2014 Free Agency Thread

[BeesWax]

what about Andray Blatche?

As a cheap back up to McRoberts sure. As much as I would love to upgrade McRoberts what he does for I team is not easy to replicate. That is why I would love to spend our cash elsewhere and bring in someone like Anderson in the draft to backup McRoberts for a year or two than take over. We need to upgrade our bench. We can either sign guys to push starters to the bench or just bring in better bench guys.

[MasterIchiro]

what about Andray Blatche?

As a cheap back up to McRoberts sure. As much as I would love to upgrade McRoberts what he does for I team is not easy to replicate. That is why I would love to spend our cash elsewhere and bring in someone like Anderson in the draft to backup McRoberts for a year or two than take over. We need to upgrade our bench. We can either sign guys to push starters to the bench or just bring in better bench guys.

The team is built on Kemba + Jefferson.

We went into the offseason needing to upgrade 2 of the 3 other spots.

I'd be extremely disappointed if all we do is upgrade one of them. We have nearly 20 million in cap space, 1 lottery pick in a deep draft and pick 24, in addition to other assets.

There's absolutely no excuse for it.

[BeesWax]

what about Andray Blatche?

As a cheap back up to McRoberts sure. As much as I would love to upgrade McRoberts what he does for I team is not easy to replicate. That is why I would love to spend our cash elsewhere and bring in someone like Anderson in the draft to backup McRoberts for a year or two than take over. We need to upgrade our bench. We can either sign guys to push starters to the bench or just bring in better bench guys.

The team is built on Kemba + Jefferson.

We went into the offseason needing to upgrade 2 of the 3 other spots.

I'd be extremely disappointed if all we do is upgrade one of them. We have nearly 20 million in cap space, 1 lottery pick in a deep draft and pick 24, in addition to other assets.

There's absolutely no excuse for it.

Problem is it is easy to upgrade backups but not starters. I think in the draft there are SG there that upgrade that position. Upgrading McRoberts is not as easy to pull off. We could however get a better bench with a solid backup PF and SF. Getting young guys there who could push MKG and McRoberts down the line.

[MasterIchiro]

As a cheap back up to McRoberts sure. As much as I would love to upgrade McRoberts what he does for I team is not easy to replicate. That is why I would love to spend our cash elsewhere and bring in someone like Anderson in the draft to backup McRoberts for a year or two than take over. We need to upgrade our bench. We can either sign guys to push starters to the bench or just bring in better bench guys.

The team is built on Kemba + Jefferson.

We went into the offseason needing to upgrade 2 of the 3 other spots.

I'd be extremely disappointed if all we do is upgrade one of them. We have nearly 20 million in cap space, 1 lottery pick in a deep draft and pick 24, in addition to other assets.

There's absolutely no excuse for it.

Problem is it is easy to upgrade backups but not starters. I think in the draft there are SG there that upgrade that position. Upgrading McRoberts is not as easy to pull off. We could however get a better bench with a solid backup PF and SF. Getting young guys there who could push MKG and McRoberts down the line.

It's definitely difficult to upgrade starters in the draft, which is why we're so fortunate to have Nik Stauskas there. But then there's that 20 million which should be plenty of money to upgrade either MKG or McRoberts/Zeller.

[BeesWax]

The team is built on Kemba + Jefferson.

We went into the offseason needing to upgrade 2 of the 3 other spots.

I'd be extremely disappointed if all we do is upgrade one of them. We have nearly 20 million in cap space, 1 lottery pick in a deep draft and pick 24, in addition to other assets.

There's absolutely no excuse for it.

Problem is it is easy to upgrade backups but not starters. I think in the draft there are SG there that upgrade that position. Upgrading McRoberts is not as easy to pull off. We could however get a better bench with a solid backup PF and SF. Getting young guys there who could push MKG and McRoberts down the line.

It's definitely difficult to upgrade starters in the draft, which is why we're so fortunate to have Nik Stauskas there. But then there's that 20 million which should be plenty of money to upgrade either MKG or McRoberts/Zeller.

I agree we have the money but not the targets. MKG would be hard to upgrade short of maybe Deng but I am not sure he is worth the asking price. Ed Davis could be an upgrade but not sure. Don't want to lose what. McRoberts provides either. Maybe if we package Zeller and the 24 we can slide up far enough to get two starter level guys from the draft.

[MasterIchiro]

Problem is it is easy to upgrade backups but not starters. I think in the draft there are SG there that upgrade that position. Upgrading McRoberts is not as easy to pull off. We could however get a better bench with a solid backup PF and SF. Getting young guys there who could push MKG and McRoberts down the line.

It's definitely difficult to upgrade starters in the draft, which is why we're so fortunate to have Nik Stauskas there. But then there's that 20 million which should be plenty of money to upgrade either MKG or McRoberts/Zeller.

I agree we have the money but not the targets. MKG would be hard to upgrade short of maybe Deng but I am not sure he is worth the asking price. Ed Davis could be an upgrade but not sure. Don't want to lose what. McRoberts provides either. Maybe if we package Zeller and the 24 we can slide up far enough to get two starter level guys from the draft.

Say we trade Neal + pick 24 to get pick 21 from OKC.

How much is MKG + 21 worth in a trade?

Hayward?

[BeesWax]

It's definitely difficult to upgrade starters in the draft, which is why we're so fortunate to have Nik Stauskas there. But then there's that 20 million which should be plenty of money to upgrade either MKG or McRoberts/Zeller.

I agree we have the money but not the targets. MKG would be hard to upgrade short of maybe Deng but I am not sure he is worth the asking price. Ed Davis could be an upgrade but not sure. Don't want to lose what. McRoberts provides either. Maybe if we package Zeller and the 24 we can slide up far enough to get two starter level guys from the draft.

Say we trade Neal + pick 24 to get pick 21 from OKC.

How much is MKG + 21 worth in a trade?

Hayward?

Not enough to make it worth while. But can Zeller and 21 get us into the low to mid teens?

[MasterIchiro]

I agree we have the money but not the targets. MKG would be hard to upgrade short of maybe Deng but I am not sure he is worth the asking price. Ed Davis could be an upgrade but not sure. Don't want to lose what. McRoberts provides either. Maybe if we package Zeller and the 24 we can slide up far enough to get two starter level guys from the draft.

Say we trade Neal + pick 24 to get pick 21 from OKC.

How much is MKG + 21 worth in a trade?

Hayward?

Not enough to make it worth while. But can Zeller and 21 get us into the low to mid teens?

Who is the PF you like 12-17?

[BeesWax]

Say we trade Neal + pick 24 to get pick 21 from OKC.

How much is MKG + 21 worth in a trade?

Hayward?

Not enough to make it worth while. But can Zeller and 21 get us into the low to mid teens?

Who is the PF you like 12-17?

I would take Anderson or Payne and consider it an upgrade. Also think we could go another route and pick up a new back up PF who can provide what we had already without much trouble.

[MasterIchiro]

Not enough to make it worth while. But can Zeller and 21 get us into the low to mid teens?

Who is the PF you like 12-17?

I would take Anderson or Payne and consider it an upgrade. Also think we could go another route and pick up a new back up PF who can provide what we had already without much trouble.

Eh, those guys are nice picks but McRoberts would own the starter gig for 2 more years, and the cap space heading into the Charlotte Hornets rebranding is unspent. I can't fathom that, however you view the FA targets.

[BeesWax]

Who is the PF you like 12-17?

I would take Anderson or Payne and consider it an upgrade. Also think we could go another route and pick up a new back up PF who can provide what we had already without much trouble.

Eh, those guys are nice picks but McRoberts would own the starter gig for 2 more years, and the cap space heading into the Charlotte Hornets rebranding is unspent. I can't fathom that, however you view the FA targets.

The worst thing you can do is spend just to spend. If we could land a starter that is a n upgrade great but don't overspend on someone about the same as what you got.

[MasterIchiro]

I would take Anderson or Payne and consider it an upgrade. Also think we could go another route and pick up a new back up PF who can provide what we had already without much trouble.

Eh, those guys are nice picks but McRoberts would own the starter gig for 2 more years, and the cap space heading into the Charlotte Hornets rebranding is unspent. I can't fathom that, however you view the FA targets.

The worst thing you can do is spend just to spend. If we could land a starter that is a n upgrade great but don't overspend on someone about the same as what you got.

I don't know if that's how Cho and company view the players I think they have targeted. I think their FA short list looked like this before the lottery:

1-Gordon Hayward (but now they have pick 9, fruitful for SG's + Jazz will hold tight or make high demands)
2-Luol Deng (consummate professional, 2-way win-now player, does everything right)
3-Greg Monroe (life after Big Al)
4-Lance Stephenson (seems risky for them)

Seems Luol Deng has a good chance of being a Hornet. Kemba + Deng + Jefferson can do some damage then you have a deep cast of young, improving support players: Stauskas + MKG + Zeller + Biyombo + pick 24.

[JDR720]

If Deng is the target, 2 years 3rd year team option at 10million, he can teach MKG some stuff similar to how Al will teach Biz/Zeller

[ARHornet]

Deng is a solid player. I really don't want to overpay him on a long term deal. I also believe that while he's a solid player, he is overrated in general. But I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in as long as we don't overpay.

[BeesWax]

He's not "terrible". I'd prefer Gordon Hayward but he's not realistic.

(Turner) would do nothing to help us..

Oh, he would do something, not nothing.

I think the Jazz have enough money to match.

Turner is terrible as a fit for our team.

[BeesWax]

Who is the PF you like 12-17?

I would take Anderson or Payne and consider it an upgrade. Also think we could go another route and pick up a new back up PF who can provide what we had already without much trouble.

Eh, those guys are nice picks but McRoberts would own the starter gig for 2 more years, and the cap space heading into the Charlotte Hornets rebranding is unspent. I can't fathom that, however you view the FA targets.

I think with what he provides McRoberts should be our starter unless we bring in a really high caliber PF. Anderson could pass him in a couple years. Remember you don't need 5 stars you need a few stars a strong bench and a number of quality role players. McRoberts can be a good role player for us we just need to work on gaining one more star and filling out our very weak bench.

[SeanBobcats]

For the power forward position, we'd be best off just staying put with Mcroberts unless there's a guy we can trade for (a guy like taj gibson or paul milsap but he's a reach). No guys in the draft we can get will be a true upgrade and the free agency only has Monroe (who is a bad defender). Don't forget that our foundation is supposed to be defense. I'd be ecstatic if we could acquire Gibson from the bulls, but I think they probably value him too high.

[ARHornet]

I can't seem to decide who I want us to realistically sign from this FA class. No one is jumping out at me as being that special.

[TheKingofSting2]

I can't seem to decide who I want us to realistically sign from this FA class. No one is jumping out at me as being that special.

Lance Stephenson or Gordon Hayward (will probably cost too much)

[ARHornet]

I can't seem to decide who I want us to realistically sign from this FA class. No one is jumping out at me as being that special.

Lance Stephenson or Gordon Hayward (will probably cost too much)

Stephenson is a head case and that scares me. Hayward is overrated and will want too much money. He's a good player, but he's about to get an awful contract.

Just to go through a few others...
Luol Deng is a solid player, but he's gonna get overpaid as well and I feel he isn't as good as some others think he is. Monroe is a awful defender and a terrible fit on this team. Gasol is old and, similar to Monroe, not a good fit. Evan Turner is terrible. Ariza is average.

I just don't see many starting level players that I feel are A.) willing to come here and B.) good value that would help us win. I do think we'll be able to get some solid backups, but none of the "big name" guys jump out at me.

If I had a gun to my head and had to spend our money on a big name guy, I'd probably go with Deng. Stephenson would be my 2nd choice. He has the potential to greatly improve our team or to ruin it.