Which prospect could fall to 9 and who replaces him?

MasterIchiro · Post #1 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu May 22, 2014 7:26 pm

I think most likely to fall out of most mocks top 8 is Aaron Gordon.

I think Saric could take his place. Or maybe Zach LaVine.

It's possible Aaron Gordon and obviously Gary Harris will be staring Cho in the face at 9.

Stun704 · Post #2 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 22, 2014 7:43 pm

Julius Randle could fall since so many players in his build failed or were underwhelming in the NBA in recent memory, Derrick WIlliams, Thomas Robinson, Anthony Bennett.. etc When will the next Larry Johnson finally come???

Post #3 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2014 7:45 pm

We are going to have a hell of a lot of draft related threads that are kind of all related to each other over the next two months, aren't we?

BlackOutBuzz · Post #4 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu May 22, 2014 8:17 pm

Are we assuming the top 8 is Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum, Randle, Smart, Vonleh, and Gordon?

Gordon seems most likely to fall out, and I think McDermott replaces him. Saric is also possible.

Nurkic doesn't get much discussion here, but he's a dark horse.

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vorbis · Post #5 » by **vorbis** » Thu May 22, 2014 8:22 pm

it will be interesting to see if a) any premiere prospects refuse to work out for Charlotte now that they're the supercool Hornets and not the bumbling Bobcats anymore, and b) if Charlotte will draft someone who didn't work out for them, which they historically have not done.

ARHornet · Post #6 » by **ARHornet** » Thu May 22, 2014 8:24 pm

Gordon or Randle are the most likely to fall, I'd lean towards Randle. McDermott or Saric are the most likely to get picked over them.

Bassman · Post #7 » by **Bassman** » Thu May 22, 2014 8:48 pm

I really am very wary of Gordon. An undersized 4 who has a very limited offensive game...no thank you. Not enamored with Randle if he falls either (which I doubt).

If we stay at 9, we will get an incomplete or flawed player regardless. I prefer signing Lance and picking whomever helps us here, or do the suggested trade down w/Orlando to get Afflalo, 12, and pick there.

MasterIchiro · Post #8 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu May 22, 2014 10:54 pm

This blog has Julius Randle dropping.

9. Charlotte Hornets - Nik Stauskas, G, Michigan

With various pending free agents at the guard positions, Nik Stauskas fills a void. It'll be difficult for them to pass on Doug McDermott and Julius Randle, but they like what they have in Cody Zeller and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Nik Stauskas is just a better fit and could soon be an upgrade over Gerald Henderson.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/5/21/57 ... don-randle

BlackOutBuzz · Post #9 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu May 22, 2014 11:08 pm

If Randle falls to 9 we should turn in the card as fast as Gettleman does.

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catch20two · Post #10 » by **catch20two** » Thu May 22, 2014 11:29 pm

If Randle fall to 9 then it's BYE BYE ZELLER! We would have to try to trade Zeller with #24 to move up and draft the best SG prospect.

Stun704 · Post #11 » by **Stun704** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:43 am

catch20two wrote:If Randle fall to 9 then it's BYE BYE ZELLER! We would have to try to trade Zeller with #24 to move up and draft the best SG prospect.

Imagine if we left the draft with Randle and Young

Liver_Pooty · Post #12 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:45 am

Randle is going to struggle mightily in my opinion.

catch20two · Post #13 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:49 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Randle is going to struggle mightily in my opinion.

He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

catch20two · Post #14 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:50 am

Stun704 wrote:
catch20two wrote:If Randle fall to 9 then it's BYE BYE ZELLER! We would have to try to trade Zeller with #24 to move up and draft the best SG prospect.

Imagine if we left the draft with Randle and Young

That would be a epic draft day. It would be better than the tanking years.

Liver_Pooty · Post #15 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:50 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Randle is going to struggle mightily in my opinion.

He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

Lol I doubt he will average 13 and 8 in 27 minutes his rookie year. So we will disagree on that big time.

BeesWax · Post #16 » by **BeesWax** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:53 am

Stun704 wrote:
catch20two wrote:If Randle fall to 9 then it's BYE BYE ZELLER! We would have to try to trade Zeller with #24 to move up and draft the best SG prospect.

Imagine if we left the draft with Randle and Young

I would hate it. Taking two bad PF in a row seems like a waste to me.

BeesWax · Post #17 » by **BeesWax** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:54 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Randle is going to struggle mightily in my opinion.

He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

If Randle is playing 27 minutes for us. Al got hurt and we are looking to get a top pick in the lottery again.

catch20two · Post #18 » by **catch20two** » Fri May 23, 2014 1:00 am

jdm3 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Randle is going to struggle mightily in my opinion.

He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

If Randle is playing 27 minutes for us. Al got hurt and we are looking to get a top pick in the lottery again.

How? Randle and Al play two different positions and Randle is 10x better than Zeller and likely better than McBob too.

Liver_Pooty · Post #19 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 23, 2014 1:06 am

catch20two wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
catch20two wrote:He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

If Randle is playing 27 minutes for us. Al got hurt and we are looking to get a top pick in the lottery again.

How? Randle and Al play two different positions and Randle is 10x better than Zeller and likely better than McBob too.

Randle is definitely not better than McRoberts, and I highly doubt he will be better than an improving Zeller in his sophomore year. Randle had a disappointing freshmen year in my opinion.

BeesWax · Post #20 » by **BeesWax** » Fri May 23, 2014 1:08 am

catch20two wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
catch20two wrote:He's not going to struggle like Zeller did. Randle is indeed going to struggle and won't be a breakaway star off the bat but he'll average 13 and 8 in about 27 minutes on middling efficiency and probably a lot of turnovers. But once he get it together he will be okay and definitely a legit starter in the league while Zeller might be a career backup energy guy.

If Randle is playing 27 minutes for us. Al got hurt and we are looking to get a top pick in the lottery again.

How? Randle and Al play two different positions and Randle is 10x better than Zeller and likely better than McBob too.

Randle is awful and the only way I see him playing that much is if we are out of the playoff picture. Randle can't compete against players his size or speed so I think the only way he is in is if we are forcing him in like we did Zeller early this year.