2014 NBA EC Finals: IND (1) vs MIA (2)

[runlikehell]

37 FTA to 13 FTA, but Heat fans can never complain.

They can't?

This thread sure fooled me

Says the raptors fan.

[runlikehell]

Looking forward to a motivated Lebron in G2.

[SlowPaced]

Gosh, it's like nobody even watched the game. You can't just show FT disparity and claim it's unfair officiating. It's false logic. Maybe a couple of arguable to bad calls, MAYBE 4 to 6 more points that the Heat would get. How does that win them the game?

That false logic applies to every single Heat game where they have more FT attempts.

[bostonHEATparty]

Heat loses, you know what's next

It's what makes it fun. Being on the edge of your seat, angry, sad, happy, sadistic, on a possession by possession basis.

[BooRadley]

The Pacers played out of their minds tonight. Had nothing to do with FTs.

One play in the 4th Wade leaked out and ALL five Pacers made it down the court and made him lose the ball. If that was Miami they would've just given up on that play. Pacers didn't take a single possession off all game other than Lance's terrible three point chuck in the 4th. I guess hatred for a team can translate into amazing play.

[FinnTheHuman]

Gosh, it's like nobody even watched the game. You can't just show FT disparity and claim it's unfair officiating. It's false logic. Maybe a couple of arguable to bad calls, MAYBE 4 to 6 more points that the Heat would get. How does that win them the game?

That false logic applies to every single Heat game where they have more FT attempts.

Which makes you use the same argument even tho you think it's false?

[mswenson]

the 3 pt swing on watsons offensive foul made no comeback possible. not even a flagrant either. guy was trying to score for an and 1 still and he fouled the arm with the ball in it. Just because watson is 5 foot tall and lebron is 7 ft tall doesn't mean a tap is a flagrant foul

[Q00]

Its not the 13 for Miami that is curious to me as much as the 37 by Indiana.

I agree that Miami took a lot of jumpshots, but so did Indiana. It didn't look to me like Indiana was attacking the basket any more than Miami. It just seemed like one team was allowed to play physical defense and the other got whistled every time they tried.

I'm not bias to either team. That was just my take watching this game.

[Bleeding Blue]

the 3 pt swing on watsons offensive foul made no comeback possible. not even a flagrant either. guy was trying to score for an and 1 still and he fouled the arm with the ball in it

Not a flagrant? Your fanhood is blinding you.

[NBABoom]

Another thing, Thunder/Pacers were a finals matchup possibilty in everyone's mind earlier in the year. There was even a thread with a poll asking who would likely win. Thunder led that poll by a huge margin, but Ibaka played a huge part in peoples' arguments. If these two teams meet in the Finals, would the Thunder still be favored? Not overreacting to one game, just wondering..

No. The Pacers would be favored, even if Ibaka plays. Indy is the better team defensively and
have enough offensive firepower as a team to make up for Kevin Durant being the NBA's best scorer.


Great win today Indy. You guys are now favored to win the series.

The Heat are done if this game is any indication.

[Archerbro]

the 3 pt swing on watsons offensive foul made no comeback possible. not even a flagrant either. guy was trying to score for an and 1 still and he fouled the arm with the ball in it. Just because watson is 5 foot tall and lebron is 7 ft tall doesn't mean a tap is a flagrant foul

You can't push a guy midair that much, it's just dangerous because of the potential after they land.

that'd be a flagrant on any player who did it.

[BooRadley]

Gosh, it's like nobody even watched the game. You can't just show FT disparity and claim it's unfair officiating. It's false logic. Maybe a couple of arguable to bad calls, MAYBE 4 to 6 more points that the Heat would get. How does that win them the game?

That false logic applies to every single Heat game where they have more FT attempts.

You're delusional if you think it's false. JJ vs Lebron in the nets series, this was almost a completely different SPORT compared to the show the refs put on in that series.

And 2006, where you were handed a championship. Go ahead and compare this game to that series. Heat got out played. Terribly terribly outplayed. Give the Pacers some freaking credit.

[JVL]

Its not the 13 for Miami that is curious to me as much as the 37 by Indiana.

I agree that Miami took a lot of jumpshots, but so did Indiana. It didn't look to me like Indiana was attacking the basket any more than Miami. It just seemed like one team was allowed to play physical defense and the other got whistled every time they tried.

I'm not bias to either team. That was just my take watching this game.

That's also what it felt like to me. Miami was slashing a lot in the first half of the game and settled for jumpers more after the break. Meanwhile, didn't really feel like the Pacers went inside all that much. A lot of West his shots were turnaround hook shots and Hill had some drives. Meanwhile, I think basically all of Wade and Bron their points came at or near the rim, Chalmers cut inside for funky layups far too often.

It just felt off, Pacers got away with more than they should.

[cjcfman]

Never thought i'd see the day when a Power Foward can guard Ray Allen

[Archerbro]

Its not the 13 for Miami that is curious to me as much as the 37 by Indiana.

I agree that Miami took a lot of jumpshots, but so did Indiana. It didn't look to me like Indiana was attacking the basket any more than Miami. It just seemed like one team was allowed to play physical defense and the other got whistled every time they tried.

I'm not bias to either team. That was just my take watching this game.

also Hibbert took like 13 FTS

and they were almost all fouls, I don't know how you can dispute it. Maybe one possible haslem foul, that's it.

[infinite11285]

Enough blame to go around for why the Heat lost but I think Miami's defense at the backcourt was the biggest reason. Chalmers and Wade were shredded defensively. They allowed a ton of penetration which put Miami's frontcourt in precarious situations all night. That problem is extrapolated by the fact that Miami is much smaller than the Pacers. It's no surprise Miami committed so many fouls. The backcourt also went under screens and picks which allowed the Pacers to torch Miami from 3. Miami has to change their defensive philosophy of living with the opposing team taking 3 point shots.

Bosh is the second largest reason why Miami lost. This is pretty self-explanatory. He did nothing on either side of the ball.

Spo's stubborn, enigmatic rotations is the third reason. Starting Shane, who has done nothing all year is inexcusable and put Miami at an immediate disadvantage. Subbing Shane out for James Jones also made no sense to me. The two guard lineup of Chalmers at the 1, Cole at the 2, and Ray Allen at 3 (to guard David West) while in a double digit hole is insanity. Miami has 2 capable bigger bodies to throw at West and Hibbert but Spo will be too stubborn to make that adjustment. The Pacers have hung their hat on pounding the Heat in the paint for years and I've yet to see Spo make an adjustment to prevent that.

[6rings4LeClutch]

That team that struggled against the Hawks and Wizards will eventually show up.

[spectacularmove]

The big question: Will Lebron attack in G2 or will he keep taking care of that beatiful efficiency?

[Johnny Firpo]

I really think the Pacers played a very smart game, and did not foul much. They've ran off the shooters and funneled them into the paint, but for some reason, Miami did not attack the rim from there, instead they've took a lot of bad shots. Contested threes and mid range shots.

Lebron and Wade actually played very well, if you tell me before the game that Wade and James will score 52 points on 63% shooting, i would have been sure the Heat won the game comfortably.

Instead they lost easily, because the Pacers did an awesome job shutting the role players down, and basically giving up 2 open threes during the game. I made a bet on the Pacers, i was sure they were going to come out ready, but i'm probably going to make a bet on the Heat next game. I don't think the Pacers' role players can duplicate the shooting display they showed today.

[qm22]

Miami (or Spo) set themselves up for failure. They didn't do anything to make Indiana adjust to their strengths and have been awful (for the 3rd straight year) in minimizing the impact of Indiana's bigs. Washington and Atlanta showed a rational strategy and Spo comes out with Battier on West. Meanwhile Miami's offense was hesitant. They didn't take what the defense gave them, they tried to force certain plays they pre-planned and not adapt. This was evident in the way that Miami's offense looked the best during iso's of Wade/James or fastbreaks and broken play opportunities.

Miami could easily lose if they don't change their game plan.