2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

Hardcore6erFan · Post #2701 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:07 pm

Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Negrodamus · Post #2702 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:15 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Prepare for the storm that is coming your way for suggesting this.

I say no, mainly because if the front office would have listened to me the first time, we would have Cousins right now. That, and I don't think Cousins will want to stay here long term. He wants to win in the near future. That might cause issues.

I'm still wondering why he resigned with the Kings. You can call Cousins a number of things, but he's pretty loyal once he finds a home.

EDIT: But I do think the compensation is equal to obtain him, FWIW.

Hardcore6erFan · Post #2703 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:24 pm

Cousins is signed through 2017-2018 at a very reasonable price.

2014-15 $13,701,250
2015-16 $14,728,844
2016-17 $15,756,438
2017-18 $16,784,031

Hardcore6erFan · Post #2704 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:29 pm

MCW-Stephenson-anyone-Cousins-Noel would be soooooooo much fun

Negrodamus · Post #2705 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:32 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:MCW-Stephenson-anyone-Cousins-Noel would be soooooooo much fun

I'll defend Cousins more than anyone, but even I wouldn't pair him with Stephenson.

Mik317 · Post #2706 » by **Mik317** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:34 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:MCW-Stephenson-anyone-Cousins-Noel would be soooooooo much fun

Cousins would end Lance.

Kobblehead · Post #2707 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:40 pm

That would be like re-creating the Broad Street Bullies on the basketball court.

I'm was a huge Cousins critic over the years, but he plays at such a high level that even I am willing to turn the other cheek in regards to some of his immaturity issues.

If Embiid and Parker are off the board, I'd absolutely choose trading for Cousins over drafting Wiggins or Exum.

AAKing23 · Post #2708 » by **AAKing23** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:09 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Your joking right?

LloydFree · Post #2709 » by **LloydFree** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:13 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Why not just trade #3 and #10 for #1, and take Embiid instead?

Hardcore6erFan · Post #2710 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:14 pm

AAKing23 wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Your joking right?

#3 and #32 I would absolutely do. I would not do #3 and #10.

Hardcore6erFan · Post #2711 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:15 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Why not just trade #3 and #10 for #1, and take Embiid instead?

Cousins fits better with Noel and is already a top 3 center at age 23. Cousins doesn't have major injury concerns. And I love Cousins' attitude 8-)

joefrizzle · Post #2712 » by **joefrizzle** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:19 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:
AAKing23 wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:Would you guys do #3 and #10 for Demarcus Cousins? I would in a heartbeat, I don't care who is available at #3. Cousins/Noel would be so dynamic.

Edit: Looking at past star big man trades and #3 and #10 is too much. #3 and #32 is fair value. But Kings probably wouldn't do that.

Your joking right?

#3 and #32 I would absolutely do. I would not do #3 and #10.

3 and 32 I would definitely do.

Post #2713 » by **dbodner** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:48 pm

In no way do I want to put the future of my franchise in Demarcus Cousins' hands.

DaQuestion76 · Post #2714 » by **DaQuestion76** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:55 pm

joefrizzle wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:
AAKing23 wrote:
Your joking right?

#3 and #32 I would absolutely do. I would not do #3 and #10.

3 and 32 I would definitely do.

I would definitely do 3 and 10 for Embiid if he's healthy. If the scouts are correct he will be better than Bynum and Dwight Howard. Do you remember what we gave up for Bynum? I looked at the Duncan's draft and #3 and 10 were Chauncey Billups and Danny Fortson...My point is, if you think a player will be a great player you trade for them at risk of giving up 2 very good or good players

freshie2 · Post #2715 » by **freshie2** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:00 pm

Always amazed at the amnesia some folks had...lest we forget the Iverson era?? It's great to have all the talent in the world, but if you have a bottom of the barrel head it isn't pretty...

LloydFree · Post #2716 » by **LloydFree** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:10 pm

DaQuestion76 wrote:
joefrizzle wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:
#3 and #32 I would absolutely do. I would not do #3 and #10.

3 and 32 I would definitely do.

I would definitely do 3 and 10 for Embiid if he's healthy. If the scouts are correct he will be better than Bynum and Dwight Howard. Do you remember what we gave up for Bynum? I looked at the Duncan's draft and #3 and 10 were Chauncey Billups and Danny Fortson...My point is, if you think a player will be a great player you trade for them at risk of giving up 2 very good or good players

It's really a no brainier. But amazingly many people think Wiggins and Parker are Embiid's equal, so it wouldn't be a popular move.
Honestly, I think Cleveland would be making a mistake by accepting the offer.

Kobblehead · Post #2717 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:14 pm

Cousins is literally the PERFECT player to play alongside Noel. He allows Noel to play the PF spot defensively and the C position offensively.

Slacktard · Post #2718 » by **Slacktard** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:14 pm

I'm 100% certain Cousins with his insane college Freshman PER of like 35.0 would have been #1 on Hinkie's board that year(even over Wall)

Kobblehead · Post #2719 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:19 pm

Slacktard wrote:I'm 100% certain Cousins with his insane college Freshman PER of like 35.0 would have been #1 on Hinkie's board that year(even over Wall)

Yup.

- 37.3 PER
- length, bulk, ridiculous skill level
- 9.9 DIP%

If it wasn't for his character red flags and weight concerns,he's be among the biggest locks of all-time when he came out.

Anthony Davis was pretty damn certain as well.

Negrodamus · Post #2720 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:56 pm

The interesting part was how gung-ho everyone on here was for Evan Turner.

Considering Cousins over Turner was a joke. Many were saying Turner over Wall if we had the first overall pick (which I thought was simply insane).

I'll admit, I didn't hate Turner, but I knew there were 2 prospects that were better than him: Cousins and Wall. To an extent, I also liked Favors more than him.