KLOVE wants out, Rox should get him at any cost.

Jaykoolzboy · Post #1 » by **Jaykoolzboy** » Mon May 19, 2014 12:58 am

Imagine a team with KLove + Dwight , basketball porn comes true.

Dwight Howard
Kevin Love
Shane Battier or some veteran D and 3 guys (parson is gone if we get Klove)
Harden
Beverly

Talking about balance O and D . Can't wait. True BIG 3

MaxRider · Post #2 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:40 am

at any cost?
let's trade haren for love

MaxRider · Post #3 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:46 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lrhc9xe

Houston <-- Kevin Love
Minnesota <-- Terrence Jones, Rockets first round pick, Celtics first round pick
Boston <-- Asik (use Paul Pierce trade exception)

MKL · Post #4 » by **MKL** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:52 am

The problem is no other team is going to take pieces to help HOU get Love.

Boston has a better chance of getting Love for themselves.

For HOU to get Love, it's going to wreck the team FIRE SALE. I would say at least 3 first round pick, or Harden. The rest would be fillers like Asik + Lin that the Wolves will have to trade away later.

In addition, Love would be rental, he still has 1 more year on his contract. Remember what happened to Dwight at LA?

MaxRider · Post #5 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:59 am

MKL wrote:The problem is no other team is going to take pieces to help HOU get Love.

Boston has a better chance of getting Love for themselves.

For HOU to get Love, it's going to wreck the team FIRE SALE. I would say at least 3 first round pick, or Harden. The rest would be fillers like Asik + Lin that the Wolves will have to trade away later.

In addition, Love would be rental, he still has 1 more year on his contract. Remember what happened to Dwight at LA?

because lakers is confident dwight will re-sign because they are lakers
no one will trade for love without the extension

MKL · Post #6 » by **MKL** » Mon May 19, 2014 2:06 am

Love had a good team at Minny. They had Rubio, Pek + role players. Adelman was an okay coach.

If Love end up at HOU, it's going to be Love + Dwight, that's it. Lets say Morey engineer a miracle and not having to trade Harden. Love is a douchebag that blames everyone when bad things happen. He also takes credit calling himself "best PF in the NBA".

Things can get real bad real fast... McHale is not going to have Lin to kick around and scapegoat.

I actually kind of want to see this happen. LOL.

MaxRider · Post #7 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 2:11 am

imagine morey trade haren for love

lin and love running pick and roll all day

BaYBaller · Post #8 » by **BaYBaller** » Mon May 19, 2014 2:23 am

I don't think we need to trade Harden for Love because MIN has no leverage really. They pretty much have to trade him or he will walk for nothing.

Sounds like he wants to go to a big market or a contender. What other contender out there can create the cap to sign him other than us? Another X-Factor here is McHale's relationship with Love.

90sAllDecade · Post #9 » by **90sAllDecade** » Mon May 19, 2014 3:36 am

Morey won't trade Harden, he's 24 and will improve. Many star players struggled with defense early in their careers. He's still the best SG in the league even with his flaws, he can only get better with time.

Love isn't great defensively either although I of course, absolutely want to get him.

We have Parsons, Asik, Lin, T. Jones and a first round pick to work with. It's a tougher road, but Morey could potentially get a third team involved to get him.

MaxRider · Post #10 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 3:56 am

90sAllDecade wrote:Morey won't trade Harden, he's 24 and will improve. Many star players struggled with defense early in their careers. He's still the best SG in the league even with his flaws, he can only get better with time.

Love isn't great defensively either although I of course, absolutely want to get him.

We have Parsons, Asik, Lin, T. Jones and a first round pick to work with. It's a tougher road, but Morey could potentially get a third team involved to get him.

minnesota don't need asik and lin

Jaykoolzboy · Post #11 » by **Jaykoolzboy** » Mon May 19, 2014 4:18 am

MaxRider wrote:
90sAllDecade wrote:Morey won't trade Harden, he's 24 and will improve. Many star players struggled with defense early in their careers. He's still the best SG in the league even with his flaws, he can only get better with time.

Love isn't great defensively either although I of course, absolutely want to get him.

We have Parsons, Asik, Lin, T. Jones and a first round pick to work with. It's a tougher road, but Morey could potentially get a third team involved to get him.

minnesota don't need asik and lin

That's why he said "potentially get a third team involved to get him"

MKL · Post #12 » by **MKL** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:17 am

Why stop at 3rd team, why not 6th or 7th?

Can you give me a scenario that Lakers, Celtics, or Suns willing to help HOU free cap space to get Love?

Again, as Max pointed out, Minny doesn't want Lin or Asik. For the trade to happen, Minny will ask for more picks to take on Lin and Asik's contract so they can dump them off.

Minny also has plenty of leverage, it's called a player contract. They have to trade Love, but they don't have to trade him to HOU though. If Love pushes the issue, he's going to get killed by the media for being a trouble maker. Say good bye to his career. The guy has NEVER been in a playoff game and he is injury prone too.

He is the hot girl in the off season, but when money is on the the line, Love is not the Alpha dog. He is a #2.

MaxRider · Post #13 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:25 am

love never lead his team to playoff and because of his injured history i rather have melo than love
melo is more vocal leader exactly what this team need
if love is just here to be stretch four then we can just trade for ryan anderson
last thing you want is some statpadder taking rebound away from howard

BaYBaller · Post #14 » by **BaYBaller** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:29 am

When I said MIN doesn't have that much leverage in negotiations I didn't mean that HOU does, I meant that it is Love who has the leverage. Love only has value if he agrees to resign a long term contract with his new respective club, and from reports there are only a handful of clubs that he would be willing to do so. Whether HOU is one of those clubs, and whether we can free up the necessary cap space and offer attractive enough assets to entice MIN is the question. We always look at the simplest answers but the vast majority of the time these blockbuster trades are much more complex multi-team trades.

BaYBaller · Post #15 » by **BaYBaller** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:31 am

MaxRider wrote:love never lead his team to playoff and because of his injured history i rather have melo than love
melo is more vocal leader exactly what this team need
if love is just here to be stretch four then we can just trade for ryan anderson
last thing you want is some statpadder taking rebound away from howard

You'd have to really think about it. What if we could get Milsap, which would allow us to resign Parsons for 10-12M. People don't realize if we do get another max contract player Parsons is pretty much gone.

MaxRider · Post #16 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:44 am

BaYBaller wrote:
MaxRider wrote:love never lead his team to playoff and because of his injured history i rather have melo than love
melo is more vocal leader exactly what this team need
if love is just here to be stretch four then we can just trade for ryan anderson
last thing you want is some statpadder taking rebound away from howard

You'd have to really think about it. What if we could get Milsap, which would allow us to resign Parsons for 10-12M. People don't realize if we do get another max contract player Parsons is pretty much gone.

morey wants a real 3rd superstar
not parsons
he will not get 10-12m per year from morey
unless morey really ran out of option
remember howard only signed 3 years
morey basically has less than 1.5 years to get this team ready to compete for title
he will try whatever he can to get the 3rd superstar
because that he's best bet
he can't waste time waiting for players to develop

ALPHAandOMEGA · Post #17 » by **ALPHAandOMEGA** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:23 pm

Parsons isn't the answer. He is a nice player but not worth passing on a legit star. Parsons quit playing defense, has a streaky shot, and isnt a "go to" player. When faced with the decision to retain Parsons or aquire a superstar or even fringe superstar Morey will pack Parsons bags for him. If Parsons still played defense like he used to 10mil would be a stretch but with how he has been playing plus his health issues he should recieve 7-8mil/year.

MaxRider · Post #18 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 2:43 pm

ALPHAandOMEGA wrote:Parsons isn't the answer. He is a nice player but not worth passing on a legit star. Parsons quit playing defense, has a streaky shot, and isnt a "go to" player. When faced with the decision to retain Parsons or aquire a superstar or even fringe superstar Morey will pack Parsons bags for him. If Parsons still played defense like he used to 10mil would be a stretch but with how he has been playing plus his health issues he should recieve 7-8mil/year.

rumor boston was asking for parsons for rondo and morey rejected
i guess the package wasn't right
maybe he will do for love
when haren slacking off from d
we need a better defender at the 3
even hamilton is doing better than parsons (just don't let him handle the ball)
love+brewer for asik+parsons+tjones is a good star

Zubby · Post #19 » by **Zubby** » Mon May 19, 2014 3:48 pm

Like all other trades for stars, Minnesota will get capspace and drafts...
Send them Asik/Lin/Jones and all the draft picks this year.

Still might not be enough, they may request Parsons, in that case go for Melo.
Melo/Love are same size both will play 4, except Melo is a better defender & better scorer. Give up less & go for Melo.

1. Melo
2. Love
3. Rondo

MaxRider · Post #20 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 19, 2014 4:33 pm

Melo (6'6.25") and Love (6'7.75") are not same size
Love is about 1.5" taller w/o shoes and 2" taller w/ shoes (i'm not sure what shoes Love is wearing)
but Melo has longer wingspan so their standing reach is only half inch difference
Love defense and injured history scare me
sure he is better shooter and will be the stretch four Howard been wanted for him to get more space to post up
but face it Howard post up suck
Melo is way better post up player than Howard
but Melo can't play PF full-time
even LeBron can't keep up with West (they are both in same size)
Dolan wanted Lin before
but now PJax is in charge (we know he isn't 100% in charge)
if Dolan really like Lin then he can force it
however they will not want Asik they already have Chandler
but we have to include Asik+Lin to match Melo salary
we're going have to find a 3rd team to take Asik
we know Boston is interesting in Asik
they have trade exception to take it
if Dolan wanted Lin bad
best case scenario is
Meo -> Houston
Lin+Parson+pick -> New York
Asik -> Boston

C - Howard, D-Mo
PF - Jones, Casspi
SF - Melo, Covington
SG - Haren, Daniels
PG - Beverley, Canaan

yes our bench will be worse but it isn't any worse than what we have now
come on Portland bench is worse than ours and they beat us because they have better starting 5
you only put 5 on the court anyway