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Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux

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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1281 » by Dbloc123 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:30 pm

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Dbloc123 wrote:Ny trades tyson,felton,shump
receives Klove,Dwilliams

Sac trades #9, J thompson,j terry
receives tyson,shved,felton

Minny trades Klove,shved
receives #9,shump,J thompson,J terry



Re route D will and cash to phx for #14 take ennis

ennis
timmy
melo
love
(Defensive center)


and why does minnesota do that


Because love is leaving regardless so a top pick will help and they had reports before about getting rid of shved...
J.R. Smith's last-second whiff left the Knicks with a sixth straight loss. But J.R. would do it again. "I think we went with the best shot," he said.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1282 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Fri May 23, 2014 2:49 pm

Destructor wrote:I just stumbled across this...
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is he really worth the max to you guys? :o

This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1283 » by br7knicks » Fri May 23, 2014 3:23 pm

if knicks move shump, hardaway, chandler, earl via trade, why not go for ariza?

right now knicks are loaded at SG/SF, but i like a guy who will play perimeter defense. he's not coming off a good, slightly overhyped post season run like he did with the lakers, so he shouldn't demand more than the $7 million + that he is coming off of.

only problem is it will cut into 2015 plan. my only concern with that is a repeat of 2010
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1284 » by br7knicks » Fri May 23, 2014 3:26 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Destructor wrote:I just stumbled across this...
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is he really worth the max to you guys? :o

This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).



don't get me wrong, i'm not as high on melo as everyone else, but i agree that these stats are misleading. yeah he hasn't had a lot of playoff success, but it is a team game. now, someone expecting to get paid a ridiculous amount of money should come with a lot of success as well, but i see this stat differently. to me, this shows that melo has a lot of playoff experience, which i think is important to building a championship caliber team.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1285 » by Destructor » Fri May 23, 2014 3:35 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Destructor wrote:I just stumbled across this...
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is he really worth the max to you guys? :o

This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).

Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1286 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 23, 2014 3:44 pm

Destructor wrote:Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.


I'm not trying to make an excuse but lets be honest.

Melo's 1st year here

Amare and Billups played 1 game in that series vs Boston

Melo's 2nd year here

Tyson gets sick and was a no show, shumpert tore his acl, Lin was hurt. We went into the post season with Bibby and Baron Davis as our starting PG's.

Melo's 3rd year here

We made it to the second round and lost to the pacers (not a bad playoff showing)

There is a reason we were 1-8 those 1st two years. We had a terrible roster for the playoffs. Injuries and illnesses killed us with any chance to win. Putting those series as a knock on Melo is not fair IMO
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1287 » by DowNY » Fri May 23, 2014 4:06 pm

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Post#1288 » by Greenie » Fri May 23, 2014 6:16 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Destructor wrote:I just stumbled across this...
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is he really worth the max to you guys? :o

This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).

A bunch of those players on that list actually played for Karl too :lol:
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Post#1289 » by Greenie » Fri May 23, 2014 6:17 pm

DowNY wrote:Get me Smart or Exum or give me death.

So when's your funeral, or are we calling it a homegoing ceremony?
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1290 » by Greenie » Fri May 23, 2014 6:19 pm

Destructor wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Destructor wrote:I just stumbled across this...
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is he really worth the max to you guys? :o

This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).

Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.

I thought I told you goodbye.

Go home to Deebo.
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Post#1291 » by Greenie » Fri May 23, 2014 6:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Destructor wrote:Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.


I'm not trying to make an excuse but lets be honest.

Melo's 1st year here

Amare and Billups played 1 game in that series vs Boston

Melo's 2nd year here

Tyson gets sick and was a no show, shumpert tore his acl, Lin was hurt. We went into the post season with Bibby and Baron Davis as our starting PG's.

Melo's 3rd year here

We made it to the second round and lost to the pacers (not a bad playoff showing)

There is a reason we were 1-8 those 1st two years. We had a terrible roster for the playoffs. Injuries and illnesses killed us with any chance to win. Putting those series as a knock on Melo is not fair IMO

Baron went down the second year too.


Don't speak truth though... :banghead:
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1292 » by DowNY » Fri May 23, 2014 6:34 pm

greenhughes wrote:
DowNY wrote:Get me Smart or Exum or give me death.

So when's your funeral, or are we calling it a homegoing ceremony?

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Post#1293 » by Destructor » Sat May 24, 2014 1:20 am

greenhughes wrote:
Destructor wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:This just shows how misleading stats can be.

A better stat would be Karl's playoff record. GK was the "worst good" coach in league history. Had some really talented teams, that could get to the playoffs, but he was a horrible playoff coach. Unfortunately for Melo, he was stuck with GK for a large portion of his career, and Melo made Denver too good too quick, so they weren't able to draft any other top picks to join him (like what happened in OKC).

Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.

I thought I told you goodbye.

Go home to Deebo.

You must've missed the part where i didn't care :lol:
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Post#1294 » by Destructor » Sat May 24, 2014 1:21 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Destructor wrote:Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.


I'm not trying to make an excuse but lets be honest.

Melo's 1st year here

Amare and Billups played 1 game in that series vs Boston

Melo's 2nd year here

Tyson gets sick and was a no show, shumpert tore his acl, Lin was hurt. We went into the post season with Bibby and Baron Davis as our starting PG's.

Melo's 3rd year here

We made it to the second round and lost to the pacers (not a bad playoff showing)

There is a reason we were 1-8 those 1st two years. We had a terrible roster for the playoffs. Injuries and illnesses killed us with any chance to win. Putting those series as a knock on Melo is not fair IMO

If hes going to be paid the max he better be prepared to carry a team. He's going to be earning more than Lebron and Durant, think about that.
I do understand however that he means alot to your franchise.
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Post#1295 » by Greenie » Sat May 24, 2014 2:33 am

Destructor wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
Destructor wrote:Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.

I thought I told you goodbye.

Go home to Deebo.

You must've missed the part where i didn't care :lol:

You do care tho. That's why you clicked that quote button. I stay on your mind all of the time. Don't be afraid to admit it :wink:
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Post#1296 » by Greenie » Sat May 24, 2014 2:37 am

Destructor wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Destructor wrote:Karl didn't coach Melo these last three seasons. My point is that the lack of success he brings makes giving him a max contract really difficult to swallow.


I'm not trying to make an excuse but lets be honest.

Melo's 1st year here

Amare and Billups played 1 game in that series vs Boston

Melo's 2nd year here

Tyson gets sick and was a no show, shumpert tore his acl, Lin was hurt. We went into the post season with Bibby and Baron Davis as our starting PG's.

Melo's 3rd year here

We made it to the second round and lost to the pacers (not a bad playoff showing)

There is a reason we were 1-8 those 1st two years. We had a terrible roster for the playoffs. Injuries and illnesses killed us with any chance to win. Putting those series as a knock on Melo is not fair IMO

If hes going to be paid the max he better be prepared to carry a team. He's going to be earning more than Lebron and Durant, think about that.
I do understand however that he means alot to your franchise.

So your not a Knick fan, but your here baiting?

:lol: :roll:
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Post#1297 » by Destructor » Sat May 24, 2014 1:25 pm

greenhughes wrote:
Destructor wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
I'm not trying to make an excuse but lets be honest.

Melo's 1st year here

Amare and Billups played 1 game in that series vs Boston

Melo's 2nd year here

Tyson gets sick and was a no show, shumpert tore his acl, Lin was hurt. We went into the post season with Bibby and Baron Davis as our starting PG's.

Melo's 3rd year here

We made it to the second round and lost to the pacers (not a bad playoff showing)

There is a reason we were 1-8 those 1st two years. We had a terrible roster for the playoffs. Injuries and illnesses killed us with any chance to win. Putting those series as a knock on Melo is not fair IMO

If hes going to be paid the max he better be prepared to carry a team. He's going to be earning more than Lebron and Durant, think about that.
I do understand however that he means alot to your franchise.

So your not a Knick fan, but your here baiting?

:lol: :roll:

Dude just stop you're acting very defensive and you're embarassing yourself. I never said he was a crap player; I said that he probably isn't worth a max contract BUT he does mean alot to your franchise seeing as he dragged it into the playoffs on his shoulders. IDC if you're taking offense to what I'm saying, seeing as you have failed to address my point and can't even defend him on a topic where the stats clearly aren't in his favour, but I'm done responding to childish posters so you're now on my ignore list please don't waste anyone else's time :)
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1298 » by JDLAW » Sat May 24, 2014 8:32 pm

Dbloc123 wrote:Ny trades tyson,felton,shump
receives Klove,Dwilliams

Sac trades #9, J thompson,j terry
receives tyson,shved,felton

Minny trades Klove,shved
receives #9,shump,J thompson,J terry



Re route D will and cash to phx for #14 take ennis

ennis
timmy
melo
love
(Defensive center)



You keep D.Will - the Suns have no interest.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1299 » by MoneyMitch » Sat May 24, 2014 9:18 pm

Melo comes out and says he'd take less and yet idiots are still talking about him taking the max smfh
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#1300 » by MoneyMitch » Sat May 24, 2014 9:19 pm

wait...wait I'm doing it again

najee rumba......

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