Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[europa]

we could probably get a 1st for Ersan if we eat some toxic contract, Boozer as mentioned.

Yup, I could see that too.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think Ersan could net us as high as the Suns pick #17 if we package say #36 with him

I'd be shocked if a team parted with a Top 20 pick for Ilyasova unless he was combined with something more valuable than a second. I think late first is the best you're gonna get for him and at this point I'd take it with the hope I could package that and 36 and try to move up.

imo the best chance to get value for him is at the deadline assuming he's playing well early next yr. Teams just have too many other options in the summer. Why would a team with cap space give up a 1st rounder for him when they could simply sign someone just as good in free agency and not give up the asset?

Maybe late in summer you would have a chance to get a late 2015 1st for him from a team that feels they are a piece away and has struck out in free agency.
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[Badgerlander]

I think Ersan could net us as high as the Suns pick #17 if we package say #36 with him

I'd be shocked if a team parted with a Top 20 pick for Ilyasova unless he was combined with something more valuable than a second. I think late first is the best you're gonna get for him and at this point I'd take it with the hope I could package that and 36 and try to move up.

I screwed that up, the Suns pick is #18. They have picks #14, 18, and 27. They need vets to help them get in the playoffs next year. I think we could get #27 from them straight up, but I'd see what we could do to get #18 out of them. They are not going to use all three picks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

we could probably get a 1st for Ersan if we eat some toxic contract, Boozer as mentioned.

I think we probably could get another pick pretty easy just paying straight cash, maybe give up some 2nds. Not every team wants another guaranteed contract.

are teams really still selling picks? I could be wrong but I don't think that's happened since the new cba. Those cheap rookie deals have more value than ever before.

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[europa]

I'd take 27 for Ilyasova in a heartbeat. If I'm Phoenix, though, I'm using all three picks as a way to try and move into the lottery and possibly the Top 10 if possible. I would only consider the late first for middling vet route if all attempts to do so failed.

[JayMKE]

Ersan + Delfino for Boozer + #19 works

I'd push it and ask for #16 but Chicago can just waive Boozer. Ersan and Delfino give them 3 point shooting and can contribute to a playoff run.

Pick a guy like GRIII, Zach LaVine, Kyle Anderson

maybe they'd bite on #16 if we added #31, 5 rookies would be a lot altho we could use those extra picks to pick guys to stash overseas.

[Badgerlander]

I'd take 27 for Ilyasova in a heartbeat. If I'm Phoenix, though, I'm using all three picks as a way to try and move into the lottery and possibly the Top 10 if possible. I would only consider the late first for middling vet route if all attempts to do so failed.

The picks that are available are 6-8 and all of those teams want veteran players, not more, lower picks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd take 27 for Ilyasova in a heartbeat. If I'm Phoenix, though, I'm using all three picks as a way to try and move into the lottery and possibly the Top 10 if possible. I would only consider the late first for middling vet route if all attempts to do so failed.

yeah I live in Phoenix and am a bball polygamist with the suns and bucks equally my favorite teams. I can't see them using their cap space on Illysova. They see themselves as players in the free agent market the next two yrs. and if fry opts into the final yr of his deal (which he probably will) they don't really have a use for Ersan with him and Morris manning the 4 spot. I do think phoenix will try like hell to move up in the draft or will throw a big package at Atlanta if a guy like Horford came available.

Heck I've heard from credible sources that phoenix turned down 1st rounder or Archie griffin for Thad young last deadline so I can't see them offering more for a lesser player in Illysova.

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[Badgerlander]

Ersan + Delfino for Boozer + #19 works

I'd push it and ask for #16 but Chicago can just waive Boozer. Ersan and Delfino give them 3 point shooting and can contribute to a playoff run.

Pick a guy like GRIII, Zach LaVine, Kyle Anderson

maybe they'd bite on #16 if we added #31, 5 rookies would be a lot altho we could use those extra picks to pick guys to stash overseas.

Chicago isn't taking back ANY gtd salary, would make zero sense on their part especially giving up a pick. I do agree that we could probably buy Miami's pick though.

[Badgerlander]

I'd take 27 for Ilyasova in a heartbeat. If I'm Phoenix, though, I'm using all three picks as a way to try and move into the lottery and possibly the Top 10 if possible. I would only consider the late first for middling vet route if all attempts to do so failed.

yeah I live in Phoenix and am a bball polygamist with the suns and bucks equally my favorite teams. I can't see them using their cap space on Illysova. They see themselves as players in the free agent market the next two yrs. and if fry opts into the final yr of his deal (which he probably will) they don't really have a use for Ersan with him and Morris manning the 4 spot. I do think phoenix will try like hell to move up in the draft or will throw a big package at Atlanta if a guy like Horford came available.

Heck I've heard from credible sources that phoenix turned down 1st rounder or Archie griffin for Thad young last deadline so I can't see them offering more for a lesser player in Illysova.

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Why would Frye opt in? He's 31, this is his last shot at landing a new contract that would be for more than 1 year.

[JayMKE]

We def could get a late pick, we have two 2nd round picks that are pretty high.Some teams at the back end of the 1st would rather take a guy in the 2nd on a non-guaranteed contract than pick like #29 or whatever.

[europa]

I'd feel a lot more confident about the Bucks' potential to acquire a second first-round pick if someone other than Hammond was calling the shots on draft night.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd take 27 for Ilyasova in a heartbeat. If I'm Phoenix, though, I'm using all three picks as a way to try and move into the lottery and possibly the Top 10 if possible. I would only consider the late first for middling vet route if all attempts to do so failed.

yeah I live in Phoenix and am a bball polygamist with the suns and bucks equally my favorite teams. I can't see them using their cap space on Illysova. They see themselves as players in the free agent market the next two yrs. and if fry opts into the final yr of his deal (which he probably will) they don't really have a use for Ersan with him and Morris manning the 4 spot. I do think phoenix will try like hell to move up in the draft or will throw a big package at Atlanta if a guy like Horford came available.

Heck I've heard from credible sources that phoenix turned down 1st rounder or Archie griffin for Thad young last deadline so I can't see them offering more for a lesser player in Illysova.

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Why would Frye opt in? He's 31, this is his last shot at landing a new contract that would be for more than 1 year.

Honestly I've thought the same thing but everything I've heard locally is he's probably opting in. He did struggle shooting late in the yr and maybe his agent thinks he would only get around 3 mil per on a new deal so he'd rather take the 6.8 this yr and try again in the summer of 15.

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[Chuck Diesel]

Ersan Ilyasova and Brandon Knight to Memphis for #22, Tayshaun Prince's final year, Nik Calathes and Jon Luer.

[paulpressey25]

I'd feel a lot more confident about the Bucks' potential to acquire a second first-round pick if someone other than Hammond was calling the shots on draft night.

Every year you'd come on here and say that you've gotten word Hammond is trying to get an additional first rounder..... Yeah, he's got to go, or else let Morway cut deals.

As it relates to Ersan, I still think Houston would have interest. Would need to be creative, but he'd fit down there.

[europa]

I'd feel a lot more confident about the Bucks' potential to acquire a second first-round pick if someone other than Hammond was calling the shots on draft night.

Every year you'd come on here and say that you've gotten word Hammond is trying to get an additional first rounder.....

And he did try. Not my fault he failed.

Don't get the Morway fascination. He should go too. I'd be cutting ties with the whole lot of 'em.

[Chuck Diesel]

I really think a Brandon Knight, Ersan Ilyasova package could fetch us something tasty in the draft. I want to believe we trotted Knight the lottery and declared him a vital part of our future to just to boost his value.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I really think a Brandon Knight, Ersan Ilyasova package could fetch us something tasty in the draft. I want to believe we trotted Knight the lottery and declared him a vital part of our future to just to boost his value.

oh yeah if knights included I could see a decent asset coming back.

Anyone listen to zach lowes podcast last week. They were talking about how it's hard to assess value to the middle of the pack point guards with there being so many good/decent ones in the league right now. The specifically mentioned a guy like knight wanting a 10 mil a yr extension.

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[El Pooch Grande]

I'd think if we draft Parker it would be for the following reasons (I slightly favor Wiggins after Embiid btw):

- Hammond might think he's the second best prospect in the draft, and he might very well be (or tied for it for that matter).

- He measured 6'9 (in shoes) so he has size to play PF in the NBA. Especially if the team has a lengthy SF and C combo to pair him with (i.e. our Bucks).

- Start of the college season he just tore it up. Immediate impact player.

- Perhaps more wins immediately to "sell" the new arena and also help Hammond keep his job.

- Alpha male scorer. Bucks are lacking one and as a team they were 28th in scoring. They also lacked scoring on the front line.

- Great teammate

- Super high character. Would be the face of the franchise in an utmost positive way.

- Likely to stay loyal to the franchise (super loyal, super high character, from Chicago) for the next decade

- Solves our PF woes we've had since Anthony Mason, etc for the last 15 years.

Note: These are just my opinions only and is not to say the other prospects don't exhibit these.

Could not have said this better myself. Parker doubters should read all of these bullet points very carefully, especially the ones about character and loyalty, which are being completely overlooked by many in this process.

[Bucksfan28]

I really think a Brandon Knight, Ersan Ilyasova package could fetch us something tasty in the draft. I want to believe we trotted Knight the lottery and declared him a vital part of our future to just to boost his value.

Think it just depends on finding the right buyer. Chicago and OKC perhaps? Both have multiple 1sts and may be looking to move at least one for a more immediate impact player.