2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

[lander]

Love Aaron Gordon, but I think of him as 3. In the NBA it's the position you can defend and he's not big enough to defend 4s, but he's quick enough to defend NBA SF.

Not big enough for the 4? I don't know where people get this stuff. This isn't the 90s; the 4 is not really a big-man position anymore. He's not a 3.

I meant strength. Watch the DX scouting video if you disagree. He clearly gets pushed around easily in the post. Size is more than height and btw in the NBA it's frequently thought you are whatever position you can defend, of the two he can defend the 3.

[Steelo Green]

Inglis is a guy you take a leap of faith with. He either pans out or he's a bust. You either pray he's there with that second round pick, trade down for him or surprise people and pick him early.

[The_Hater]

That's jizz worthy right there, wow! 3 future hof's and that's not just based on measurements. Embiids is a freaking monster....

3 future hof's? Getting way ahead of yourself there. If just 1 of that trio ends up in the hall that would be impressive.

[Dr Positivity]

On the draft board we're speculating the standing reach/height w shoes numbers aren't trustworthy, they seem high by the same amount for all 3 players. Jabari measured 8'8 standing reach at the Hoop Summit...

[Chriscross]

I like the Clippers trade with Dudley and the 28th pick for TPE and maybe the 37.

Dudley is basically what Landry Fields should have been - a decent SF and a good glue guy for the locker room. He is big enough to handle the big wings Ross could not handle and he is not that expensive. Meanwhile we have the 28th pick to grab Inglis, while the 20 could be used for a pg like Innis or Payton or a big like Payne or Caplia. Good reasonable move

Dudley's been horrible this year. I guess you'd have to really love a player at 28.

I'm not worried about that at all. I think Casey can get him playing back like his normal self. And yes, I'd like to use #28 on Inglis in case he goes in the first round. Or it can be used in a package for Chandler or something.

Fields > Dudley and it shouldn't even be a debate

Fields can at least play some defense. Dudley is poor defensively and if he isn't hitting triples, pretty much useless

[Dukenukem23]

On the draft board we're speculating the standing reach/height w shoes numbers aren't trustworthy, they seem high by the same amount for all 3 players. Jabari measured 8'8 standing reach at the Hoop Summit...

Interesting, I wondered about this. Wiggins was showing he was 6' 9" in shoes and there is no way he's that big. I think they wore platform shoes to get the height and reach up similar to what we saw with cold Aldrich at a previous combine where he added over 2" with his shoes.lol.

[Rapsfan07]

Not sure I like the Dudley deal, actually. Too much money to move up that many spots in that part of the draft. But if there's a guy you absolutely love at 28 that you are sure won't be there at 37 (or at any other pick up for sale), then I guess it could be a decent option. Though at that point, you may want to think about just taking him at 20.

We have a few guys at the end of the bench that are expendable, so roster spots aren't a huge issue, but we're getting to the point where playing time will be. It's a good problem to have, but what if Dudley gets squeezed out like he did in LA? And if not, he's certainly going to be taking minutes away from one of the guys you drafted at 20 or 28, so what's the point?

My logic is that if he gets squeezed out, it's because he didn't perform in the minutes he was given. Let's say we draft Inglis with #28 and acquired Dudley in the process....Inglis is a pretty long way from contributing. Not to mention Dudley hasn't been that great lately. If he wants the minutes, he can fight for them.

[Kinger95]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

[Dukenukem23]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

He's a tweener, can't shoot and all that jazz but if he slipped to #20 I'd be ecstatic.

[Kabookalu]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

I doubt Gordon is available at 20th, but if somehow someway he is then he's easily the steal of the draft.

[ballislife]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

He's a tweener, can't shoot and all that jazz but if he slipped to #20 I'd be ecstatic.

I don't get the Gordon talk... there's no chance in hell he's available at 20.

If we want him, we'll need a pick in the top 10. C'mon guys. Don't be stupid about this. Let's be realistic.

With that said, I think our top picks will be Payne/Anderson/McDaniels/Payton. Most other guys (Inglis/Pryzingis) are second rounders. Both of those guys would be nice pickups even if we reach at #20 though. I'd be hesitant.

[Volcano]

It's amazing how much love Inglis gets on this board I haven't heard a peep about him
from any of the draft experts or websites or other fans around the league. Yet when
I'm on here people act like he's the next big thing.

I was hyped up about him as a potential 2nd round pick..but people starting wanting him in the 1st round for no reason

I don't know why people like Capela either. Yeah, a freak athlete..but what's so great outside of that? He has defensive potential, but still has a long way to go. His offensive potential is weak. He's very raw. Weak b-ball IQ. Can end up between Biyombo and Stromile Swift. Not the greatest rebounder, doesn't have a great motor. There's way too much development needed with him and he doesn't seem to have the mental aspects to get there.

[God Squad]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

He's a tweener, can't shoot and all that jazz but if he slipped to #20 I'd be ecstatic.

I don't get the Gordon talk... there's no chance in hell he's available at 20.

If we want him, we'll need a pick in the top 10. C'mon guys. Don't be stupid about this. Let's be realistic.

With that said, I think our top picks will be Payne/Anderson/McDaniels/Payton. Most other guys (Inglis/Pryzingis) are second rounders. Both of those guys would be nice pickups even if we reach at #20 though. I'd be hesitant.

I get it and I agree fully. But don't be surprised to see Masai try and successfully move up in the draft. Say 20th and Ross to move into top 10? Maybe Sac/Bos or lolcats aren't enarmoured with anyone in there range and would prefer moving down slots while acquiring a proven player. Not saying I'm down, simply because I'm not in love with anyone not in the top 6.

[UK-Raptor]

When the raps announcing workouts!

[CPT]

Yeah, if you want Gordon, it's most likely gonna cost 20 + Ross or a future pick. So base whether you want him on that. Not sure I'd do it, but I haven't paid much attention to Gordon since he's been out of our range for a while. Was impressed with his DX video at least, lol.

[Indeed]

Would love to get Gordon. The nba is gearing towards small ball and u have guys like pierce, lebron, melo and others playing significant minutes at the 4. I think Aaron Gordon would do better than most defending those guys and you don't loose a rebounding edge.

He's a tweener, can't shoot and all that jazz but if he slipped to #20 I'd be ecstatic.

I don't get the Gordon talk... there's no chance in hell he's available at 20.

If we want him, we'll need a pick in the top 10. C'mon guys. Don't be stupid about this. Let's be realistic.

With that said, I think our top picks will be Payne/Anderson/McDaniels/Payton. Most other guys (Inglis/Pryzingis) are second rounders. Both of those guys would be nice pickups even if we reach at #20 though. I'd be hesitant.

I doubt Porzingis being a second rounder. I think he has the most potential around the 20th. Although he is not a specialist, but he doesn't have major weakness except for strength and consistency, which happens to many at 18.

[thunderforce]

Again you guys Ross needs to stay we need him . Didn't he get hurt for a few games and we were kind of messed up defensively without him . He can take the pressure off of DD or Lowry on defense and we have no one else that can do what he does . In other words he helps us get wins and he is only going to get better . I think both Ross and JV are going to break out next year .

[Indeed]

He's a tweener, can't shoot and all that jazz but if he slipped to #20 I'd be ecstatic.

I don't get the Gordon talk... there's no chance in hell he's available at 20.

If we want him, we'll need a pick in the top 10. C'mon guys. Don't be stupid about this. Let's be realistic.

With that said, I think our top picks will be Payne/Anderson/McDaniels/Payton. Most other guys (Inglis/Pryzingis) are second rounders. Both of those guys would be nice pickups even if we reach at #20 though. I'd be hesitant.

I get it and I agree fully. But don't be surprised to see Masai try and successfully move up in the draft. Say 20th and Ross to move into top 10? Maybe Sac/Bos or lolcats aren't enarmoured with anyone in there range and would prefer moving down slots while acquiring a proven player. Not saying I'm down, simply because I'm not in love with anyone not in the top 6.

Giving up Ross would be too much, imo. At most Ross and #59. Meanwhile, we will have a hole at PG/SG defensively. There is no way DeRozan and Vasquez can guard elite PG/SG (eg. Harden, JR Smith, and etc.). We should either give up on DeRozan or Vasquez instead of Ross, because Ross gives us something we lack (3 + D).

[Kenyon009]

Giving up Ross would be too much, imo. At most Ross and #59. Meanwhile, we will have a hole at PG/SG defensively. There is no way DeRozan and Vasquez can guard elite PG/SG (eg. Harden, JR Smith, and etc.). We should either give up on DeRozan or Vasquez instead of Ross, because Ross gives us something we lack (3 + D).

I agree that Ross+59 be the most I'd be willing to give up. Ross is a future GREAT 3+D guy. He's an elite defensive player and 3 point shooter in 3 years book it. Then again Aaron Gordon does have that Blake Griffin vibe to him plus he's younger. That, in my opinion, easily costs Ross, if a guy like LaVine drops to 20 it makes the decision all that much more easier. I'm hoping we do a draft day deal of Ross for Gordon and can select LaVine with the 20 and Ingilis drops to 39. Slim chance but no hurt in hoping.

Val
Gordon
???/Inglis
DeRozan/LaVine
Lowry

If all those guys worked out that be 3 cheap rookie deals. They all have the tools to survive at the NBA level too. From athleticism to skill and size.

[Rapsalot]

Top 10 most folks agree on then the next 30 there are some flaws so get the player that fits us