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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#21 » by Viper1500 » Mon May 26, 2014 8:08 pm

The #9 pick clearly won't be better than Afflalo, best case scenario is he becomes better in a few years. It really comes down to if the Hornets are looking to compete now or not. If you could negotiate some type of deal with Afflalo, the #9 for Afflalo for make a lot of sense for both teams. If your team isn't looking to re-sign him, this trade doesn't happen.

Afflalo would do wonders on a team like Charlotte, I really don't think your team understands how perfect he'd fit into your lineup. If it wasn't for Orlando having Oladipo I'd give up a late lottery pick for Afflalo.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#22 » by Viper1500 » Mon May 26, 2014 8:09 pm

SloNick Russia wrote:AA + 12 pick for 9 + 24

I would not do this, the difference between 9 and 12 isn't very significant. So it comes down to Afflalo for the 24th, I'd pass.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#23 » by ARHornet » Mon May 26, 2014 8:10 pm

If yall are expecting to get 9 for Afflalo then prepare to be disappointed or prepare to keep Afflalo. Charlotte, or anyone else for that matter, is not giving anything near that high.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#24 » by BeesWax » Mon May 26, 2014 8:11 pm

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thelead wrote:Cool. We'll gladly trade him to a better team with better assets then :wink:

Good luck. A 29 year old one year left on his contract middle of the road SG isn't going to bring a ton. Scoring a lot of a terrible team doesn't really mean much.

Your current best player is 29 years old, nearly 1 year older than Afflalo (It's not old, so don't bring up irreverent facts)

Yes it is old. Afflalo would also be 29 by the time he played here. The rest of our team is young and talented. Afflalo has a couple decent seasons under his belt but nowhere near Al. Al is also a below the rim player who relies very little on athletic ability. If we are giving up good assets it needs to be for more than a 1 year rental. We need someone to grow with our young core.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#25 » by BeesWax » Mon May 26, 2014 8:12 pm

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SloNick Russia wrote:AA + 12 pick for 9 + 24

I would not do this, the difference between 9 and 12 isn't very significant. So it comes down to Afflalo for the 24th, I'd pass.

Neither would I so we agree on something.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#26 » by SOUL » Mon May 26, 2014 8:14 pm

Afflalo is very overrated in these parts - but all it takes is an overeager GM to get great value. He's a great player for his contract, but it's yet to be seen what sort of option he should be on a playoff team. I'm not sure what package we'd move him for.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#27 » by Viper1500 » Mon May 26, 2014 8:14 pm

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jdm3 wrote:Good luck. A 29 year old one year left on his contract middle of the road SG isn't going to bring a ton. Scoring a lot of a terrible team doesn't really mean much.

Your current best player is 29 years old, nearly 1 year older than Afflalo (It's not old, so don't bring up irreverent facts)

Yes it is old. Afflalo would also be 29 by the time he played here. The rest of our team is young and talented. Afflalo has a couple decent seasons under his belt but nowhere near Al. Al is also a below the rim player who relies very little on athletic ability. If we are giving up good assets it needs to be for more than a 1 year rental. We need someone to grow with our young core.

I consider over the age of 32 old, not 28.

And Afflalo relies on his athletic ability just as much if not less than Al
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Post#28 » by Furinkazan » Mon May 26, 2014 8:15 pm

you did come here wanting him and now u say he is crap XD its hilarious :D
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#29 » by Viper1500 » Mon May 26, 2014 8:16 pm

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SloNick Russia wrote:AA + 12 pick for 9 + 24

I would not do this, the difference between 9 and 12 isn't very significant. So it comes down to Afflalo for the 24th, I'd pass.

Neither would I so we agree on something.

You're a fan who isn't willing to give up anything of value, I get that, but don't expect to improve via trade by offering the players which could easily be in the d-league next season.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#30 » by BeesWax » Mon May 26, 2014 8:17 pm

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Viper1500 wrote:Your current best player is 29 years old, nearly 1 year older than Afflalo (It's not old, so don't bring up irreverent facts)

Yes it is old. Afflalo would also be 29 by the time he played here. The rest of our team is young and talented. Afflalo has a couple decent seasons under his belt but nowhere near Al. Al is also a below the rim player who relies very little on athletic ability. If we are giving up good assets it needs to be for more than a 1 year rental. We need someone to grow with our young core.

I consider over the age of 32 old, not 28.

And Afflalo relies on his athletic ability just as much if not less than Al

Well I consider 29 old which is what AA would be here. Since the rest of our team outside of Al is young. Drafting Young or Stauskus who are better players right away and much younger would be the smart thing. AA has a late first value but feel free to hold him till he expires.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#31 » by BeesWax » Mon May 26, 2014 8:19 pm

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Viper1500 wrote:I would not do this, the difference between 9 and 12 isn't very significant. So it comes down to Afflalo for the 24th, I'd pass.

Neither would I so we agree on something.

You're a fan who isn't willing to give up anything of value, I get that, but don't expect to improve via trade by offering the players which could easily be in the d-league next season.

Oh if we are going to really improve I will offer something of value. Just don't see this as much of an upgrade for us right now.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#32 » by thelead » Mon May 26, 2014 8:23 pm

SOUL wrote:Afflalo is very overrated in these parts - but all it takes is an overeager GM to get great value. He's a great player for his contract, but it's yet to be seen what sort of option he should be on a playoff team. I'm not sure what package we'd move him for.

Is Afflalo worth the 9th pick? Probably not but they don't have much else to offer. The 24th pick is not nearly enough for him and they don't have many players they're willing to trade. Outside of 4 or 5 players, the Hornets are pure trash. I don't want a package of trash. What are we going to do with that? We don't need any more Doron Lambs around here. Sorry.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#33 » by Radu_Hornets » Mon May 26, 2014 8:25 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:you did come here wanting him and now u say he is crap XD its hilarious :D



Actually, I asked the question, not him... And I was basically checking what trade value you'd give to the player... :nod:
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Post#34 » by MasterIchiro » Mon May 26, 2014 8:25 pm

Afflalo is a great fit on the Thunder. You might be able to get pick 21 from OKC.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#35 » by Def Swami » Mon May 26, 2014 8:26 pm

ARHornet wrote:If yall are expecting to get 9 for Afflalo then prepare to be disappointed or prepare to keep Afflalo. Charlotte, or anyone else for that matter, is not giving anything near that high.

No one is expecting it. It's just the only thing the Bobcats can offer that we'd be interested in. This deal requires a 3rd team.

FWIW, I'm content with keeping Afflalo.
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Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#36 » by Max Power » Mon May 26, 2014 8:27 pm

This thread is funny. A Charlotte fan comes in here wanting Afflalo, who's arguably an All Star talent who's improved every season of his career, 4 posts in he's garbage? Number 9 is the only thing your team has that the Magic organization might want for him, the only talent they have we know aren't going anywhere. Your offering up your reserves for Afflalo? No dice Charlotte fan. And before it naturally comes to it, I didn't say Afflalo was an Allstar, or superstar but he played like one this year. I think talking Afflalo with Charlotte is utterly pointless. They have nothing to offer us of note.


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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#37 » by Def Swami » Mon May 26, 2014 8:31 pm

SloNick Russia wrote:AA + 12 pick for 9 + 24

I'd consider AA + 12 for 9 + Zeller on Draft Day if a player the Magic are interested in is available at #9.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#38 » by thelead » Mon May 26, 2014 8:46 pm

We sent them crying back to their board :lol:

Seriously though, it's not like we're unreasonable. We want your 9th pick, you feel like it's too much (it probably is). You want to give up the 24th pick for him, we feel like it's not enough (it probably isn't). Most likely, his true value is somewhere in the middle (14-16 pick). If you want to give us the 24th pick, you'll have to add value (ie: trash =/= value).

For those that don't think that he's an upgrade over Henderson, you don't know basketball. At all.

For the "scored points on a bad team" crowd, it's not about the points, it's about the efficiency. He was doubled teamed this year as the main option many times and still put up 18ppg on a 57% TS%. That's pretty damn good for a SG that attempted 4.1 3's per game. He shot 43% from 3's, 47% from 2's and 82% from the FT line. Go check out the advanced stats for Henderson and get back to me on how great he performed in comparison.
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Post#39 » by Showbiz Bear » Mon May 26, 2014 8:50 pm

I love how these discussions involve regular posters pretending to be GMs trying to gauge what deals would be satisfactory. It serves as a reminder that I'm thankful none of you are REAL GMs.
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Post#40 » by MasterIchiro » Mon May 26, 2014 8:58 pm

thelead wrote:We sent them crying back to their board :lol:

Seriously though, it's not like we're unreasonable. We want your 9th pick, you feel like it's too much (it probably is). You want to give up the 24th pick for him, we feel like it's not enough (it probably isn't). Most likely, his true value is somewhere in the middle (14-16 pick). If you want to give us the 24th pick, you'll have to add value (ie: trash =/= value).

For those that don't think that he's an upgrade over Henderson, you don't know basketball. At all.

For the "scored points on a bad team" crowd, it's not about the points, it's about the efficiency. He was doubled teamed this year as the main option many times and still put up 18ppg on a 57% TS%. That's pretty damn good for a SG that attempted 4.1 3's per game. He shot 43% from 3's, 47% from 2's and 82% from the FT line. Go check out the advanced stats for Henderson and get back to me on how great he performed in comparison.


We all hate Henderson, dude.

Like I said, pick 21 from the Thunder seems like a good fit. This is a deep draft and you can get a long term starter there for 2 years of Afflalo.

Good luck with Exum and pick 12 (I have no Earthly idea who will be there).
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