Otto Porter

[Illmatic12]

Porter exit interview:

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... rview-2014

Says he'll focus on shooting and ballhandling this summer. I like how he said that Ariza has been mentoring him and he's trying to emulate his playing style somewhat.. it'll be great if we can sub-in Otto for Ariza and not notice a huge dropoff. We just need him to knock down open threes on offense, and defensively learn to use his length.

I've seen him hit a lot of 3s in warmups, practice... His shooting form is a bit more refined than it was this time last year. I think he'll be a good 3 point shooter.

If he can improve his ball handling, it'll be huge. Just seeing what Kawhi Leonard is doing off the dribble and emulating some of Tony Parker's moves is mind-blowing right now to me. Hopefully Otto can improve it to where he can create something out of nothing.

John is relied a lot and Beal sees that.

Yeah, it seems he's got a solid shooting stroke. He doesn't miss in warmups, which doesn't mean much but still.. at least we know he's not a MKG

My minimum expectation for him next year is to be able to knock down open threes from Wall, that's all he has to do to earn PT.

[dckingsfan]

Porter exit interview:

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... rview-2014

Says he'll focus on shooting and ballhandling this summer. I like how he said that Ariza has been mentoring him and he's trying to emulate his playing style somewhat.. it'll be great if we can sub-in Otto for Ariza and not notice a huge dropoff. We just need him to knock down open threes on offense, and defensively learn to use his length.

I've seen him hit a lot of 3s in warmups, practice... His shooting form is a bit more refined than it was this time last year. I think he'll be a good 3 point shooter.

If he can improve his ball handling, it'll be huge. Just seeing what Kawhi Leonard is doing off the dribble and emulating some of Tony Parker's moves is mind-blowing right now to me. Hopefully Otto can improve it to where he can create something out of nothing.

John is relied a lot and Beal sees that.

Yeah, it seems he's got a solid shooting stroke. He doesn't miss in warmups, which doesn't mean much but still.. at least we know he's not a MKG

My minimum expectation for him next year is to be able to knock down open threes from Wall, that's all he has to do to earn PT.

By the end of next year he may end up being a pretty good defender and offensive rebounder - ok, I might be a bit optimistic.

[dangermouse]

I have faith in Otto

If Ariza walks i think we'll be ok

[BruceO]

I believe he'll be ok as well. In fact I think he's going to be good and expect him to be a better overall player than ariza eventually.
its a good thing he's had ariza to mentor him and watch defense from because he has potential on that end.
usually when I look at prospects they sometimes have holes in their game and are a liability in some aspect. eg walls shooting and turnovers. hardens defense. shabazz lack of floor game. javales iq. nick not rebounding. With porter there were a lot of questions that needed to be answered and I believe despite not playing much some have been answered.

He won't be limited by lack of basketball iq. He won't be limited to having to play on ball since he cuts alot. He won't be a limited rebounder, from practice they say he's one of the teams best rebounder, he had a game with high rebounds and was a good rebounder in college and high school and has still potential to improve his body to make him better. He won't be limited by lack of height and length since he's in the ariza, paul george range. He will play defense and can learn from ariza. We thought he'd be slow of foot and unathletic but he showed some foot speed and ups.

only questions for me now is how good his shooting is and handle to figure how good a scorer he could be. how fast and athletic is he? This aspect has helped Paul george rich another tier and may be the only true separation between them. How much he can develop his body to be strong and explosive.

so really that's all I want. become a good scorer enough to prevent cross matching of larger defenders on Beal and become strong and explosive

[jivelikenice]

Shameless plug alert! Check it out if you guys get a chance....
http://wizofawes.com/2014/05/29/washing ... to-porter/

[Ruzious]

I have faith in Otto

If Ariza walks i think we'll be ok

In the long run, I think ottO will be as good as Ariza, but not likely so in the short run. Based on how management has been managing fan expectations, I think they are willing to spend the money to avoid falling back in the short run.

[dckingsfan]

I wonder if they have changed their minds on these rankings

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nba ... on-wizards

[keynote]

I wonder if they have changed their minds on these rankings

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nba ... on-wizards

Considering that Eric Maynor is ranked ahead of...anyone, I'd say that that these rankings are extremely dated.

[hands11]

Shameless plug alert! Check it out if you guys get a chance....
http://wizofawes.com/2014/05/29/washing ... to-porter/

Yesterday 9:47 pm by hands11

I 2nd the shameless plug alert. Check it out if you get a chance.

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I think most of what ails Ottoman is going to get solved with the 20 pounds he will add to that 6-8 1/2 20 year old frame over the next 2 years. Once he has that to go along with two dedicated years of working on his handles, I think he will look a lot different then people think of him right now. I don't think he is nonathletic as much as he is just to light.

His handles are already a ton better then Trevor A's. I know..not saying much but point is, I think most have a pretty easy time with expecting that he will be able to rebound ( has already does that ), and hit the 3 ( vastly improved in college ) Add to that, he just spent a lot of time working on the his NBA 3 this year. Add another summer of that, and he should look similar to a TA type right out of the box, but his handles are better and they will get better still.

How does he measure up ?

TA is 6-8 220. Paul George is 6-9 220 One big difference between the two is, PG can dribble and is more athletic. I think Otto will look more athletic when he added 20 lbs of muscle. Maybe not PG athletic, but good enough to get it done. The added muscle is going to help his ability to dribble because he won't get bumped off course so easy. They have Otto listed at 6-8 1/2 200. But I'm not sure that is the case anymore. He already looked bigger by the end of the year. I think he was working out with Gortat. Maybe he was already up to 205.

Two year projection. If you like what Trevor A does, you are going to like Ottoman at 22 years old 220-225 lbs

Otto Porter 9 Points/1 Dunk Full Highlights (4/11/2014)

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33LmhSDmZw[/youtube]

Wizard need to make sure they get Gortat resigned. If Trevor A wants to much, they might need to walk away because by the following year, I think Otto will be ready to start.

I'm getting kind of excited to see Otto next year. This team hasn't had a legit tall SF prospect in a long time. CB was fun. I was a big fan but he was a little undersized by today standard at 6-7, if he is really even that.

[jivelikenice]

I'd be really curious to see where he stands today in terms of height, weight, strength, & wingspan...the minutes are so minuscule that it barely qualifies but when he did get into games post all star break he just seemed more caught up physically. He also looked as though he might be the 3rd tallest player on the roster after Gortat and Néne. Additional length and learning how to use it could help compensate for the lack of some raw explosiveness. I can't wait for summer league. Hopefully they have a half decent point guard so we can better evaluate him....

[hands11]

I'd be really curious to see where he stands today in terms of height, weight, strength, & wingspan...the minutes are so minuscule that it barely qualifies but when he did get into games post all star break he just seemed more caught up physically. He also looked as though he might be the 3rd tallest player on the roster after Gortat and Néne. Additional length and learning how to use it could help compensate for the lack of some raw explosiveness. I can't wait for summer league. Hopefully they have a half decent point guard so we can better evaluate him....

Otto Porter 20 at combine -2013
Ht 6' 7.5'
Ht (w/ Shoes) 6' 8.5''
Wt 197.6
Wingspan 7' 1.5'
Reach 8' 9.5''
Body Fat 6.7
No Step Vert 27.0
No Step Vert Reach 11' 0.5"
Max Vert 36.0
Max Vert Reach 11' 9.5"
Bench 185 lbs 9
Agility 11.25
Sprint 3.40

Paul George 20 at combine - 2010
Ht 6' 7.75'
Ht (w/ Shoes) 6' 8.75''
Wt 214
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Reach 8' 11"
Body Fat 5.0
Bench 185 lbs 4 - no other data available

Seems to be some wiggle room on standing reach. Otto is .25 shorter with 2.25" adv in wingspan but has 1.5" shorter reach ? I trust height and wingspan more then reach.

And just for fun..
Kevin Durrant 2007
Ht 6' 9"
Ht (w/ Shoes) 6' 10.25"
Wt 215 - Now he is 240
Wingspan 7' 4.75
Reach 9' 2"
Body Fat 6.6
No Step Vert 26.0
No Step Vert Reach 11' 4"
Max Vert 33.5
Max Vert Reach 11' 11.5"
Bench 185 lbs - 0
Agility 12.33
Sprint 3.45

Check this out.. They say PG grow to 6-10 224 by age 21
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... ast-season

Beal grow a little last year. Who is to say Otto haven't grown some.

[hands11]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHsSCFGIw4M[/youtube]

Played center in highschool. Never shot the 3.
So he practiced. Following year, he could hit the 3.
Georgetown connection with the pros to continue practicing

Defense.
Working the corner 3

Player of the year

This kid is going to be more then fine.

Man, they had him in Cleveland or Detroit.

[dckingsfan]

Come Hands, let's be a little optimistic - All Star next year.

[hands11]

So where would Otto get slotted in this years draft ?

As a SF, he would clearly be getting compared to

Parker and Wiggins and maybe James Young

[Dark Faze]

So where would Otto get slotted in this years draft ?

As a SF, he would clearly be getting compared to

Parker and Wiggins and maybe James Young

He'd be at the top of my third tier of players, so basically 8-11.

I think he's going to be better than Wiggins personally, but that's only because I think Wiggins is Barnes 2.0.

Objectively speaking Otto would go between 8 and 13 in this draft.

Prominent guys I'd take him over - Randle, Gordon. I'd struggle with a choice of him or Harris or Vonleh though.

[hands11]

So where would Otto get slotted in this years draft ?

As a SF, he would clearly be getting compared to

Parker and Wiggins and maybe James Young

He'd be at the top of my third tier of players, so basically 8-11.

I think he's going to be better than Wiggins personally, but that's only because I think Wiggins is Barnes 2.0.

Objectively speaking Otto would go between 8 and 13 in this draft.

Prominent guys I'd take him over - Randle, Gordon. I'd struggle with a choice of him or Harris or Vonleh though.

By Draft standards and hype, I think teams tend to go with the more athletic players first though Ben McLemore went 7th last year.

Where they go clearly has to do with who is picking as well.

MIL I think is a wild card. They would actually be better off with Randell. Not sure they pick him, but they would be best served to end up with him.

I could see Otto going top 6 maybe top 5. But he could clearly slip all the way down depending because every team doesn't need a SF. Would the Sixer take two ? Parker and Otto at 10th ? No later than 11th I would think to Denver.

Embiid
Randell
Parker
Marcus Smart
Wiggins

Would be interesting to read some views on how he compares to Parker and Wiggins.

He has the reach on Parker 7' 1.5" vs 6' 11.5" and they are the same size. Clearly he is lighter. He scores similar numbers with more assists and steal. Clearly a better defender. And teams had a 2 year history on his so they could see how he improved.

Hey, its Otto's B Day today 06/03/1993 He should be 21 now. Now he can go get his drink on.

Parker is born 03/15/1995

Anyway, I find the Parker vs Otto comparison to be pretty interesting. Parker have more moves on offense, but Otto is the better defender.

Really makes you think about the Trevor A situation. I could so easily see them letting him walk, signing Gortat, A Miller, Gooden and Booker, picking up Darren Collison, adding Okafor and calling it a day at around 65M. But if TA wants to stick around for 8M, I think they do that at 73M lux taxing being 77M

If they get TA at that price, they look to move Webby and get off that multiyear which could save them 6M in 2015 to go with Nene's $13,000,000 expiring in 2016

[hands11]

Comparing Otto, Parker and Wiggins

Enjoy

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ari-parker

[fishercob]

Comparing Otto, Parker and Wiggins

Enjoy

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ari-parker

WOW hands. Thanks for posting. That's exciting stuff.

[nuposse04]

Comparing Otto, Parker and Wiggins

Enjoy

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ari-parker

While I want Porter to do as good as those guys just like any of the wiz fans here, comparing his sophomore season to those guys rookie campaigns is a bit off I think. Even if it is just 1 year, development matters....I do think Parker is overrated though.

[fishercob]

Comparing Otto, Parker and Wiggins

Enjoy

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ari-parker

While I want Porter to do as good as those guys just like any of the wiz fans here, comparing his sophomore season to those guys rookie campaigns is a bit off I think. Even if it is just 1 year, development matters....I do think Parker is overrated though.

I don't see anything "off" with comparing them. What may be "off" is the conclusions one would draw from those comparisons. I don't think anyone is arguing that Porter is going to be better than Wiggins or Parker; I'm not.

But the notion that he's a "bust" -- as Lord Ignoramus Tony Kornheiser called him at the end of yesterday's PTI -- doesn't strike me as credible when his sophomore season compares favorably to the frosh campaigns of two guys at the top of what's being called "historically strong" draft class. (run on sentence FTW).

I think Porter is going to turn out to be a very good player. He may not end up with any single elite skill, but I think he's going to do a host of things well and very few things poorly.