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Post#1041 » by Feilong » Tue May 27, 2014 4:58 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:It's hard for me to get excited about any of the SG's at 13 when I look at last year's SG crop and see the impact guys like KCP and Mclemore had.


I blame the teams (DET, SAC, CLE) more than i blame the players. These teams are black holes for young talents.

Btw i am excited only for Stauskas.


What are the L-Wolves then? :o


Add them too. Coach who doesn't give chances to rookies (RA) and assistants who don't want to work with talents (exception Sikma).
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1042 » by AQuintus » Tue May 27, 2014 8:25 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC52lEJGNo4[/youtube]

Kind of stiff and mechanical in the post and with his jumpshot, but he gets up super easily.
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Post#1043 » by AQuintus » Tue May 27, 2014 8:44 pm

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Post#1044 » by C.lupus » Wed May 28, 2014 12:18 am

I can't see Randle or Vonleh there at 8. Boston deal still makes more sense if that's what they are looking for. I still like Payne, too. He can shoot the three and he can do this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JHEnHPeE00[/youtube]
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Post#1045 » by shangrila » Wed May 28, 2014 4:39 am

I don't really get how you look at Randle and think he's a shooter. Obviously his FT% wasn't as abysmal as Gordon's but they're a completely different thing to jumpshots during a game.
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Post#1046 » by Klomp » Wed May 28, 2014 4:46 am

shangrila wrote:I don't really get how you look at Randle and think he's a shooter. Obviously his FT% wasn't as abysmal as Gordon's but they're a completely different thing to jumpshots during a game.

There's a difference between someone who's "a shooter" and someone who "can shoot." Randle "can shoot."
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Post#1047 » by big3_8_19_21 » Wed May 28, 2014 4:51 am

C.lupus wrote:I can't see Randle or Vonleh there at 8. Boston deal still makes more sense if that's what they are looking for. I still like Payne, too. He can shoot the three and he can do this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JHEnHPeE00[/youtube]


Yep, I'm not opposed to Payne at 13, depending on whether or not anyone unexpected slides to us. If Payne slides to 20 or later, I think he'll be the Gorgui Dieng of the draft.
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Post#1048 » by MinneOOPalis » Wed May 28, 2014 5:32 am

Payne has a lung condition that limits his playing time. No thanks.


I would be really happy with either Randle or Vonleh.
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Post#1049 » by big3_8_19_21 » Wed May 28, 2014 5:56 am

He also had mono most of last year and still played 28 mpg. He'll never lead the league in minutes played, but if he's healthy I don't see why he couldn't do 30+ mpg.
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Post#1050 » by MinneOOPalis » Wed May 28, 2014 10:26 pm

Im starting to lean towards Vonleh with the Boston pick. The only thing about him that bothers me is he doesn't seem to have the IT factor that Gordon and Randle both seem to have. Those guys just come off as more intelligent and confident..

He really reminds me of a bigger Tristan Thompson that can shoot, which actually isn't bad at all.


What I like

- HUGE lower body. His legs are like tree trunks. Actually reminds me of Love in this regard, lets him establish position for rebounds and set great picks.

- Hands. 2nd biggest hands ever in the combine (after craig smith :lol: ) . Gives him awesome ball control and lets him catch difficult passes.

- Work Ethic. Basically gained an NBA ready body the summer BEFORE his freshman season. He added 15-20 pounds of straight muscle. One thing that is consistent in all of his scouting reports is that he is a gym rat (cliche, i know) and absolutely loves basketball. Many reports talk about how good of a kid he is.

-Offensive versatility. Has a jumper that goes out to 3 point range, didnt shoot very often but his form looks good. Looks confident taking it too. Has jump hooks from both hands, his footwork needs work though.. but so does Randles and even moreso Gordons. He has a really nice handle for a big man.. uses crossovers and dribble moves in his face-up game.




Theres a lot to like about him. He basically has the physical attributes you would like to see in a big man. The main issue with him is that he seems to think too hard on the court, instead of reacting to a play. It could be an issue with confidence...
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Post#1051 » by mourvedre » Wed May 28, 2014 10:49 pm

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Post#1052 » by AQuintus » Wed May 28, 2014 10:52 pm

Sakuragi_ wrote:Theres a lot to like about him. He basically has the physical attributes you would like to see in a big man.


He has the combine numbers for sure, but I don't think that they translate to actual athleticism on the court.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1053 » by MinneOOPalis » Wed May 28, 2014 11:09 pm

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Sakuragi_ wrote:Theres a lot to like about him. He basically has the physical attributes you would like to see in a big man.


He has the combine numbers for sure, but I don't think that they translate to actual athleticism on the court.


He's really strong and still moves well... In athleticism he really only lacks explosiveness..doesn't get off the ground very quickly.

Randle and Gordon are better all around athletes for sure.
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Post#1054 » by Krapinsky » Wed May 28, 2014 11:34 pm

I prefer Gordon over Randle and Vonleh. Just seems like he's least likely to fail in my opinion.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1055 » by AQuintus » Wed May 28, 2014 11:35 pm

Sakuragi_ wrote:He's really strong and still moves well... In athleticism he really only lacks explosiveness..doesn't get off the ground very quickly.

Randle and Gordon are better all around athletes for sure.


Based on what Doogie was saying in his tweet above, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Vonleh is the top guy (of the three) on the Wolves' board. He's definitely the best shooter of the three, and he's got good defensive potential. Personally, I'd go with Gordon. I want a big that can consistently finish above the rim and act as a lob target for Rubio.
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Post#1056 » by orlandomanic » Thu May 29, 2014 1:11 am

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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1057 » by eyeteeth » Thu May 29, 2014 5:01 am

Just watched the DX interview w Gordon. I like that he is not just always moving physically, but mentally as well. I can just see him continuing to pick up skills. That said, he has quite a few to still pick up. Little to no rebounding, not very many blocks for a guy that size. Doesn't have great defensive footwork from what I can tell (NOTE: absolutely not an authority). He's not next year's starter, and that's for sure. Off the bench with the potential for crunch time if he plays well? I could see it.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1058 » by MinneOOPalis » Thu May 29, 2014 5:43 am

AQuintus wrote:
Sakuragi_ wrote:He's really strong and still moves well... In athleticism he really only lacks explosiveness..doesn't get off the ground very quickly.

Randle and Gordon are better all around athletes for sure.


Based on what Doogie was saying in his tweet above, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Vonleh is the top guy (of the three) on the Wolves' board. He's definitely the best shooter of the three, and he's got good defensive potential. Personally, I'd go with Gordon. I want a big that can consistently finish above the rim and act as a lob target for Rubio.


Im also a fan of Gordon. He seems to have the best personality of the three. Very confident and well-spoken, seems to know his weaknesses and is attacking them right away. Honestly I'd be happy with any of the 3 mian PF's. If we do the Boston deal and can also get Kelly Olynyk and Jeff Green we could probably compete next year.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1059 » by minimus » Thu May 29, 2014 5:45 am

Sakuragi_ wrote:Im starting to lean towards Vonleh with the Boston pick. Theres a lot to like about him. He basically has the physical attributes you would like to see in a big man. The main issue with him is that he seems to think too hard on the court, instead of reacting to a play. It could be an issue with confidence...


I'm in, if the package will be Sully, Bass, Bogans, #6, #17 for Love, Budinger, Shved. It will give us deep, balanced roster, without additional trades. Draft and sign FA wisely. I used to be a big fan of Livingston, but now I don't see him as right fit next to Rubio. in Brooklin Kidd used Williams-Livingston combo. But with Rubio it won't work and this fact will affect Livingston PT. I think we should absolutely grab De Colo for vet min or a bit more, he's big PG, with nice passing skills, his role will be maintain same rhythm in offense. Then find proven shooters (my favorite is Meeks for part of MLE), draft Staukas, draft high potential prospect (Elfrid Payton, Clint Capela, Dinwiddie, KJ McDaniels etc) We need good coach who can use at 100% deep roster, develop young player, use different rotations.

Pek/Dieng/Turiaf
Sully/Bass/Vonleh/Mbah
Green/Brewer/Shabazz
Martin/Meeks/Staukas
Rubio/De Colo/Barea/Payton

Next year Barea, Mbah, Bass contracts will expire.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1060 » by MinneOOPalis » Thu May 29, 2014 5:48 am

minimus wrote:
Sakuragi_ wrote:Im starting to lean towards Vonleh with the Boston pick. Theres a lot to like about him. He basically has the physical attributes you would like to see in a big man. The main issue with him is that he seems to think too hard on the court, instead of reacting to a play. It could be an issue with confidence...


I'm in, if the package will be Sully, Bass, Bogans, #6, #17 for Love, Budinger, Shved. It will give us deep, balanced roster, with additional trades. Draft and sign FA wisely. I used to be a big fan of Livingston, but now I don't see him as right fit next to Rubio. I think we should absolutely grab De Colo for vet min or a bit more, he's big PG, with nice passing skills, his role will be maintain same rhythm in offense. Then find proven shooters (my favorite is Meeks for part of MLE), draft Staukas, draft high potential prospect (Elfrid Payton, Clint Capela, Dinwiddie, KJ McDaniels etc) We need good coach who can use at 100% deep roster, develop young player, use different rotations.

Pek/Dieng/Turiaf
Sully/Bass/Vonleh/Mbah
Green/Brewer/Shabazz
Martin/Meeks/Staukas
Rubio/De Colo/Barea/Payton

Next year Barea, Mbah, Bass contracts will expire.


I would PREFER to give them Martin in the deal. Would also prefer Olynyck over Bass..

I would also try to pressure them into giving us their Brooklyn Picks.. Or both. Ainge would hardball us though, he would realize we think he has the best package.

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