Dre for Embiid?

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon May 26, 2014 1:41 am

I'm doing some backtracking from my earlier comment that two of the top three picks would be needed for Dre. What I'm reading about Embiid leads me to believe his potential is greater, particularly offensively. Right now, I'm not sure if I trade Dre for him.

“Watching Joel Embiid in workout for league executives in Santa Monica. Impossible to imagine passing on him at No. 1,” Yahoo Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski tweeted during the session.

Added ESPN’s Jeff Goodman: “NBA guy on watching Joel Embiid at workout: ‘Looks healthy, quick and explosive.’”

A veteran NBA scout told Zagsblog.com: “I did not see any issues with his back. He looked very agile and athletic.”

“He looks great. Running, jumping, dunking, bent up like a pretzel in warmups and stretching exercises,” another scout told Zagsblog.com. “Had two ex-NBA bigs (Brian Scalabrine and Will Perdue) banging on him underneath. He passed the eyeball test big time. Move him up. He helped himself today.”

It is believed Embiid’s agent, Arn Tellem, will eventually let teams take a look at Embiid’s current medical records. It’s not known whether Tellem will let teams perform their own MRIs and X-rays on Embiid.

“(Embiid) fared well today,” tweeted ESPN’s Goodman, “but let’s calm down since it was 1-on-0 workout. Still will be about medical tests.”

ESPN’s Chad Ford said Embiid told him “his back is 100 percent. Been working out hard for last three weeks.

“Embiid said he’s gained 15 pounds. Up to 265,” Ford tweeted. “Still getting back into shape. Got a bit winded in workout but still looked quick & explosive.”

Also working out for the scouts Friday were Parker, Marcus Smart, Jerami Grant and Kyle Anderson.

Simmons discusses Embiid: ESPN columnist Bill Simmons revealed that he watched Embiid work out recently “at a secret location in Santa Monica.”

Simmons was impressed.

“He wasn’t playing against anyone, just going through a two-hour workout with Will Perdue. Here’s what I can tell you: He moves around as effortlessly as a 7-foot Serge Ibaka; he’s such an athletic freak that he’s one of those ‘still going up as he’s finishing the dunk’ guys; his freakish wingspan might make Jay Bilas pass out; he has been playing basketball for only four years (which seems impossible); he gave up a world-class volleyball career; he has 3-point range; he can shoot jump-hooks with both hands already; he couldn’t have seemed more coachable/agreeable/likable; he’s a hard worker with a goofy sense of humor; his voice is just a touch Mutombo-y (deep with a heavy African accent); and his friends call him ‘Jo-Jo.’ And again — his back seemed totally fine,” Simmons wrote at Grantland.com.

“News flash: As I said on TV before the lottery, Embiid was always going first. None of these teams was passing on him. Repeat: none of them,” Simmons added. “The amount of smokescreening going on in April and May was high comedy. We keep hearing his back is really screwed up, this could be another Oden situation … Just stop it. This was like sitting at a fantasy football auction next to someone who kept claiming that he wasn’t going to pay big money for a QB … and then, two hours later, he’s bidding $49 for Aaron Rodgers. The truth is, Wiggins and Parker never separated themselves enough this season to warrant anyone saying, ‘We’re passing on a potential franchise center with a good chance of becoming the 7-foot Serge Ibaka.’”

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2014/may/ ... -workouts/

ImHeisenberg · Post #2 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Mon May 26, 2014 1:45 am

I doubt the idea of your hair-brained trade could ever become a reality.

fekz · Post #3 » by **fekz** » Mon May 26, 2014 1:50 am

A prospect who could be vs one who's already shaping up to be? I want what you're on brotha

epheisey · Post #4 » by **epheisey** » Mon May 26, 2014 1:53 am

HOLY EFFFF NO. NEVER trade a known commodity big for an unknown, I don't care what the "potential" is. Even if Embiid is better, I'll take that gamble and stick with Drummond.
NEVER.
NEVER.

Just NO.

MotownMadness · Post #5 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon May 26, 2014 2:10 am

Absolutely not

Kilo · Post #6 » by **Kilo** » Mon May 26, 2014 2:19 am

"Only thing that can stop Darko from reaching his potential is a woman."

ImHeisenberg · Post #7 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Mon May 26, 2014 2:20 am

Kilo wrote:"Only thing that can stop Darko from reaching his potential is a woman."

He must have got some of that Detroit stank on him, then.

wallacex2jc · Post #8 » by **wallacex2jc** » Mon May 26, 2014 2:44 am

If I can get two of Embiid and one of the following:

1. Smart
2. Another future 1st round pick
3. Already developed, borderline all-star SF (like a Kwahi Leonard)

Otherwise, no thanks

Navas · Post #9 » by **Navas** » Mon May 26, 2014 3:13 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x47NYUbtYb0[/youtube]

rmfc · Post #10 » by **rmfc** » Mon May 26, 2014 3:23 am

Q00 · Post #11 » by **Q00** » Mon May 26, 2014 4:10 am

No. Please make it stop.

RSCD3_ · Post #12 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon May 26, 2014 4:16 am

No, but his game is more versatile so he would probably it better with Monroe, however I don't see that much potential left to develop in ? Monroe so I wouldn't do the swap but if there is such a fan out here who is low on Drummond but high on Monroe than sure

ChainLink · Post #13 » by **ChainLink** » Mon May 26, 2014 4:23 am

No. Cavs fans (or Bucks, Sixers) are hoping Embiid can be on the trajectory Drummond is...why take the unknown when you already have something proven?

Embiid also had a scary injury that kept him out of the tournament. If there was a forced Dre trade and it can only be ONE guy from this draft, for me it would be Andrew Wiggins.

Neptune · Post #14 » by **Neptune** » Mon May 26, 2014 4:52 am

cammac · Post #15 » by **cammac** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:05 am

Drummond is going to be a top 3 C and Embid could be better.
Embid is a more complete player than Drummond much better offensively and likely be more versatile defensively but unlikely to be as good a rebounder. Drummond is a one trick pony offensively 0 to 3ft with little likelihood of extended range. That isn't bad because he will be highly efficient and could max out as 16PPG scorer. Bad he can't shoot foul shots so a liability in close end of game situations.

Drummond is likely worth Wiggins or Parker but don't think teams will do it.

DETermination · Post #16 » by **DETermination** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:28 am

Yes, lets trade an already proven Drummond for someone who could be a bust...

MotownMadness · Post #17 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:31 am

cammac wrote:Drummond is going to be a top 3 C and Embid could be better.
Embid is a more complete player than Drummond much better offensively and likely be more versatile defensively but unlikely to be as good a rebounder. Drummond is a one trick pony offensively 0 to 3ft with little likelihood of extended range. That isn't bad because he will be highly efficient and could max out as 16PPG scorer. Bad he can't shoot foul shots so a liability in close end of game situations.

Drummond is likely worth Wiggins or Parker but don't think teams will do it.

Embiids Potential is probably higher because of his offensive game but it's not worth the risk to gamble on him working out. Drummond is way to valuable to trade for a maybe this guy will be this kind of player trade.

Drummond has already shown dominance in the NBA at 20 years old while Embiid has not. Plus even if Embiid doesn't under achieve you also have to be careful about those back injurys. Kid looks like a hell of a prospect though but like I said it's not worth the risk.

cammac · Post #18 » by **cammac** » Mon May 26, 2014 6:03 am

MotownMadness wrote:
cammac wrote:Drummond is going to be a top 3 C and Embid could be better.
Embid is a more complete player than Drummond much better offensively and likely be more versatile defensively but unlikely to be as good a rebounder. Drummond is a one trick pony offensively 0 to 3ft with little likelihood of extended range. That isn't bad because he will be highly efficient and could max out as 16PPG scorer. Bad he can't shoot foul shots so a liability in close end of game situations.

Drummond is likely worth Wiggins or Parker but don't think teams will do it.

Embiids Potential is probably higher because of his offensive game but it's not worth the risk to gamble on him working out. Drummond is way to valuable to trade for a maybe this guy will be this kind of player trade.

Drummond has already shown dominance in the NBA at 20 years old while Embiid has not. Plus even if Embiid doesn't under achieve you also have to be careful about those back injurys. Kid looks like a hell of a prospect though but like I said it's not worth the risk.

Agree with you I wouldn't trade Jonas either for a top 3 and I love Wiggins.

ComboGuardCity · Post #19 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon May 26, 2014 6:21 am

I still think embiid will be an ibaka clone that happens to operate in the post. All star sure. Hakeem, no.

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Q00 · Post #20 » by **Q00** » Mon May 26, 2014 6:26 am

cammac wrote:Embid is a more complete player than Drummond much better offensively and likely be more versatile defensively

Based on what?