2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

[Rapsfan07]

Embiid, if he can just stay healthy, is going to be a HOF C. No doubt about it.

Hopefully he can stay healthy. It's going to suck if he's just another great Centre this generation misses out on because of injuries, like Greg Oden. We've been jipped of one HOF Centre, please don't make it two basketball Gods!!!

I don't know about Hall of Fame but certainly a top tier center in the league for a long time. A healthy, interested version of Bynum is what I see from Embiid.


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[Roland Brice]

Embiid, if he can just stay healthy, is going to be a HOF C. No doubt about it.

Hopefully he can stay healthy. It's going to suck if he's just another great Centre this generation misses out on because of injuries, like Greg Oden. We've been jipped of one HOF Centre, please don't make it two basketball Gods!!!

I don't know about Hall of Fame but certainly a top tier center in the league for a long time. A healthy, interested version of Bynum is what I see from Embiid.


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What do you think a healthy, non-idiotic version of Andrew Bynum would be? H...O...F...

[Rapsfan07]

here's a thought say a team had too many picks this year and wanted to trade one for a pick in another year . What pick could we get with that NY pick ? A late first rounder ? early second rounder?

I'd really refrain from dealing the NY pick unless we're getting a bonafide star. I want us to make a run at KD in 2016 and that pick could be part a decent S&T should that be necessary. If not, that pick is a nice, cheap way to fill the bench.

Secondly, that pick is the worse of the DEN/NYK picks and who knows that the Nuggets or Knicks look like two years from now. So I'd hold on to it... At least for now.

Clippers could be interested in dealing their #28 to unload Dudley. Philly could be interested in moving #32 since they're already bringing in 3 first rounders and 5 second rounders. Phoenix might move #27 depending on the package too.


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I like the Clippers trade with Dudley and the 28th pick for TPE and maybe the 37.

Dudley is basically what Landry Fields should have been - a decent SF and a good glue guy for the locker room. He is big enough to handle the big wings Ross could not handle and he is not that expensive. Meanwhile we have the 28th pick to grab Inglis, while the 20 could be used for a pg like Innis or Payton or a big like Payne or Caplia. Good reasonable move

Dudley + #28 for TPE + #37 has been kicked around in the trade board quite a bit. I like it. Clips can still get a quality guy on an unguaranteed deal and sign Pierce if they'd like. We'd grab a useful short term bench guy in Dudley and a first rounder for someone we like (probably Inglis). I'd do this. If we can buy Philly's #32, that's the icing on the cake.

#20 - Adreian Payne
#28 - Damien Inglis
#32 - Deonte Burton


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[Rapsfan07]

Hopefully he can stay healthy. It's going to suck if he's just another great Centre this generation misses out on because of injuries, like Greg Oden. We've been jipped of one HOF Centre, please don't make it two basketball Gods!!!

I don't know about Hall of Fame but certainly a top tier center in the league for a long time. A healthy, interested version of Bynum is what I see from Embiid.


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What do you think a healthy, non-idiotic version of Andrew Bynum would be? H...O...F...

Hard to tell since he's not that. But I suppose it's arguable


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[cammac]

#1 Wiggins
#2 Embid
#3 Exum
#4 Parker
#5 Vonieh
#6 Smart
#7 Saric
#8 Randle
#9 Anderson
#10 Gordon
#11 Staukas
#12 Capela
#13 Nuric
#14 McDermott
#15 LaVine
#16 Porzingis
#17 Harris
#18 Payton
#19 Ennis
#20 Inglis
#21 Payne
#22 Young
#23 Warren
#24 McDaniels
#25 Grant
#26 Hood
#27 Hairston
#28 Bogdanovic
#29 Austin
#30 Early

I think most of the Euro's should be ranked higher if you are ranking LaVine high because of potential players like Porzingis, Inglis, Bogdanovic, Nuric, Saric and Capela should be ranked higher. Interesting to see others rankings.

[Waylon Mercy]

It's amazing how much love Inglis gets on this board I haven't heard a peep about him
from any of the draft experts or websites or other fans around the league. Yet when
I'm on here people act like he's the next big thing.

[cammac]

It's amazing how much love Inglis gets on this board I haven't heard a peep about him
from any of the draft experts or websites or other fans around the league. Yet when
I'm on here people act like he's the next big thing.

You are right but NBA Draft doesn't cover euro's and he will climb in when the NBA has Euro combines.
He can be a complete flop but he can also be the 2nd best SF to Wiggins.
Think many of the USA players highly over-rated as well and think Ennis is about right at 19th.

[DeadHorse]

[tdotboyy]

how am i supposed to know

[CPT]

Not sure I like the Dudley deal, actually. Too much money to move up that many spots in that part of the draft. But if there's a guy you absolutely love at 28 that you are sure won't be there at 37 (or at any other pick up for sale), then I guess it could be a decent option. Though at that point, you may want to think about just taking him at 20.

We have a few guys at the end of the bench that are expendable, so roster spots aren't a huge issue, but we're getting to the point where playing time will be. It's a good problem to have, but what if Dudley gets squeezed out like he did in LA? And if not, he's certainly going to be taking minutes away from one of the guys you drafted at 20 or 28, so what's the point?

[Yallbecrazy]

lol Saric, lol Lavine, lol Randle, lol Mcdermott.

What's the difference between Randle and Stokes? They're pretty much the same player.

[God Squad]

Vasquez is a terrible defender and a poor shooter what he does have if height. Livingston is 6ft7 can guard 3 positions very well if you looked at Brooklyn series not the best shooter but doesn't demand the ball. Ross/Vince at SG can shoot, Anderson can shoot, Patterson can shoot and either Jonas or Bachynski can shoot. We would have a controlled offense rather than Vasquez playing the Lone Ranger.

Livingston is nice and all, especially as a defender, it's just pretty arbitrary saying that is what we'd need next to Anderson, especially when their games are actually pretty similar. Point guard is not a priority, we still have 5 on the roster.

Vasquez is better than Livingston. Vasquez is a very good shooter, he can take a pull up 3 if defender goes under/gives him the room. Vasquez has been the key for us off the bench and good chemistry with Patterson. Both are smart players. Vasquez also helps Lowry a lot as the secondary ball handler. As we can't trust DeRozan and Ross (yet), Vasquez is the reason our turnover rate reduced after game 2 of the playoffs.

I totally agree dude. I just don't have the patience to argue with people. He's been a huge surprise and partly why were won and were in many of those playoff games. He has great chemistry with most of the guys. He's a defensive liability. But I never once questioned his effort. He gets too much hate from some people and no love on this board. That being said, always look to move and upgrade the team. Don't get attached to anyone.

This Terrance Ross hard-on people have need to stop. Everyone on this roster should be expendable. Jonas included.

[God Squad]

here's a thought say a team had too many picks this year and wanted to trade one for a pick in another year . What pick could we get with that NY pick ? A late first rounder ? early second rounder?

I'd really refrain from dealing the NY pick unless we're getting a bonafide star. I want us to make a run at KD in 2016 and that pick could be part a decent S&T should that be necessary. If not, that pick is a nice, cheap way to fill the bench.

Secondly, that pick is the worse of the DEN/NYK picks and who knows that the Nuggets or Knicks look like two years from now. So I'd hold on to it... At least for now.

Clippers could be interested in dealing their #28 to unload Dudley. Philly could be interested in moving #32 since they're already bringing in 3 first rounders and 5 second rounders. Phoenix might move #27 depending on the package too.


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I like the Clippers trade with Dudley and the 28th pick for TPE and maybe the 37.

Dudley is basically what Landry Fields should have been - a decent SF and a good glue guy for the locker room. He is big enough to handle the big wings Ross could not handle and he is not that expensive. Meanwhile we have the 28th pick to grab Inglis, while the 20 could be used for a pg like Innis or Payton or a big like Payne or Caplia. Good reasonable move

Dudley's been horrible this year. I guess you'd have to really love a player at 28.

[God Squad]

Love Aaron Gordon, but I think of him as 3. In the NBA it's the position you can defend and he's not big enough to defend 4s, but he's quick enough to defend NBA SF.

Not big enough for the 4? I don't know where people get this stuff. This isn't the 90s; the 4 is not really a big-man position anymore. He's not a 3.

The thing about Gordon though, is that he can defend 3s too, if need be. Casey would love Gordon, because of his defensive versatility.

I've been hearing/seeing a lot of Buzz about Raps being interested in Gordon. I was hyped from his HS stuff, then underwhelmed from his early season games. I'll find out more about his game. But one word keeps on reoccurring "Tweener".

[Roland Brice]

Not big enough for the 4? I don't know where people get this stuff. This isn't the 90s; the 4 is not really a big-man position anymore. He's not a 3.

The thing about Gordon though, is that he can defend 3s too, if need be. Casey would love Gordon, because of his defensive versatility.

I've been hearing/seeing a lot of Buzz about Raps being interested in Gordon. I was hyped from his HS stuff, then underwhelmed from his early season games. I'll find out more about his game. But one word keeps on reoccurring "Tweener".

Buzz from where?

[Sn0wman]

The only players I know are Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum and Randle.

[TooHood]

It's amazing how much love Inglis gets on this board I haven't heard a peep about him
from any of the draft experts or websites or other fans around the league. Yet when
I'm on here people act like he's the next big thing.

Same here .....

[Rapsfan07]

I'd really refrain from dealing the NY pick unless we're getting a bonafide star. I want us to make a run at KD in 2016 and that pick could be part a decent S&T should that be necessary. If not, that pick is a nice, cheap way to fill the bench.

Secondly, that pick is the worse of the DEN/NYK picks and who knows that the Nuggets or Knicks look like two years from now. So I'd hold on to it... At least for now.

Clippers could be interested in dealing their #28 to unload Dudley. Philly could be interested in moving #32 since they're already bringing in 3 first rounders and 5 second rounders. Phoenix might move #27 depending on the package too.


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I like the Clippers trade with Dudley and the 28th pick for TPE and maybe the 37.

Dudley is basically what Landry Fields should have been - a decent SF and a good glue guy for the locker room. He is big enough to handle the big wings Ross could not handle and he is not that expensive. Meanwhile we have the 28th pick to grab Inglis, while the 20 could be used for a pg like Innis or Payton or a big like Payne or Caplia. Good reasonable move

Dudley's been horrible this year. I guess you'd have to really love a player at 28.

I'm not worried about that at all. I think Casey can get him playing back like his normal self. And yes, I'd like to use #28 on Inglis in case he goes in the first round. Or it can be used in a package for Chandler or something.

[Lazy]

When are we gonna start bringing guys in for workouts?

Anyone know?

[TdotRap4Lyfe]

If Ennis falls to us at 20, I'd be hard pressed not to take him. Could be great to have him learn the game behind Lowry. I do want a solid SF, but I would want us to take BPA every time.