Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[Max Green]

If Embiid & his agent is withholding his medical records from us a long with not letting our medical team check him out + not working out for us then I hope like hell we won't take him. I will be upset if we do.

[breakchains]

**** Embiid and/or Tellum.

I appreciated Larry Harris picking Yi and flicking off Dan Fegan in the process after trying to keep him away from MIL.

If I'm the Bucks, I don't even factor into my decision making process the player's preferences. It's who's the BPA? That's it.

The only problem is that they actually have a "weapon" in this game this time with those medical records. Whereas Wiggins/Parker/Exum don't. That's why we need to get the intel on the medical records one way or another, and then they lose all their leverage and we can take whomever we think is BPA.

[randy84]

If Embiid & his agent is withholding his medical records from us a long with not letting our medical team check him out + not working out for us then I hope like hell we won't take him. I will be upset if we do.

Embiid is my number one choice, but I agree. You would be blindly taking a guy with possible medical issues who doesn't want to be here anyways. Very risky.

[theFireBlanket]

**** Embiid and/or Tellum.

I appreciated Larry Harris picking Yi and flicking off Dan Fegan in the process after trying to keep him away from MIL.

If I'm the Bucks, I don't even factor into my decision making process the player's preferences. It's who's the BPA? That's it.

The only problem is that they actually have a "weapon" in this game this time with those medical records. Whereas Wiggins/Parker/Exum don't. That's why we need to get the intel on the medical records one way or another, and then they lose all their leverage and we can take whomever we think is BPA.

I'd try to engage him to find out why he's avoiding Milwaukee. While Embiid's an entirely different prospect from Yi, the thought of bringing in a player that's going to be lethargic about being in Milwaukee and ultimately f--king us over is not appealing in anyway. I don't care how high the potential is if that's the case.

There has to be potential for his stance to be changed, for selecting him to be favorable. Yi still had value in the league and look at what he fetched in a trade: Richard Jefferson. When teams know that player doesn't want to be in the situation they're forced into, they low ball the "kidnapper".

[Cold Crush 24]

I am hoping less and less for EmBogut and his EmBack problems. Unless we can get a solid sniff at him and his med records I would pass. Too much on the line to not get a really solid contributor at least.

[Mink Coat Mason]

My top five is Wiggins, Exum, Embiid, Vonleh and Parker.

I, like many on this board, have a good feeling about Exum. Although point guard is the deepest position in the league, the idea of adding Exum excites me. Just think of Exum and Giannis on the break... I think Exum could be a longer Tony Parker.

I also think that the Bucks deal Henson this summer, possibly on draft night. Hammond's comments on 1250 were interesting and Henson really is a one-trick pony. He has his one move and nothing else. If he doesn't take a step after this season, his value will plummet. I think you could get a decent first rounder for him right now. There is always a market for big men.

[Wooderson]

It's time to end the defeatist attitude in regards to prospects. Kohl is gone and hopefully with him in the notion that Milwaukee is a dead-end. Giannis's first impression of Edens/Lasry will hopefully be a microcosm of league-wide perception in the future.

http://www.nba.com/bucks/video/teams/bu ... ov-3277190

PP's post in the New Era thread about amenities was spot on.

New practice facility. New team plane. New or much bolstered training staff. All those things GAD would always report that Kohl went cheap on will be a great start towards shifting the perception of the players in the league towards Milwaukee. Those are the things we didn't see as fans, but the players spent a lot of time talking about.

[engelmartin]

Even if Embiid and his agents attempt to withhold medical stuff from us, you've gotta imagine another team in the top 4 would be willing to share. At some point there will be a leak, it would cost Embiid millions to slip 5 or 6 spots.

[Zeezprah]

i'm starting to warmup to parker if wiggins goes #1. no medical issues, no soap opera bs, and i think he'd bring a lot of versatility to the 3 and 4 positions with giannis.

just take the remainder of wiggins/parker and call it a day. big man class is stacked next year anyways.

[LedZepp007]

Exum seems like a prima Donna to me. I also worry about his lack of vertical athleticism. 34" doesn't cut it for me if you are wiry and plan on finishing at the rack in the NBA. Exum doesn't really play above the rim if you watch tape. What I like about Exum and Parker is that they are shot creators and reasonably efficient. Wiggins is not a shot creator. Shot creation is such an important skill to be a go to guy in the NBA, IMHO.

[ajb905]

Hambone on 920 AM right now.

I'm listening now, has he already been on? If so...do you have notes?

Nothing big, just saying the right things.

- 4 players at the top of the draft.
- Hasn't gotten any calls for #2. Does not expect to move it, but "never say never."
- Committed to building through the draft.
- Thinks we will get an all-star caliber player at our draft slot.
- Acknowledged that it takes multiple stars through the draft to contend, hopes to land one here and thinks we may have one or two other integral pieces already on the roster.
- Feels strongly that it is a new era for Bucks basketball. Has faith in the new ownership's ability to do what is necessary for success moving forward.

That's about it, I think. Like I said, he's just sticking to the script.

Think back when he first started and said building thru the draft and making trades was a better route. It only took 7 frickin years!

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[Bucks7rules]

Can Embiid become a elite superstar?

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[Baddy Chuck]

Can Embiid become a elite superstar?

[YouTube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=cn-dtrmh0nM[/youtube]

Pretty outdated.

[Ayt]

Bustbiid would be a mistake of epic proportions. I just dont see any way we take him considering everything surrounding him.

Come on, that was awful.

Embust

[Nowak008]

For the people who have Smart high on their boards (like not clearly below the perceived top 4), how do you compare him to Oladipo? Where would you have Oladipo on your board this year, with and without his NBA stint already considered? For me, I like both players but clearly in that second tier prospects who though they may do all the right little things, clearly aren't and don't have the potential to help turn around a franchise.

I can see why people would make that comparison, having said that, I think Smart is a much better prospect. Oladipo played SG in college and while he had some ball handling skills, he wasn't a PG. Speaking on behalf of the Smart fan club, we feel he will play PG on offense with the ability to guard multiple positions. Oladipo only averaged 2.1 ast per game as a Junior while Smart had 4.8 ast per game as a soph - not close at all. Plus Smart got to the line 5.9 times per game vs Oladipo's 3.6. I think the major difference between the two is I felt that Oladipo was more of a hustle player where as Smart has a much better feel for the game.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

At some point they will have to regulate these physicals and workouts. You can't make a guy take a physical and workout, but you can set rules saying he can't if it's not available to everyone. The NBA already had rules where players couldn't workout with draft prospects. I don't know why they can't say teams aren't allowed to workout the top prospects unless from the end of the college season til the draft if they don't do the combine or a public workout. If you take a physical, it has to be open to all teams. Have harsh draft picks penalties if teams don't follow it.

[Zeezprah]

honestly tonight i think i've made a complete change and would put parker #2 on my bb behind wiggins.

no health issues
a go-to scorer (one of the main reasons we suck)
high character
hype for milwaukee citizens/from rest of nba/more airtime?
from less than 2 hours from milwaukee
giannis and parker would be great for matchup flexibility
obviously you go BPA, but we need a wing more than a C too

wiggins first, parker second

get it done bone

[AussieBuck]

Alec Burks offense, Tony Allen on D. Could that be Smart?

[randy84]

For the people who have Smart high on their boards (like not clearly below the perceived top 4), how do you compare him to Oladipo? Where would you have Oladipo on your board this year, with and without his NBA stint already considered? For me, I like both players but clearly in that second tier prospects who though they may do all the right little things, clearly aren't and don't have the potential to help turn around a franchise.

I can see why people would make that comparison, having said that, I think Smart is a much better prospect. Oladipo played SG in college and while he had some ball handling skills, he wasn't a PG. Speaking on behalf of the Smart fan club, we feel he will play PG on offense with the ability to guard multiple positions. Oladipo only averaged 2.1 ast per game as a Junior while Smart had 4.8 ast per game as a soph - not close at all. Plus Smart got to the line 5.9 times per game vs Oladipo's 3.6. I think the major difference between the two is I felt that Oladipo was more of a hustle player where as Smart has a much better feel for the game.

I think even if Smart's shot doesn't improve, he will be an outstanding defender. That at least gives your team an identity. You become the Chicago Bulls. A team built around defending the rim and having a PG that can limit other PGs, even the elite ones.

I love Exum's length at the PG spot, but I don't think he is the defender that Smart is. Also, Exum has the same questions about his shot that Smart does and as people have mentioned, he has played against lesser talent.

If Smart could guard a 6'8" Wiggins very effectively, then I think at worse he is a defensive PG that can't shoot.

Besides, I am sick of watching our PGs chuck up shot after shot.

[Badgerlander]

really, Really, REALLY want another first to get Kyle Anderson

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... lamar-odom