'll be better next season as he continues to build consistency. Until then, he's going to keep having his 42% shooting. By the way, he's got a TS of 57%. It's not stratospheric Bron level, but his skill of canning free throws better than Lebron shouldn't be overlooked.

For this series, James is probably going to have the bigger impact because on the Heat, he has to. Paul is the best player on the Pacers but he has less responsibilities. George is going to guard Lebron more than Lebron guards George this series. It'll be interesting.

KobeKenobi · Post #9 » by **KobeKenobi** » Sun May 18, 2014 10:49 pm

So after Game 1, I'd say it's a draw so far. Both PG and LBJ shooting at a high percentage. Lebron got more rebounds, and George got more assists. Lebron didn't get to put his stamp on the game I think, and George hit some timely shots when I thought Indiana could make a big run. But overall, as far as Game 1 goes, PG is Lebron's equal, with both guys displaying the complete game.

Game 1: Draw

Robertchk · Post #10 » by **Robertchk** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:55 pm

This is a team game and Lebron is the most dominant TEAM player in the history of this game. LOVE PG, BUT he is nowhere near Lebron at anything.. Lebron does what he WANTS to, PG does what he CAN do.

KobeKenobi · Post #11 » by **KobeKenobi** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:37 pm

Game 2 goes to Lebron I think even when taking into account Paul George's concussion

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KobeKenobi · Post #12 » by **KobeKenobi** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:42 pm

Beffiosa wrote:
KobeKenobi wrote:It would be nice to see PG attack Lebron more this series and just take it strong if he is guarding him. As far as FG% goes, I don't think Lebron is a better shooter, he just uses his size and rams his body in there to get easy twos. He has more of a size advantage than a skill advantage.

Lebron James
at the rim 78.3%
3-9 feet 60.0%
10-15 feet 40%
16-23 feet 46.0%

Paul George
at the rim 63.6%
3.9 feet 26.5
10-15 feet 34.5
16-23 feet 37.0%

Not sure if u only watch Lebron play when he plays Indiana but his jumper is very good and that is why he is able to have a 57FG% while going to the rim less than he did while in Cleveland
Do you realize passing, ball handling are also skills? There is a reason why Lebron's Cavs were top 3 in offense almost every yr even with limited talent and Miami has been a top 1 or 2 offense each yr Lebron has been in Miami. Pacers is one of the worse offensive teams in the NBA with Paul george as their leader because he just not a talented offensive player. He's one of my favorite player in the league but it anyone who says George is close to being as skilled don't know basketball. If he was as skilled he would be the primary ball handler since the PG not reliable or he would be creating shots for his teammates in an offense that can become real hard to watch at times.

BTW all stat info posted above can be found on sites like hoopdata etc

Pg is as skilled he just can't be efficient as lebron because he doesn't have lebrons size and strength to get in the paint like lebron. I don't think lbj's footwork is great at all. He travels all the time and it's never called. I know it's the nba but still.

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Tave · Post #13 » by **Tave** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:43 am

LOL, "skills" aren't an on-off proposition, they're placed on a sliding scale. Paul George most definitely has some skill handling the ball, running the offense, and passing, but he isn't nearly as good at it as Lebron.

EuroPacer · Post #14 » by **EuroPacer** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:53 am

PG still has a lot of development to go through, too often he disappears on offense when he is completely focussed on defense, he needs to be able to do work on both sides before I consider him a 'super-star'.

Good thing is, he is developing, he is getting a better basketball mind, he is able to hit shots under pressure and he is still young. Give PG 2 more years and he will be considered one of the great players in the league.

LesGrossman · Post #15 » by **LesGrossman** » Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm

Robertchk wrote:This is a team game and Lebron is the most dominant TEAM player in the history of this game.

Don't get me wrong but...for how long have you been watching "this game"? Can you back that claim up somehow?