Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[MrPerfect1]

Just my opinion, but Jabari is Carmello Anthony. Many discount the comparison with concerns that Parker is less athletic and has a worse first step. I can't remember a perimeter guy who was as big, skilled, and strong as Jabari at 19 years old. I would take Embiid first, but Jabari second without a pause. Has the talent to lead the league in scoring once / if Durant ever slows down.

If this is true, then I think that is an argument against taking Jabari. This is what I am afraid of. Melo has consistently been among the most overrated players in the league and many advanced stats ranked Melo as the worst of the 5 starters on many of the Denver teams he was on.

I'd take someone with 2 way potential over the next Melo who rarely makes his teammates better and is far from an asset on defense.

[Licensed to Il]

Carmello is a fantastic basketball player. He does have flaws, he also can do things no one else can. Many thought he was the best player during Olympic play. I agree his defense is average and that he is a ball stopper. But you can have any stat that says Aaron Affalo or Wilson Chandler is better.

Two thoughts, just because someone says a prospect has a similair skillset as another doesn't fate the prospect to the same career arch. Jabari is highly unlikely to play for an underachieving George Karl team or marry a MTV personality and force a trade to NY. Secondly, the hope of the comparison is that Jabari has the potential to have the same elite versatile scoring skills, while avoiding some of Mello's flaws. The truth is that niether (the good or the bad) are a given.

[Nycballa2k]

Has anyone stopped to consider that Parker might be Michael Beasley?

[Frank Nova]

Anyone who would stay away from a prospect because they are compared to Carmelo Anthony just sounds ridiculous.

[Baddy Chuck]

If I thought Parker had a 50% shot at being Carmelo, flaws and all, I might take him over Embiid.

[JustinCredible]

Has anyone stopped to consider that Parker might be Michael Beasley?

I think intelligence and character are polar opposites for these two. I think really poor intelligence and/or really poor character can destroy a player. I think below average intelligence/character can be overcome. Beasley falls in the 'really poor' category. Jabari is a plus character and plus intelligence guy. I think he will find a way to not be a waste of space.

Derrick Williams might be a better 'bust' comparison though if you had to find one.

Personally I don't see Parker's floor being that low.

[JustinCredible]

If I thought Parker had a 50% shot at being Carmelo, flaws and all, I might take him over Embiid.

I think he has a chance to be better than Carmelo. I think his rebounding and passing will be better. I think his leadership and character will be better. If he finds a way to improve defensively I think the sky is the ceiling for him.

I still prefer Wiggins because I love the thought of the size, athleticism, defensive ability, and 'wow' playmaking ability that him and Giannis would bring to the table together.

I do kind of like the thought of the leadership, character, and overall great attitudes of pairing Jabari and Giannis. They would be very likable and easy to root for. This shouldn't override the importance of talent but what's wrong with having talent plus all that?

Hoping for Wiggins but fine with Jabari.

[arizonabuck]

Aren't some of you concerned that Coach K couldn't get Jabari to play decent defense? Coach K is a great coach, yet had to remove Jabari at the ends of games for defensive purposes. Why do some of you think a pro coach will get Jabari into better shape than Coach K? Couldn't it be the opposite? When the prospects are relatively close, go with the athleticism. I'd put Jabari 4th behind Exum.

[Jez2983]

For the millionth time, I love that we have these debates. Would've never thought it at the start of the season.

We've got 4 excellent prospects to pick from. Just fantastic.

Carry on

[El Duderino]

For the millionth time, I love that we have these debates. Would've never thought it at the start of the season.

We've got 4 excellent prospects to pick from. Just fantastic.

Carry on

This is so true. What a refreshing change from having to debate instead who the Bucks are going to take in the say 8th to 15th range after yet another futile chase for an 8th seed at best. Not only that, this happened in a year where the draft looks to have some higher end talent at the top, even if it lacks a surefire superstar. We also have new ownership.

So while i prefer certain guys over others among the top four prospects, all are intriguing enough that i can't imagine right now at least that i'd be majorly upset if any of those four were to be the one chosen.

[blazza18]

I think Exum has the "it" factor.

[cinematographer]

I think Exum has the "it" factor.

I think he's going to be an absolute monster. A hybrid Rose/Parker/Manu on O and a plus defender.

If Embiid isn't in this draft, Exum's my no. 1 going away. If we end up with Embiid, our plan better be put shooters around Giannis and Embiid, with Wolters trying to be a Tony Parker impersonator on O.

[Tug0bwerdna]

Parker because hes from Chicago and will stay in Milwaukee and he plays like Big Dog

[breakchains]

I think Exum has the "it" factor.

I think he's going to be an absolute monster. A hybrid Rose/Parker/Manu on O and a plus defender.

If Embiid isn't in this draft, Exum's my no. 1 going away. If we end up with Embiid, our plan better be put shooters around Giannis and Embiid, with Wolters trying to be a Tony Parker impersonator on O.

Exum may be a great player, but the Rose/Westbrook comparisons need to stop. He isn't in their stratosphere as an athlete. I could see a long Tony Parker, which is a great compliment.

[tyland]

I keep changing my mind every day as to who the pick should be. Sold on Embiid being number one. Number 2 is a coin toss (albeit a three sided coin - so not the best example) between Wiggins, Parker and Exum.

Very glad I'm not the decision maker on this one. I really don't care who we take as long as we get the pick right.

I will say each of those 3 have different but appealing aspects to them. Exum with his passing, elite first step and size for his position. Wiggins with his D, his scope for improvement and world class athleticism. Parker with his intangibles, scoring touch and leadership qualities.

Argh. Can't decide!

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[bigballajohn]

If Embiid is there, we have to take him. It becomes harder if he goes #1, which I think he will. I don't like Parker, I just don't see him panning out. Between Wiggins and Exum is tough. It's the known versus unknown. I like the intangibles Wiggins has like his athleticism and length, which would fit well with Giannis and Sanders. Exum would be a great compliment to Knight, especially if his shooting catches up.

With the talent at top, it's an exciting time to be a Bucks fan


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[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Parker because hes from Chicago and will stay in Milwaukee and he plays like Big Dog

Worst possible argument for Parker.

[Ill-yasova]

Has anyone stopped to consider that Parker might be Michael Beasley?

I think intelligence and character are polar opposites for these two. I think really poor intelligence and/or really poor character can destroy a player. I think below average intelligence/character can be overcome. Beasley falls in the 'really poor' category. Jabari is a plus character and plus intelligence guy. I think he will find a way to not be a waste of space.

Derrick Williams might be a better 'bust' comparison though if you had to find one.

Personally I don't see Parker's floor being that low.

Yeah the Beasley comparison doesn't work at all. Beasley was a hell of an athlete in college, but he had no actual discernible basketball skills. He was a bad ball handler who didn't really have any go-to moves in college.

[JustinCredible]

I think Exum has the "it" factor.

I think he's going to be an absolute monster. A hybrid Rose/Parker/Manu on O and a plus defender.

If Embiid isn't in this draft, Exum's my no. 1 going away. If we end up with Embiid, our plan better be put shooters around Giannis and Embiid, with Wolters trying to be a Tony Parker impersonator on O.

Exum may be a great player, but the Rose/Westbrook comparisons need to stop. He isn't in their stratosphere as an athlete. I could see a long Tony Parker, which is a great compliment.

Totally agree that the Rose/Westbrook comparisons are off-base. He may be an athlete but he consistently attempts layups instead of dunks in-game. He isn't even close to an explosive finisher.

[damecurry]

Just my opinion, but Jabari is Carmello Anthony. Many discount the comparison with concerns that Parker is less athletic and has a worse first step. I can't remember a perimeter guy who was as big, skilled, and strong as Jabari at 19 years old. I would take Embiid first, but Jabari second without a pause. Has the talent to lead the league in scoring once / if Durant ever slows down.

If this is true, then I think that is an argument against taking Jabari. This is what I am afraid of. Melo has consistently been among the most overrated players in the league and many advanced stats ranked Melo as the worst of the 5 starters on many of the Denver teams he was on.

I'd take someone with 2 way potential over the next Melo who rarely makes his teammates better and is far from an asset on defense.

He's a melo without a deep shot. Give me Wiggins or even Exum personally. Their worth the shot.