Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[Wonka]

Draft express has a Smart vs Wiggins video out. #stillwantSmart

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/And ... ysis-4553/

At #2? That's ridiculous.

Yeah that is one of the more absurd things I have heard on here in awhile.

[LUKE23]

I'm not a Jabari fan but it has to be him or Wiggins at 2. I have Exum as my number 2 player but I understand we can't take him there.

I'm confused here. If you believe Exum to be BPA, why do you take Parker? It's not like we don't have a need at PG either. Is it for marketing or something?

[crkone]

I think Hammond cannot mess up on the pick (hopefully) but given his abysmal track record on trades (many of which are trades to get rid of past mistakes), I have no confidence, none/zero/zilch, that he can pull off any trades that will benefit this team. A good/great GM has to be able to draft/trade/sign the right free agents.

Hammond is simply over his head when he deals with other GM's or agents. Kohl may have given the win now order but signing Gooden, what we got for Bogut, etc... are on Hammond.

As long as he doesn't trade for/sign vets, I think we'll be okay.

[VooDoo7]

Do the people that think Embiid will bust think he will do so because of injury or lack of talent?

I think the only way he busts is from injury. That's it.

Hopefully that doesn't happen.

[Baddy Chuck]

For the people who have Smart high on their boards (like not clearly below the perceived top 4), how do you compare him to Oladipo? Where would you have Oladipo on your board this year, with and without his NBA stint already considered? For me, I like both players but clearly in that second tier prospects who though they may do all the right little things, clearly aren't and don't have the potential to help turn around a franchise.

[jakecronus8]

I'm not a Jabari fan but it has to be him or Wiggins at 2. I have Exum as my number 2 player but I understand we can't take him there.

I'm confused here. If you believe Exum to be BPA, why do you take Parker? It's not like we don't have a need at PG either. Is it for marketing or something?

Pretty much. This is an important pick just as much for public perception as it is basketball. In a game dominated by dynamic wings, there are two nationally known ones in this draft. This is why I don't think Embiid will be considered at 2 either. If we have our choice of the two it'll be Wiggins (doubtful). If Wiggins goes number 1 it'll be Parker (likely).

Not saying I agree with it, but I get it. That's why a part of me was hoping if we didn't get 1 we would get 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have to justify taking Exum, who IMO is going to be tremendous.

[jakecronus8]

For the people who have Smart high on their boards (like not clearly below the perceived top 4), how do you compare him to Oladipo? Where would you have Oladipo on your board this year, with and without his NBA stint already considered? For me, I like both players but clearly in that second tier prospects who though they may do all the right little things, clearly aren't and don't have the potential to help turn around a franchise.

Knowing what I know now, I'd have

Wiggins
Exum
Parker
Oladipo
Embiid
Smart

[jakecronus8]

Do the people that think Embiid will bust think he will do so because of injury or lack of talent?

I think the only way he busts is from injury. That's it.

Hopefully that doesn't happen.

I think it's 75% injury, and 25% being overblown as a prospect.

[breakchains]

I'm not a Jabari fan but it has to be him or Wiggins at 2. I have Exum as my number 2 player but I understand we can't take him there.

I'm confused here. If you believe Exum to be BPA, why do you take Parker? It's not like we don't have a need at PG either. Is it for marketing or something?

Pretty much. This is an important pick just as much for public perception as it is basketball. In a game dominated by dynamic wings, there are two nationally known ones in this draft. This is why I don't think Embiid will be considered at 2 either. If we have our choice of the two it'll be Wiggins (doubtful). If Wiggins goes number 1 it'll be Parker (likely).

Not saying I agree with it, but I get it. That's why a part of me was hoping if we didn't get 1 we would get 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have to justify taking Exum, who IMO is going to be tremendous.

This is a miserable line of thinking that should get any GM canned on the spot if abided by.

[randy84]

Sounds like Embiid's agent doesn't want him in Milwaukee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... bron-home/

[SupremeHustle]

Embiid still numero uno on my board. Wiggins second. Parker third. No idea after that.

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[jakecronus8]

I'm confused here. If you believe Exum to be BPA, why do you take Parker? It's not like we don't have a need at PG either. Is it for marketing or something?

Pretty much. This is an important pick just as much for public perception as it is basketball. In a game dominated by dynamic wings, there are two nationally known ones in this draft. This is why I don't think Embiid will be considered at 2 either. If we have our choice of the two it'll be Wiggins (doubtful). If Wiggins goes number 1 it'll be Parker (likely).

Not saying I agree with it, but I get it. That's why a part of me was hoping if we didn't get 1 we would get 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have to justify taking Exum, who IMO is going to be tremendous.

This is a miserable line of thinking that should get any GM canned on the spot if abided by.

I agree but I can just hear it now. Casual f*cktard fans complaining how we passed on Parker for some foreign kid. Especially because Exum will be a project while Parker is easily the top ROTY candidate because of the almighty ppgz statistic.

[breakchains]

Pretty much. This is an important pick just as much for public perception as it is basketball. In a game dominated by dynamic wings, there are two nationally known ones in this draft. This is why I don't think Embiid will be considered at 2 either. If we have our choice of the two it'll be Wiggins (doubtful). If Wiggins goes number 1 it'll be Parker (likely).

Not saying I agree with it, but I get it. That's why a part of me was hoping if we didn't get 1 we would get 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have to justify taking Exum, who IMO is going to be tremendous.

This is a miserable line of thinking that should get any GM canned on the spot if abided by.

I agree but I can just hear it now. Casual f*cktard fans complaining how we passed on Parker for some foreign kid. Especially because Exum will be a project while Parker is easily the top ROTY candidate because of the almighty ppgz statistic.

I can see that too but if any GM actually makes picks with that in mind, they are not qualified for the job. Had Ted Thompson been that way, Aaron Rodgers would probably be a Viking today.

[jakecronus8]

Sounds like Embiid's agent doesn't want him in Milwaukee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... bron-home/

Moves Embiid up on my board. I love watching miserable ungrateful millionaires squirm.

[Wooderson]

Casuals being pissed off is the least of my concern. The rookie hype dies down after year 1 and from then on all that matters is landing the best player available. Those same fans will be whining about missing out on Exum/Embiid (if they end up being the best players) the same way fans still incorrectly lament "screwing up" the Dirk pick. Take whomever you think has the best shot at being the best player and live with the results.

[breakchains]

Sounds like Embiid's agent doesn't want him in Milwaukee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... bron-home/

That might be dated info from pre-lottery when people thought the Lakers might be in play. I think Embiid won't withhold info from the Bucks, but it is possible.

[randy84]

Sounds like Embiid's agent doesn't want him in Milwaukee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... bron-home/

That might be dated info from pre-lottery when people thought the Lakers might be in play. I think Embiid won't withhold info from the Bucks, but it is possible.

Don't forget that his mentor is Luc.

[theFireBlanket]

Pretty much. This is an important pick just as much for public perception as it is basketball. In a game dominated by dynamic wings, there are two nationally known ones in this draft. This is why I don't think Embiid will be considered at 2 either. If we have our choice of the two it'll be Wiggins (doubtful). If Wiggins goes number 1 it'll be Parker (likely).

Not saying I agree with it, but I get it. That's why a part of me was hoping if we didn't get 1 we would get 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have to justify taking Exum, who IMO is going to be tremendous.

This is a miserable line of thinking that should get any GM canned on the spot if abided by.

I agree but I can just hear it now. Casual f*cktard fans complaining how we passed on Parker for some foreign kid. Especially because Exum will be a project while Parker is easily the top ROTY candidate because of the almighty ppgz statistic.

We cannot worry about casual fans, they're only going to matter for the organization when they're actually winning. This is the beginning stage of building the championship caliber squad. If Lasry and Edens truly get it like Hammond has praised them for doing, then they'll pick the highest upside player available.

Giannis has received the favor of Milwaukeeans after the original 'WTF moment', due to all of the flashes of potential last season. Although he was a 15th selection, the f--ktards were still there. And they even made an appearance in spirit with the attitude that some of our regular more sophisticated posters took in response to his selection.

Exum will have his flashes to display in season one as well, to simmer down the less astute fans rage and turn it into interest.

[breakchains]

Sounds like Embiid's agent doesn't want him in Milwaukee.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... bron-home/

That might be dated info from pre-lottery when people thought the Lakers might be in play. I think Embiid won't withhold info from the Bucks, but it is possible.

Don't forget that his mentor is Luc.

Yeah, but that's hopefully where the new ownership pitch comes in. It's funny that Embiid's injury can actually be used in his favor. With any other prospect, you just take them. I hope the Bucks get "creative" and hire some former FBI Agent private investigators to get the info they need.

[SkilesTheLimit]

**** Embiid and/or Tellum.

I appreciated Larry Harris picking Yi and flicking off Dan Fegan in the process after trying to keep him away from MIL.

If I'm the Bucks, I don't even factor into my decision making process the player's preferences. It's who's the BPA? That's it.