Andrew Wiggins is Harrison Barnes

[JoeyCrawford]

athletically Wiggins is on another level...he is on the same level as LeBron, Westbrook, Dwight etc. Elite athletes. Barnes is a good not elite athlete so they are different.

Lets settle down comparing his athletic ability to the likes of Lebron and Westbrook.

Why ? He definately is on that level.

I've struggled to find any clips from his college campaign that I can say is even relatively close to what Lebron and Westbrook have been doing to grown men in the NBA. Maybe you can toss some links my way?

[The Infamous1]

He's a more athletic prime shawn marion

[Okada]

This OP doesn't mean anything. Wiggins is two levels above Barnes as an athlete and has a way higher ceiling than Barnes ever did.

[Illmatic12]

Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

Maybe more MKG than Barnes

I'd disagree with that as well. MKG can't shoot anything, Wiggins has a dependable mid range game. And Wiggins is much much quicker than MKG.

Wiggins really doesn't have a "dependable" midrange game

And that comparison is unfair to MKG in a way, because his ballhandling was miles ahead of Wiggins coming out of college. I think Wiggins will be better than MKG, but just saying.. his ballhandling is way below average which is a problem

[Kabookalu]

Wiggins won't develop a yo yo handle or the type to dribble around the perimeter in crunch time surveying the floor and deciding how he wants to attack the defense, but he can develop handles that are good enough to attack the basket on a consistent basis.

[Tave]

Maybe more MKG than Barnes

I'd disagree with that as well. MKG can't shoot anything, Wiggins has a dependable mid range game. And Wiggins is much much quicker than MKG.

Wiggins really doesn't have a "dependable" midrange game

And that comparison is unfair to MKG in a way, because his ballhandling was miles ahead of Wiggins coming out of college. I think Wiggins will be better than MKG, but just saying.. his ballhandling is way below average which is a problem

Compared to whom?

I agree that MKG is a better ball handler, and I love him as a player, but that dude literally can't shoot. He's a useless point of comparison.

[Hardcore6erFan]

Wiggins best case scenario is Iguodala. Anyone comparing him to LeBron or McGrady is crazy.

[Lost Angel]

Iguodala? I think Wiggins will be much better than Iggy ever was.

on both offense AND defense.

[ISB]

Barnes is very mechanical. I think Wiggins has a bit more fluidity to his game. I don't expect him to live up to a #1 overall though. I think a Marion or Iggy type of player would be the best case scenario. I would take him over Barnes, though (who is not very good).

[NaturalBuns]

He's a more athletic prime shawn marion

I do see the Marion similarities with the athletic ability.
Both have a crazy 2nd jump.

[83SixersRocked]

And both of them have last names with two vowels.

[Torres]

I too think that Wiggins is overrated as a future HOF type talent. And let's not forget that Barnes' got hops also!

[hands11]

clearly the scouts didn't think that highly of Barnes as "his hype" considering he went 7th overall

Wiggins is a possible #1 pick in a loaded draft.

We will see about this so call loaded draft.

Anyway, I would take Jabari Parker or Joel Embiid .

Also Nik Stauskas and Shabazz Napier would be players I want on my team.

[will]

That's so cold.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Barnes' HS teammate, Doug McDermott, may actually become a better pro.

I think Wiggins is much quicker and more explosive than Barnes. I have a hard time seeing him struggle in the NBA.

Then again, I just knew Michael Kidd-Gilchrist would be a stud. So, who knows ...

[richboy]

I'm sorry this is terrible comparison. Barnes has no handle. Which is why he pretty much a stretch PF in the NBA. Barnes is pretty much another version of Marvin Williams. On a scale of 1-10 Barnes has like a 3 level handle. Which means can't create his own shot vs anyone at the SF position consistently. Wiggins is more like 7. Which would put him as a comparable handle to Durant, and Paul George. He has 2 dribble pull ups. Can get the rebound and take the ball full court.

Wiggins is pretty much a great Iso player who didn't Iso much in college. He is going to go to the NBA and people are going to be surprised how good his handle and driving ability is. The spacing in the NBA is so much better. Unlike college NBA features its best players consistently.

IMO the only player you take in this draft over Wiggins is Embid. Wiggins has Kawhi level defensive potential. At the same time he a far superior offensive talent. Parker and Randle have very high bust potential. I'm not saying they will be bust. I think Parker will at worse be a good NBA player. However Parker has a game built for college basketball. The reality he looks a lot more like poor man Carmelo than Melo 2.0. Which at the NBA level if he is a 20 PPG scorer that be really good. Problem defensively he will give most if not all that back. He has to be 25-28 PPG to justify being taken over Wiggins or Embid. I do not think he is that level of a scorer. Simply put I would question taking any bad defensive front court player high in the draft. No way I would take one over any two way player.

[Marvin Martian]

I think his ceiling is K Leonard and his floor is Gerald Green. A big difference between him and Barnes is that Wiggins will be a bigger threat in transition plus Wiggins has more upside defensively. He still won't be a star, and expecting him to make gigantic leaps in skill is setting yourself up for disappointment. As long as a team doesn't reach on him, and he is put in a position where he won't have to do too much, he will be fine.

[Colbinii]

4 inch vert difference is a lot.

Especially at the height they are at. The difference from 40 to 44 is much larger compared to say, 34 to 38.

[Illmatic12]

I'd disagree with that as well. MKG can't shoot anything, Wiggins has a dependable mid range game. And Wiggins is much much quicker than MKG.

Wiggins really doesn't have a "dependable" midrange game

And that comparison is unfair to MKG in a way, because his ballhandling was miles ahead of Wiggins coming out of college. I think Wiggins will be better than MKG, but just saying.. his ballhandling is way below average which is a problem

Compared to whom?

I agree that MKG is a better ball handler, and I love him as a player, but that dude literally can't shoot. He's a useless point of comparison.

Compared to most shotcreating wings in the NBA, Wiggins has a subpar handle.

If you're drafting a player like Wiggins with a top 2 pick, yes the defense and athleticism in transition is great. But you're expecting him to eventually be able to create his own shot and carry a team offensively. I don't see how he'll be able to do that without seriously improving his ballhandling ability. You just don't see players with poor handle and a shaky jumper becoming bigtime scorers

He could potentially become a 20ppg scorer, but he's a LONG way off from that right now. He will have to put in a lot of work.

[richboy]

Wiggins really doesn't have a "dependable" midrange game

And that comparison is unfair to MKG in a way, because his ballhandling was miles ahead of Wiggins coming out of college. I think Wiggins will be better than MKG, but just saying.. his ballhandling is way below average which is a problem

Compared to whom?

I agree that MKG is a better ball handler, and I love him as a player, but that dude literally can't shoot. He's a useless point of comparison.

Compared to most shotcreating wings in the NBA, Wiggins has a subpar handle.

If you're drafting a player like Wiggins with a top 2 pick, yes the defense and athleticism in transition is great. But you're expecting him to eventually be able to create his own shot and carry a team offensively. I don't see how he'll be able to do that without seriously improving his ballhandling ability. You just don't see players with poor handle and a shaky jumper becoming bigtime scorers

He could potentially become a 20ppg scorer, but he's a LONG way off from that right now. He will have to put in a lot of work.

Thing is Wiggins does have a handle. He not an elite handle but it doesn't have to be elite. Similar to Durant his first step and length are so good he gets around opponents. He actually has NBA level step back and 2 dribble pull ups.