Invictus88 wrote:rmfc wrote:Spider156 wrote:You know you can hate all you want but If we were to get the Top 3 pick, Dumars would've actually MADE this team a dynasty. I would give him all the credit to the major players the he brought in.
Brought in via the draft, you mean, I'm sure.
Yes. Monroe and Drummond were home runs. I have some hope for KCP. I think he will be fine if and when he starts to get "it". Knight was a flop, though. Kawhi Leonard (or Klay) would have made sooooo much sense but Dumars loved Tay way too much.
We haven't had a good rookie pick besides those two since Prince in 2002 (before he played too many games and looked like an old man). And even that is just law of averages -- pick enough players with long arms and one is bound to be good.
Here is the complete list of players that Dumars has drafted since Tayshaun:
Darko Milicic
Carlos Delfino
Andreas Glyniadakis
Rickey Paulding
Jason Maxiell
Amir Johnson
Alex Acker
Will Blalock
Rodney Stuckey
Arron Afflalo
Sammy Mejia
D.J. White
Deron Washington
Austin Daye
DaJuan Summers
Jonas Jerebko
Chase Budinger
Greg Monroe
Terrico White
Brandon Knight
Kyle Singler
Vernon Macklin
Andre Drummond
Khris Middleton
Kim English
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Tony Mitchell
Peyton Siva
A blind man could have made the Monroe and Drummond picks. Both of them slid so far down that it was ridiculous they were still on the board when the Pistons' pick came around. Take those two off the list and there's virtually no one worth having on an NBA roster, let alone a starter. (excluding last year's class because the jury is still out due to the cluster**** that was last season).
Even those that you could make a case for (e.g. Afflalo, Middleton maybe?) were traded away.
Giving credit for the Pistons getting a top 3 pick this year would be like giving consolation ribbons away for participation at a science fair. The kids (in this case Dumars) clearly didn't do anything to earn an award besides showing up to the thing. And last time I checked the NBA Lottery wasn't something that was possible for a bad team to miss.
I think for context you just can't list "who", but need to add "when", as in "which draft pick were they?". Without this, it is hard to say if these were good picks or not. Amir Johnson? He was the 56th pick in the draft. That was an awesome pick. Stuckey, Afflalo, Budinger all seem like legit picks to me as well, and all are certainly worth having on an NBA roster.
so true