The Dante Exum Thread

[BadMofoPimp]

I think the Magic would be safer drafting Smart/Gordon then just trade for Anthony Morrow.

Because, Anthony morrow has had more than 2 awesome games in his career.

Morrow is a FA

PERFECT! There is your Exum Lite.

[thelead]

I think the Magic would be safer drafting Smart/Gordon then just trade for Anthony Morrow.

Because, Anthony morrow has had more than 2 awesome games in his career.

So today's flavor is Anthony Morrow? I thought you were still on the Reece Gaines thing...

[thelead]

I think the Magic would be safer drafting Smart/Gordon then just trade for Anthony Morrow.

Because, Anthony morrow has had more than 2 awesome games in his career.

Morrow is a FA

PERFECT! There is your Exum Lite.

You are NEVER living this down if this guy turns into an allstar.

[MagicFan101]

Unfortunately we can't see the workouts but the same decision had to be made in 2004. I think we chose Dwight not because we loved him, it's just that we didn't love Okafor; so we went with the potential instead.

You would think that Exum would have to blow away the Magic front office for them to take him over Smart or Randle (and possibly Vonleh). There is too much to like about those prospects to just take Exum on a whim. That said, I fully expect that Exum performs well and that we draft him if the top 3 US prospects are gone.

I think this is a great comparison.

First off, let me clarify that my concerns are irrelivent now that we have the #4 pick. If we were sitting at the #2 pick and considering Exum over whichever two of the big 3 are left I would be terrified. At #4 Exum has to be the pick.

As for Dwight vs. Okafor I think it was very clear that Okafor would be a productive big man in the NBA who could come in and play very well from day one but lacked that extra gear expected of super stars. Dwight came in and blew us away in workouts.

Okafor's situation reminds me a lot of Marcus Smart. I expect him to have a long, very productive career and be a great asset but I don't see a super star in him. The question now is which type of unknown commodity is Exum? Dwight Howard or Darko Milicic? At #4 we aren't in a situation of passing on Wiggins / Parker as Detroit did with Melo, Wade and Bosh but there are other strong players out there after the big 3.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think the Magic would be safer drafting Smart/Gordon then just trade for Anthony Morrow.

Because, Anthony morrow has had more than 2 awesome games in his career.

So today's flavor is Anthony Morrow? I thought you were still on the Reece Gaines thing...

Exum is starting to prove me wrong! Too much ESPN and Kyler tweets I reckon.

[BadMofoPimp]

At #4 we aren't in a situation of passing on Wiggins / Parker as Detroit did with Melo, Wade and Bosh but there are other strong players out there after the big 3.

You won't lose with Smart or Randle, but would be taking a risk with Vonleh a bit but a massive risk with Exum. Could be Darko or could be Deron or could be average.

[yoyojw17]

The Bucks new owner Edens (the guy with the hot daughter) basically just told fans they want Jabari or Embiid, so I guess you're looking at Wiggins or Exum at #4. I think Embiid is firming up for #1, I never really thought he was in doubt to be honest.

Well if is the case and those two will for sure be gone by then.... depending on how philly feels about Wiggins....they can draft him....or trade down to utah's,boston,la or sac picks and get randle plus another asset. ie. Boston's 6th and 17th pick for the Wiggins and even one of their 10 2nd round picks. I think randle would be a great person next to noel. And with the 10th pick they can pick up a player like stauskas. that would produce a very decent starting lineup from day 1.

MCW
Stauskas
Young
Randle
Noel

and in that case... exum could also be available to us as well. I really can't believe any of that... trading MCW for Exum stuff. Just smoke and mirrors thrown out there. ROY.... traded after his 1st year....ehhhhhh.... even though it wasn't a win due to his insurmountable talent....but mainly poor draft pool. We will see what starts panning out over the next few weeks.

[MagicFan101]

At #4 we aren't in a situation of passing on Wiggins / Parker as Detroit did with Melo, Wade and Bosh but there are other strong players out there after the big 3.

You won't lose with Smart or Randle, but would be taking a risk with Vonleh a bit but a massive risk with Exum. Could be Darko or could be Deron or could be average.

Yeah, everyone is claiming Orlando loves Exum simply because we need a PG for the future and Henny is one of the few people to go and see Exum play. No where in the reports does it say that Henny actually liked what he saw...

We had many reports last year that Henny was infatuated with Marcus Smart. Now, that was a lesser quality draft so the goal was more to get a long term, quality starter than a super star but still...

Henny has earned my trust as having an eye for talent. I just want to wait until he actually has a workout with Exum and we start hearing that he loves what he sees (not just that he saw him) before I get overly excited.

[BadMofoPimp]

At #4 we aren't in a situation of passing on Wiggins / Parker as Detroit did with Melo, Wade and Bosh but there are other strong players out there after the big 3.

You won't lose with Smart or Randle, but would be taking a risk with Vonleh a bit but a massive risk with Exum. Could be Darko or could be Deron or could be average.

Yeah, everyone is claiming Orlando loves Exum simply because we need a PG for the future and Henny is one of the few people to go and see Exum play. No where in the reports does it say that Henny actually liked what he saw...

We had many reports last year that Henny was infatuated with Marcus Smart. Now, that was a lesser quality draft so the goal was more to get a long term, quality starter than a super star but still...

Henny has earned my trust as having an eye for talent. I just want to wait until he actually has a workout with Exum and we start hearing that he loves what he sees (not just that he saw him) before I get overly excited.

You know what we learned last year was that Henny leaked absolutely nothing regarding what he does or does not like.

Thus, Not One Insider can say that the Magic like Exum and be truthful about it without an actual Source.

[thelead]

At #4 we aren't in a situation of passing on Wiggins / Parker as Detroit did with Melo, Wade and Bosh but there are other strong players out there after the big 3.

You won't lose with Smart or Randle, but would be taking a risk with Vonleh a bit but a massive risk with Exum. Could be Darko or could be Deron or could be average.

Yeah, everyone is claiming Orlando loves Exum simply because we need a PG for the future and Henny is one of the few people to go and see Exum play. No where in the reports does it say that Henny actually liked what he saw...

We had many reports last year that Henny was infatuated with Marcus Smart. Now, that was a lesser quality draft so the goal was more to get a long term, quality starter than a super star but still...

Henny has earned my trust as having an eye for talent. I just want to wait until he actually has a workout with Exum and we start hearing that he loves what he sees (not just that he saw him) before I get overly excited.

No one knows if Henny loves him but we do know that there are reports that we scouted Exum more than any other team.

[BadMofoPimp]

No one knows if Henny loves him but we do know that there are reports that we scouted Exum more than any other team.

Can I see the reports? Was this an article or something? Got links?

[MagicFan101]

You know what we learned last year was that Henny leaked absolutely nothing regarding what he does or does not like.

Thus, Not One Insider can say that the Magic like Exum and be truthful about it without an actual Source.

This is true of Henny, but there are leaks in his staff (just like any other) as we had a pretty good idea on where he was going last year.

Marcus Smart was "the guy" until he pulled out of the draft. After that, the closest thing the draft had to offer for a tough nosed, high character (this was before the shove), ultra-athletic guard was Dipo. We knew very well what Henny wanted and who he thought fit that description best. Just about everyone expected it to be Dipo as we closed in on draft night.

Still, this could be a much different draft. With Irving and Waiters in place, I think we knew Cleveland was not taking a guard so it was easier for Orlando to leak news on who they liked at #2. This year we are more at the mercy of the teams ahead of us and that makes leaks more dangerous. We might not here nearly as much as we did last year (which still wasn't much).

[MagicFan101]

No one knows if Henny loves him but we do know that there are reports that we scouted Exum more than any other team.

Can I see the reports? Was this an article or something? Got links?

It is in just about every report.

This isn't a case of Henny living in Australia for a year. This is a case where fewer than 5 NBA teams had reps see him in person before the combine. Orlando was one of those and we not only sent a scout, but Henny himself went over. 1 visit > 0 visits.

But again, no one knows what Henny thought of what he saw. People are immediately assuming he walked away in love with Exum.

[BadMofoPimp]

I sure hope Henny is helping that agent build the hype on this kid so that they can do a draft day trade to drop down, still take Smart and have another lottery pick to make that a total of (3) Lottery picks. That would be an epic Henny move.

[thelead]

I sure hope Henny is helping that agent build the hype on this kid so that they can do a draft day trade to drop down, still take Smart and have another lottery pick to make that a total of (3) Lottery picks. That would be an epic Henny move.

Yup... that's it. Henny has time to build up hype on someone he doesn't even want...

[BadMofoPimp]

No one knows if Henny loves him but we do know that there are reports that we scouted Exum more than any other team.

Can I see the reports? Was this an article or something? Got links?

It is in just about every report.

This isn't a case of Henny living in Australia for a year. This is a case where fewer than 5 NBA teams had reps see him in person before the combine. Orlando was one of those and we not only sent a scout, but Henny himself went over. 1 visit > 0 visits.

But again, no one knows what Henny thought of what he saw. People are immediately assuming he walked away in love with Exum.

Quite possibly true but it wasn't Henny that went over there, it was Orlando assistant GM Matt Lloyd.

Then, "Sources" said Matt Lloyd called Henny and we saw this happen.



Make your own conclusions

[MagicFan101]

Quite possibly true but it wasn't Henny that went over there, it was Orlando assistant GM Matt Lloyd.

Hmm, I could have sworn I read "Orlando GM in attendence" for at least one of Exum's games. Perhaps it was in fact "assistant GM" that I read. I'll have to track down that particular article. Either way, this makes the story even cloudier.

[BadMofoPimp]

Quite possibly true but it wasn't Henny that went over there, it was Orlando assistant GM Matt Lloyd.

Hmm, I could have sworn I read "Orlando GM in attendence" for at least one of Exum's games. Perhaps it was in fact "assistant GM" that I read. I'll have to track down that particular article. Either way, this makes the story even cloudier.

Assistant GM is still better than Scout!

[Skin]

You know what we learned last year was that Henny leaked absolutely nothing regarding what he does or does not like.

Thus, Not One Insider can say that the Magic like Exum and be truthful about it without an actual Source.

This is true of Henny, but there are leaks in his staff (just like any other) as we had a pretty good idea on where he was going last year.

Marcus Smart was "the guy" until he pulled out of the draft. After that, the closest thing the draft had to offer for a tough nosed, high character (this was before the shove), ultra-athletic guard was Dipo. We knew very well what Henny wanted and who he thought fit that description best. Just about everyone expected it to be Dipo as we closed in on draft night.

Still, this could be a much different draft. With Irving and Waiters in place, I think we knew Cleveland was not taking a guard so it was easier for Orlando to leak news on who they liked at #2. This year we are more at the mercy of the teams ahead of us and that makes leaks more dangerous. We might not here nearly as much as we did last year (which still wasn't much).

I think our staff is fine with keeping things tight. If anything as we saw in the Dwightmare, it's usually the player's agents and/or friends in the media who end up leaking stuff.

[Optimus_Steel]

It was Matt Lloyd, not Henny.