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2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II

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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1861 » by BeesWax » Wed May 21, 2014 2:11 am

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Fischella wrote:Staukas is going to be Belinelli like, if you want to spend a 9th on that... good for you
You can pick a really good SG in the late first, the position is pretty deep in this class.
There is no way you pick Stauskas ahead of McDermott, Young or Gary Harris.

I'd take any of those guys over Harris, he is small and injury prone....and i can easily see Nik being the next Klay Thompson

You mean without Thompson length and athleticism?

They are not really similar at all, Stauskas is more of a playmaker, and a worse scorer overall, he will be a liability on D, while Klay is a terrific defender.

Stauskas is similar to Belinelli and he looks like a 6th man to me.
He does not have enough speed/athleticism to create off the dribble in the NBA on a daily basis, he will be anice rotation player, but he is not a lottery prospect.

He did out jump and ran the same as Klay at the combine. They seem to be closer than you think at least numbers wise. I think he is a better athlete than people think.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1862 » by JDR720 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:11 am

Fischella wrote:
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Fischella wrote:Staukas is going to be Belinelli like, if you want to spend a 9th on that... good for you
You can pick a really good SG in the late first, the position is pretty deep in this class.
There is no way you pick Stauskas ahead of McDermott, Young or Gary Harris.

I'd take any of those guys over Harris, he is small and injury prone....and i can easily see Nik being the next Klay Thompson

You mean without Thompson length and athleticism?

They are not really similar at all, Stauskas is more of a playmaker, and a worse scorer overall, he will be a liability on D, while Klay is a terrific defender.

Stauskas is similar to Belinelli and he looks like a 6th man to me.
He does not have enough speed/athleticism to create off the dribble in the NBA on a daily basis, he will be anice rotation player, but he is not a lottery prospect.


Nik has a 6-8 wingspan, Klay has a 6-9 wingspan, Nik also has a 35.5 inch vertical, Klay had a 31.5 inch...so Nik is a better athlete overall probably, he definitely isn't worse and his role will be to shoot threes and make them something he is very good at doing
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1863 » by catch20two » Wed May 21, 2014 2:12 am

nickforthreee wrote:In my opinion Charlotte should either draft James Young or trade for Jeremy Lamb. Combine either of them with Kemba & Al for a really nice and balanced core.

Yeah buddy.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1864 » by No-Man » Wed May 21, 2014 2:12 am

Have you watched Marco play? he was damn athletic at Stauskas age, actually a little bit better as a one foot leaper, and way better at finishing near the rim.
He also had a better frame.

Try to find an in game dunk of Stauskas similar to these ones,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMWinahxKpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXTk8Go7u4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgrI6assLow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au5KjHl3Z48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-zHZBgI8Y

And while being a good ball handler, Stauskas is not even close to Belinelli level, he had play full PG with Italy many times.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1865 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed May 21, 2014 2:13 am

Stauskas is just fine athletically. Hes actually a pretty damn good athlete to be honest. That combined with the fact that he can create off the dribble at a decent level and can shoot lights out from deep?

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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1866 » by No-Man » Wed May 21, 2014 2:13 am

The combine means nothing, in-game athleticism is what matters, Stauskas got cement feet, his lateral quickness is SF type, not SG.
Thompson got impecable footwork and pretty good agility.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1867 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:14 am

This should be a no-brainer for the Hornets. It has to be James Young or Zach LaVine, whichever player impress Cho the most during pre-draft workouts
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1868 » by catch20two » Wed May 21, 2014 2:15 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:This should be a no-brainer for the Hornets. It has to be James Young or Zach LaVine, whichever player impress Cho the most during pre-draft workouts

I can't lie. Lavine would look sharp in a purple and teal Hornets jersey. That sh*t would be pretty.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1869 » by JDR720 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:17 am

Stauskas is known mostly as a lights-out shooter...but his Combine performance shows he can do more than just that. Not only did Stauskas measure in as the third tallest shooting guard in shoes at 6'6.5", he had the 5th best max vertical (35.5") and shuttle time (2.92), and the second best lane agility time among shooting guards. Stauskas will no doubt be primarily a shooter in the NBA, but these athletic results show he is very capable of defending the perimeter and staying in front of his man on the other end of the court as well.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1870 » by Bassman » Wed May 21, 2014 2:19 am

Fischella wrote:The combine means nothing, in-game athleticism is what matters, Stauskas got cement feet, his lateral quickness is SF type, not SG.
Thompson got impecable footwork and pretty good agility.


Exactly. In this draft you must, MUST, make picks for people who can play in the league...not shine in a drill.

Get the most talented player who is built for the NBA and run with him. Or try to trade up to get that player. But this time Cho, just say no to projects (Biz) or workout measurable wonders (Cody). We need an athletic player who can shoot and score, preferably with some defensive game too.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1871 » by No-Man » Wed May 21, 2014 2:21 am

Again, if Cho wants to play it safe, my bet is on Doug, and MJ seems to like well known college bball guys anyway.

Doug at 9 and the best SG left at 24, plus an euro in the 2nd round is a pretty good draft.

Young at 9, plus whoever is there as a comboforward at 24, and an euro in the 2nd is also okay.

I guess TJ Warren could be there at 24 too.

Even a PG, like Ennis, who could fall to the tweenties easily, or Payton/Napier, could make sense.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1872 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:22 am

Fischella wrote:The combine means nothing, in-game athleticism is what matters, Stauskas got cement feet, his lateral quickness is SF type, not SG.
Thompson got impecable footwork and pretty good agility.


Stauskas isn't a stiff. He has agility, ball handling ability, and moves. The thing about Stauskas though to me is that he's more of a point guard than a shooting guard, which isn't a bad thing. I just think he's one of those guards that need the ball in his hands, and that wouldn't fit into Charlotte's grand scheme of things to entrust him with the ball

Stauskas will make for a great combo guard off the bench his first few years in the league. I like him as a prospect, but not for this Hornets team
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1873 » by LofJ » Wed May 21, 2014 2:22 am

Stauskas, Lavine, and Young are all good prospects. We finally got lucky, we're in a good place with the talent that will be available at 9.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1874 » by No-Man » Wed May 21, 2014 2:25 am

Most interesting scenario for me will be, get McDermott at 9, get Ennis/Napier/Payton at 24, sign Stephenson.
An euro with the 2nd round pick.
Re-sign McBob, maybe CDR, Ridnour and Tolliver for the minimun.

Walker-Ennis/Napier/Payton-Ridnour
Stephenson-Henderson-Neal
MKG-McDermott-Taylor/CDR
Zeller-McRoberts-Tolliver
Jefferson-Biyombo-Haywood

Pretty well balanced team.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1875 » by BeesWax » Wed May 21, 2014 2:27 am

I will say I was 100% against Napier at 24 before but now I would not mind. We could keep constant high speed pressure defense on with those two running PG. Lessen Kemba's minutes and increase his speed some.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1876 » by BeesWax » Wed May 21, 2014 2:28 am

Fischella wrote:Most interesting scenario for me will be, get McDermott at 9, get Ennis/Napier/Payton at 24, sign Stephenson.
An euro with the 2nd round pick.
Re-sign McBob, maybe CDR, Ridnour and Tolliver for the minimun.

Walker-Ennis/Napier/Payton-Ridnour
Stephenson-Henderson-Neal
MKG-McDermott-Taylor/CDR
Zeller-McRoberts-Tolliver
Jefferson-Biyombo-Haywood

Pretty well balanced team.

If we do that leave McRoberts in the starting lineup and use Napier or another PG to get that second unit moving. Running with Henderson, Zeller, Biz and McDermott would be great for our second unit.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1877 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:29 am

#9 - James Young or Zach LaVine

#24 - Kyle Anderson or Jarnell Stokes

2nd rounder - Jordan Clarkson (3rd string PG; replace Jannero Pargo)

Sign a veteran backup PG - TBD

Re-sign CDR

I'm uncertain if re-signing Josh McRoberts is a 'must' at the moment
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1878 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:31 am

jdm3 wrote:I will say I was 100% against Napier at 24 before but now I would not mind. We could keep constant high speed pressure defense on with those two running PG. Lessen Kemba's minutes and increase his speed some.


Napier will go before #24 to Minnesota (#13), Boston (#17), or Memphis (#22)
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1879 » by BeesWax » Wed May 21, 2014 2:34 am

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jdm3 wrote:I will say I was 100% against Napier at 24 before but now I would not mind. We could keep constant high speed pressure defense on with those two running PG. Lessen Kemba's minutes and increase his speed some.


Napier will go before #24 to Minnesota (#13), Boston (#17), or Memphis (#22)

Maybe. Then I can go with Ennis.
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Re: 2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II 

Post#1880 » by LofJ » Wed May 21, 2014 2:34 am

Lavine weighs 181 lbs, so he won't be sharing the court much at all with Kemba this year if we draft him. Stauskas is at 206 and Young at 213, so they'd both be able to get on the court with the starters earlier. When people say Lavine is a project they're right. He needs to put on at least 20 pounds before he's ready for heavy minutes in the NBA.

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