If you could replace Bosh with another max player or combo

Yaphet Kotto · Post #1 » by **Yaphet Kotto** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:37 pm

Combo of players/salaries, who would it be?

Not saying I want Bosh gone, but there are alot who feel that way, I want to know who you would want in place of his $20mil salary.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #2 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:39 pm

Kevin Love

asik/parsons

deandre jordan/jj redick

millsap/korver

not sure of the outcome would be better or worse but they all intrigue me.

Post #3 » by **KingDavid** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:44 pm

This ought to be good for some laughs.

Dupas · Post #4 » by **Dupas** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:46 pm

KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Post #5 » by **KingDavid** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:49 pm

Dupas wrote:
KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Dupas · Post #6 » by **Dupas** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:53 pm

KingDavid wrote:
Dupas wrote:
KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Because we won the the last years? Ok. Like bosh had something to do against those comebacks against indiana/boston 2012 or last year gainst spurns where he got torched by a 37 year old guy.
Hes not a star , either he inst fit in our system or not BUT you GET PAID for the production you have ON COURT. Do you think the way BOSH has been playing TODAY deserves a 14M contract? Ill leave that 2 you. Its just that im saying here. I dont care how many points he have or how many rebounds etc etc

Post #7 » by **KingDavid** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:55 pm

Dupas wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
Dupas wrote:Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Because we won the the last years? Ok. Like bosh had something to do against those comebacks against indiana/boston 2012 or last year gainst spurns where he got torched by a 37 year old guy.
Hes not a star , either he inst fit in our system or not BUT you GET PAID for the production you have ON COURT. Do you think the way BOSH has been playing TODAY deserves a 14M contract? Ill leave that 2 you. Its just that im saying here. I dont care how many points he have or how many rebounds etc etc

Dupas · Post #8 » by **Dupas** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:55 pm

Always nice to argue with you. lol

Golden Angel · Post #9 » by **Golden Angel** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:00 pm

KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Rock Hardy · Post #10 » by **Rock Hardy** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:02 pm

Dupas wrote:
KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Name a better pnr defender that shoots as well from the perimeter.

Unless you're one of those that thinks we'll get better by stuffing the paint. Bosh improves everyone's efficiency, point blank. Don't take it for granted when he struggles.

Dupas · Post #11 » by **Dupas** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:20 pm

Rock Hardy wrote:
Dupas wrote:
KingDavid wrote:This ought to be good for some laughs.

Bosh isnt lebron or wade bro. Stop pretending hes that important. Hes good , but not unreplaceble.

Name a better pnr defender that shoots as well from the perimeter.

Unless you're one of those that thinks we'll get better by stuffing the paint. Bosh improves everyone's efficiency, point blank. Don't take it for granted when he struggles.

every playoff run end always the same way " bosh needs to wake up " so on and so on.
Bosh learned our defense. Do you think birdman was this better on defense with the nuggets? Bosh was almost a black hole on defense in toronto bro. Im not saying bosh hes bad. He DOESNT deserve 14M. thats it.

RexBoyWonder · Post #12 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:22 pm

Yaphet Kotto wrote:Combo of players/salaries, who would it be?

Not saying I want Bosh gone, but there are alot who feel that way, I want to know who you would want in place of his $20mil salary.

People can fantasize all they want, but it won't happen for a bunch of real reasons.

You also have to remember the team you're trading with needs to agree.

Wolves won't give you Love for Bosh. They need young assets.

Don't see Clippers doing Jordan+Redick for Bosh either. They got their PF in Griffin.

Hawks probably do a Millsap+Korver for Bosh, but I wouldn't. Bosh is better then Millsap, and Korver is ancient and one dimensional.

Rockets might do Asik+Parsons, but it's a gamble. You're giving up the best player in the trade for a couple of good role players. Asik is limited, and you're left with a hole at PF. Parsons is a SF, and we already have the SF position taken by the best player in the world.

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Basically - While Bosh is probably not ideally utilized here, He's still a good player that kind of fits what we do, and I don't see any trades that really make sense for us. Maybe some kind of a 3 team deal for Ryan Anderson as the ultimate stretch 4 and Asik as the defense and rebounding guy. Don't really see it happening realistically.

What I really want is to for us to put Bosh in a position to succeed - playing him next to a strong athletic physical player - be it a true Center or beastly PF :

Asik, Healthy Oden, Taj Gibson, Adreian Payne, Tyson Chandler - anyone that can provide that type of skillset and allow Bosh to do his thing.

Golden Angel · Post #13 » by **Golden Angel** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:24 pm

Millsap Korver Antic
Al Jefferson/McRoberts
Taj Gibson & Noah (imagine that!)
Mozgov & Lawson
Draymond Green & David Lee
Dwight
Asik & Parsons
David West & Ian Mahinmi (lol)
Blake Griffin!!!!!!
Deandre Jordan & Redick
Marc Gasol alone
Marc Gasol+Tony Allen
Randolph+Mike Miller
Larry Sanders & Ersan
Kevin Love+ Gorgui Dieng
Serge Ibaka+Reggie Jackson
Dragic+Frye
Duncan+Manu
Duncan+Splitter
Duncan+any garbage

dancing2thabeet · Post #14 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:31 pm

I agree, Bosh is worth two or three guys. This just tells how (in)valuable he really is.

RexBoyWonder · Post #15 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:33 pm

Golden Angel wrote:Millsap Korver Antic - bad for us
Al Jefferson/McRoberts - doesn't fit here
Taj Gibson & Noah (imagine that!) - not happening
Mozgov & Lawson - doesn't fit here
Draymond Green & David Lee - bad for us
Dwight - not happening
Asik & Parsons - Maybe
David West & Ian Mahinmi (lol) - right
Blake Griffin!!!!!! - not happening
Deandre Jordan & Redick - not happening
Marc Gasol alone - lateral move
Marc Gasol+Tony Allen - not happening
Randolph+Mike Miller - bad for us
Larry Sanders & Ersan - Maybe
Kevin Love+ Gorgui Dieng - LOL not happening
Serge Ibaka+Reggie Jackson - LOL not happening
Dragic+Frye - bad for us
Duncan+Manu - not happening
Duncan+Splitter - not happening
Duncan+any garbage - not happening

You're left with :

Asik & Parsons - already broke it down in my previous post.

Larry Sanders & Ersan - kinda interesting on paper, 2 guys coming off bad seasons but would be good fits here if they bounce back. Bucks might do it too. But I don't see us pulling the trigger, it's a big gamble on and off the court.

heater4life · Post #16 » by **heater4life** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:46 pm

LBJ-Italy its your time to shine. Where you at?

Dupas · Post #17 » by **Dupas** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:50 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
Golden Angel wrote:Millsap Korver Antic - bad for us
Al Jefferson/McRoberts - doesn't fit here
Taj Gibson & Noah (imagine that!) - not happening
Mozgov & Lawson - doesn't fit here
Draymond Green & David Lee - bad for us
Dwight - not happening
Asik & Parsons - Maybe
David West & Ian Mahinmi (lol) - right
Blake Griffin!!!!!! - not happening
Deandre Jordan & Redick - not happening
Marc Gasol alone - lateral move
Marc Gasol+Tony Allen - not happening
Randolph+Mike Miller - bad for us
Larry Sanders & Ersan - Maybe
Kevin Love+ Gorgui Dieng - LOL not happening
Serge Ibaka+Reggie Jackson - LOL not happening
Dragic+Frye - bad for us
Duncan+Manu - not happening
Duncan+Splitter - not happening
Duncan+any garbage - not happening

You're left with :

Asik & Parsons - already broke it down in my previous post.

Larry Sanders & Ersan - kinda interesting on paper, 2 guys coming off bad seasons but would be good fits here if they bounce back. Bucks might do it too. But I don't see us pulling the trigger, it's a big gamble on and off the court.

Parsons does alot of time playing 4 when hou goes small

Mujaki · Post #18 » by **Mujaki** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:55 pm

This thread is funny. Remember aaaaaaaaaall the way back to only a couple months ago when people were saying that Bosh was now the 2nd best player on the Heat?

I do.

Altered_Beast · Post #19 » by **Altered_Beast** » Sun May 25, 2014 11:04 pm

id only do it for 3 maybe 4 players

griffin
love
anthony davis

and youd have to throw in something extra with aldridge (maybe dorell wright or Trob)

i dont think there are any other players in the league that can come in and we'd be just as good

xMADEinDADEx · Post #20 » by **xMADEinDADEx** » Sun May 25, 2014 11:13 pm

I'd strongly consider going for love although I doubt we even have the pieces necessary for that trade.