2014 Free Agency Thread

[TheKingofSting2]

I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?

max deal? Lance Stephenson? nope no way

Same, I like him but not that much.

[HornetJail]

I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?

I still think $10M gets it done. Lance is an unrestricted free agent. He can go anywhere he wants.

[MasterIchiro]

That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.

McRoberts doesn't belong in a starting lineup. Monroe is a borderline all-star 15-10 guy. If Stauskas is drafted we have no need for ball handling or 3 pt shooting from PF. We need rebounding and inside presence on offense. When Al misses time and we don't have an inside game we become one of the worst teams in the league. Adding Stauskas + Monroe and subtracting Henderson + McRoberts is a huge upgrade.

McRobert belongs in the starting lineup as a PF more than Monroe and more than Zeller in terms of team fit. If we could use Henderson and Zeller to get ahold of Hayward and clear enough space to go after Monroe too I would be a little better with it.

Kemba - Hayward - MKG - Monroe - Al
Napier/Vasquez - Nik - Hayward - McRoberts - Monroe

8 man rotation like what is used around playoff time and fill in the rest of the bench with what we have like Taylor, Neal and Biz and we have a solid group.

Yeah you really like Hayward. Me too. Wish it were that easy. I just think the money available is only going to be good for Monroe or Deng. I'd like to see if we could trade Neal and 24 for pick 21 (OKC) and maybe try to use pick 21 and Zeller to get Hayward. They'd probably want MKG + pick 21 tho.

[amcoolio]

Couldn't we give Lance an opposite Lin/Asik type deal where we pay him mega bucks this year and only 5-6 M a year after that?

[TheKingofSting2]

Couldn't we give Lance an opposite Lin/Asik type deal where we pay him mega bucks this year and only 5-6 M a year after that?

We could but the real question is would he take it?

[HornetJail]

Couldn't we give Lance an opposite Lin/Asik type deal where we pay him mega bucks this year and only 5-6 M a year after that?

Nope. The new CBA doesn't allow Nick Collison-esque contracts anymore. The Asik/Lin situation is different because they'd only played 2 seasons each. We're only allowed 4.5% differences up or down.

[Bassman]

Couldn't we give Lance an opposite Lin/Asik type deal where we pay him mega bucks this year and only 5-6 M a year after that?

I think any decision to sign Lance requires a commitment to making him a star with The Hornets Leaving the Pacers would not be easy; he won't do it for an average contract. It will require signing him to a quality offer...not max money but very good. I believe he has the right stuff to be a star. He needs to mature, and I think this group would be a very good influence for that.

Decisions on free agency will be critical to our draft process. Lance has as much talent as anyone available. Monroe might be the next best option. Deng would be a reach relative to his ceiling and future contribution to the current squad. Win now is not "win a championship now", so our target must be young enough to impact years downstream.

[Tarheel11981]

I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?

I still think $10M gets it done. Lance is an unrestricted free agent. He can go anywhere he wants.

He can go wherever he wants, but my feeling is he'd want to stay with a title contender, unless the money is too much to turn down. I love his game and would love him to be a Hornet, but just feel we'd have to overpay a little.

[HornetJail]

I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?

I still think $10M gets it done. Lance is an unrestricted free agent. He can go anywhere he wants.

He can go wherever he wants, but my feeling is he'd want to stay with a title contender, unless the money is too much to turn down. I love his game and would love him to be a Hornet, but just feel we'd have to overpay a little.

Look at what players are getting paid: Afflalo is at less than $8M, Derozan at $9.5M, Tyreke is considered a terrible contract at $11M, Monta Ellis is at $8M... Lance at $10M, or at most $11M makes perfect sense and is probably a bit of an overpay, but an overpay I'm okay with.

[Tarheel11981]

I still think $10M gets it done. Lance is an unrestricted free agent. He can go anywhere he wants.

He can go wherever he wants, but my feeling is he'd want to stay with a title contender, unless the money is too much to turn down. I love his game and would love him to be a Hornet, but just feel we'd have to overpay a little.

Look at what players are getting paid: Afflalo is at less than $8M, Derozan at $9.5M, Tyreke is considered a terrible contract at $11M, Monta Ellis is at $8M... Lance at $10M, or at most $11M makes perfect sense and is probably a bit of an overpay, but an overpay I'm okay with.

I could go 10M as well. I am just curious at how high the Pacers value him.

[JDR720]

im not sure the Pacers have the money to sign Lance to a big deal, i think they're already over the cap mainly because 3 of their players (George,Roy and West) already get paid 16,15 and 12 million

[HornetJail]

im not sure the Pacers have the money to sign Lance to a big deal, only have about 13.7 in cap and that is without Evan Turner, probably smarter to let Lance leave, try to sign Evan for about 6mill (restricted) and use the rest to fill offensive holes

Smarter for them?

Turner's a scrub. Have you seen how awful he's been in Indiana? I'll be surprised if they extend the QO to Turner.

[JDR720]

im not sure the Pacers have the money to sign Lance to a big deal, only have about 13.7 in cap and that is without Evan Turner, probably smarter to let Lance leave, try to sign Evan for about 6mill (restricted) and use the rest to fill offensive holes

Smarter for them?

Turner's a scrub. Have you seen how awful he's been in Indiana? I'll be surprised if they extend the QO to Turner.

well they still wont have any money, Georges extension happens, goes from 3 million to 13.7 million, Hibberts.Wests also increases by 600k each which makes them go over the cap which makes to harder to keep Lance

[BeesWax]

im not sure the Pacers have the money to sign Lance to a big deal, only have about 13.7 in cap and that is without Evan Turner, probably smarter to let Lance leave, try to sign Evan for about 6mill (restricted) and use the rest to fill offensive holes

Smarter for them?

Turner's a scrub. Have you seen how awful he's been in Indiana? I'll be surprised if they extend the QO to Turner.

well they still wont have any money, Georges extension happens, goes from 3 million to 13.7 million, Hibberts.Wests also increases by 600k each which makes them go over the cap which makes to harder to keep Lance

Good point they are going to sniff luxury tax area if they offer him.

[HornetJail]

im not sure the Pacers have the money to sign Lance to a big deal, only have about 13.7 in cap and that is without Evan Turner, probably smarter to let Lance leave, try to sign Evan for about 6mill (restricted) and use the rest to fill offensive holes

Smarter for them?

Turner's a scrub. Have you seen how awful he's been in Indiana? I'll be surprised if they extend the QO to Turner.

well they still wont have any money, Georges extension happens, goes from 3 million to 13.7 million, Hibberts.Wests also increases by 600k each which makes them go over the cap which makes to harder to keep Lance

theoretically they COULD re-sign him for anything up to the max, but they are concerned with the luxury tax. They have nearly $14M until they hit the luxury tax, but you have to think they will want to make some serious changes this summer. I don't think they match an 8-figure contract.

[TheKingofSting2]

Is the consensus here that we need Stephenson or Hayward or simply we would be glad to have either?

[HornetJail]

Is the consensus here that we need Stephenson or Hayward or simply we would be glad to have either?

we'd have to pay more for Hayward but if we got him for Afflalo money (not possible), I'd be happy with either. Otherwise, I'm on the Lance train.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Is the consensus here that we need Stephenson or Hayward or simply we would be glad to have either?

Consensus before getting #9 this year....

Now IDK. My feeling is that an experienced backup PG is free agent need to be filled first now.


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[BeesWax]

I just hope we don't spend money chasing Monroe. He is the one FA that is going to cost big bucks that would make our team worse. I may not be sold on the value of some of the others but none would kill our team like this guy.

The good news is if we bring him in we will get a chance at a lottery pick next season as we will have one of the worst PF rotations in the NBA. Since we paid off our one to Chicago this season we would get to keep it.

Two guys who are poor defenders lined up next to a very poor defensive center. What a downgrade in BBIQ this would be too.

[JDR720]

what about Andray Blatche?