Official Trade Thread - Part XXVII

[nate33]

My latest:

Wiz trade Porter+Webster for Ryan Anderson
Pelicans trade: Holliday+Anderson+Rivers+2016 1st for Kyrie+Webster+Jack
Cavs trade: Kyrie+Jack for Holliday+Porter+Rivers+2016 NO 1st

I know you are not a Porter fan, but you are giving up way too much for Ryan Anderson. I love Anderson, but it's just not worth it. I'd rather just stick with Gooden and keep our forwards. If we can dump Webster to New Orleans for straight cap relief plus the rights to Pierre Jackson, I'd do it.

[verbal8]

My latest:

Wiz trade Porter+Webster for Ryan Anderson
Pelicans trade: Holliday+Anderson+Rivers+2016 1st for Kyrie+Webster+Jack
Cavs trade: Kyrie+Jack for Holliday+Porter+Rivers+2016 NO 1st

I know you are not a Porter fan, but you are giving up way too much for Ryan Anderson. I love Anderson, but it's just not worth it. I'd rather just stick with Gooden and keep our forwards. If we can dump Webster to New Orleans for straight cap relief plus the rights to Pierre Jackson, I'd do it.

I think the Cavs are getting too much in the deal. Dumping Jack is a serious incentive as is the 2016 NO pick. I don't think they need to get Porter also.

[thinker07]

A writer on ESPN.COM posted a list for a potential trade for Kevin Love for every other team in the NBA. He linked each trade to the Trade Tracker to verify it worked.

For the Wizards he had Beal and Nene for Love and Kevin Martin.

Would you do it?

[stevemcqueen1]

A writer on ESPN.COM posted a list for a potential trade for Kevin Love for every other team in the NBA. He linked each trade to the Trade Tracker to verify it worked.

For the Wizards he had Beal and Nene for Love and Kevin Martin.

Would you do it?

No.

That ESPN article was mostly tongue and cheek. But if you take the trade offers at face value, ours was one of the steepest prices. Minny will probably have to deal Love. And when they do, I bet they get less a lot less back then that hypothetical offer from us.

[Ruzious]

My latest:

Wiz trade Porter+Webster for Ryan Anderson
Pelicans trade: Holliday+Anderson+Rivers+2016 1st for Kyrie+Webster+Jack
Cavs trade: Kyrie+Jack for Holliday+Porter+Rivers+2016 NO 1st

I know you are not a Porter fan, but you are giving up way too much for Ryan Anderson. I love Anderson, but it's just not worth it. I'd rather just stick with Gooden and keep our forwards. If we can dump Webster to New Orleans for straight cap relief plus the rights to Pierre Jackson, I'd do it.

I like mhd's trade there - assuming Anderson's healthy. What am I missing? Just giving up Porter and Webster (who I really don't want for what he's making) for the player who - after Love and Dirk - is the best stretch 4 in the NBA. I don't think it's very hard to find a backup 3 who's going to be as good as Webster will be.

[nate33]

My latest:

Wiz trade Porter+Webster for Ryan Anderson
Pelicans trade: Holliday+Anderson+Rivers+2016 1st for Kyrie+Webster+Jack
Cavs trade: Kyrie+Jack for Holliday+Porter+Rivers+2016 NO 1st

I know you are not a Porter fan, but you are giving up way too much for Ryan Anderson. I love Anderson, but it's just not worth it. I'd rather just stick with Gooden and keep our forwards. If we can dump Webster to New Orleans for straight cap relief plus the rights to Pierre Jackson, I'd do it.

I like mhd's trade there - assuming Anderson's healthy. What am I missing? Just giving up Porter and Webster (who I really don't want for what he's making) for the player who - after Love and Dirk - is the best stretch 4 in the NBA. I don't think it's very hard to find a backup 3 who's going to be as good as Webster will be.

Hmmm. You do have a point there. Make that trade, resign Ariza and Gortat, and use the MLE to find one or two decent swing men (Jodie Meeks? Marvin Williams?) and dangermouse's concerns about depth would be addressed.

I'd probably go ahead and keep Booker for depth since this would be an "all in" move. There is no cap flexibility going forward

PG Wall/Miller
SG Beal/Meeks
SF Ariza/Rice
PF Anderson/Booker/Gooden
C Gortat/Nene/Gooden

[stevemcqueen1]

My latest:

Wiz trade Porter+Webster for Ryan Anderson
Pelicans trade: Holliday+Anderson+Rivers+2016 1st for Kyrie+Webster+Jack
Cavs trade: Kyrie+Jack for Holliday+Porter+Rivers+2016 NO 1st

I know you are not a Porter fan, but you are giving up way too much for Ryan Anderson. I love Anderson, but it's just not worth it. I'd rather just stick with Gooden and keep our forwards. If we can dump Webster to New Orleans for straight cap relief plus the rights to Pierre Jackson, I'd do it.

I like mhd's trade there - assuming Anderson's healthy. What am I missing? Just giving up Porter and Webster (who I really don't want for what he's making) for the player who - after Love and Dirk - is the best stretch 4 in the NBA. I don't think it's very hard to find a backup 3 who's going to be as good as Webster will be.

Perhaps Anderson is third, but you're talking about a gigantic step down from Love and Dirk. Anderson is very solid, but does he really do anything other than shoot threes? He's an incredible 3 pt shooter. But I don't see more there.

Porter has the potential to be much more than Anderson IMO. I wouldn't include him in the deal. Trading Porter now is probably going to entail selling low on him and I think that, in almost every case, we're better off keeping him and not giving up on his potential. If NO put Anderson on the block and wanted Webster, I'd try something other than Porter or feel OK walking away from the deal.

[penbeast0]

(a) If I knew Love would resign with us, I'd deal Nene and Beal for him and Martin.

(b) I'd rather have Webster going forward than Ariza. I just don't think Ariza is going to maintain the level he played at this year and someone is going to regret giving him long term money . . . again.

[GhostsOfGil]

(a) If I knew Love would resign with us, I'd deal Nene and Beal for him and Martin.

(b) I'd rather have Webster going forward than Ariza. I just don't think Ariza is going to maintain the level he played at this year and someone is going to regret giving him long term money . . . again.

Even if we could only convince Love to opt in for his final year ala Dwight Howard in Orlando, I still pull the trigger. No brainer for me.

[Rafael122]

(a) If I knew Love would resign with us, I'd deal Nene and Beal for him and Martin.

(b) I'd rather have Webster going forward than Ariza. I just don't think Ariza is going to maintain the level he played at this year and someone is going to regret giving him long term money . . . again.

Our perimeter defense would be absolutely atrocious. I think Ariza needs to be brought back under this scenario.

[montestewart]

(a) If I knew Love would resign with us, I'd deal Nene and Beal for him and Martin.

(b) I'd rather have Webster going forward than Ariza. I just don't think Ariza is going to maintain the level he played at this year and someone is going to regret giving him long term money . . . again.

Our perimeter defense would be absolutely atrocious. I think Ariza needs to be brought back under this scenario.

Beal's a better defender than Martin, Nene's a better defender than Love, losing Ariza on top of that, the team would lose a lot of the players instrumental in the team's defense improving so drastically. Gortat gives effort at times, but his defense disappears at other times. The team's new defensive identity might be very short lived with those changes.

[Youheardme90]

It would be a so Wizards move to go after Love.

[nate33]

It would be a so Wizards move to go after Love.

No it wouldn't. When is the last time the Wizards went after a legit top 10-15 player in the league?

[mhd]

It would be a so Wizards move to go after Love.

No it wouldn't. When is the last time the Wizards went after a legit top 10-15 player in the league?

GIlbert? (He did make three all-NBA teams)


With that said, my top offer is Nene+Porter+2016 1st+2018 1st+2020 1st

[dangermouse]

Agreed. Adding Beal to the deal will be a mistake. I have a feeling Ernie would pull the trigger though, even without assurances that Love would stay.

[Illuminaire]

I think the key in any Kevin Love trade is to make sure your people get his people to apply pressure in the Timberwolves organization. If Love can artificially deflate his own trade value, that's better for him in the long term.

[verbal8]

It would be a so Wizards move to go after Love.

No it wouldn't. When is the last time the Wizards went after a legit top 10-15 player in the league?

GIlbert? (He did make three all-NBA teams)

I would agree that Gil was a top 10-15 player in the NBA as a Wizard. However he wasn't there yet when the Wizards signed him.

I think you have to go all the way back to the Chris Webber trade to find something comprable to the Wizards acquiring Love.

[payitforward]

(a) If I knew Love would resign with us, I'd deal Nene and Beal for him and Martin.

(b) I'd rather have Webster going forward than Ariza. I just don't think Ariza is going to maintain the level he played at this year and someone is going to regret giving him long term money . . . again.

Our perimeter defense would be absolutely atrocious. I think Ariza needs to be brought back under this scenario.

Beal's a better defender than Martin, Nene's a better defender than Love, losing Ariza on top of that, the team would lose a lot of the players instrumental in the team's defense improving so drastically. Gortat gives effort at times, but his defense disappears at other times. The team's new defensive identity might be very short lived with those changes.

Nene played 1500 minutes last year and not much more the year before. He makes $13m. Any trade that gets him gone and reduces/shortens committed $$ is a good trade for the team.

That said, I would have no interest in acquiring Kevin Martin.

Anyway, I don't think Ernie would trade Beal, and I don't think anyone is eager to acquire Nene. Plus, I do think we'll re-sign Ariza.

[nate33]

No it wouldn't. When is the last time the Wizards went after a legit top 10-15 player in the league?

GIlbert? (He did make three all-NBA teams)

I would agree that Gil was a top 10-15 player in the NBA as a Wizard. However he wasn't there yet when the Wizards signed him.

I think you have to go all the way back to the Chris Webber trade to find something comprable to the Wizards acquiring Love.

Yes. That was the point I was trying to get across. It's been a long time since the Wizards have had the credibility and boldness to go after a legit top 10-15 player. It's definitely NOT a #soWizards move.

[penbeast0]

You may not like Kevin Martin, which is understandable considering his lack of defensive effort though his offense is still pretty outstanding, but . . . the TWolves don't want him if they get Beal. He would be a short term rental here like he was in OKC most likely.