My man Gigi Datome confident he can succeed in NBA

[thesack12]

LOL, are we really cherry picking individual games? Other than saying that, I'm not going to comment further on that matter.

Also, considering the offseason has yet to begin meaning all of the draft/free agency/and trade season are still yet to transpire, I think its a little early to evaluate the roster in terms of what minutes/opportunities are available at what positions.

God forbid I show you a video clip where he shoots 6/10 from 3, my fault. I guess that you're right, a career 35% 3 point shooter can't shoot. My bad.

Also, if we sign a SF (which could happen) then obviously Datome won't be our backup because he's not going to beat out Singler. But we don't need to go out and get a starting SF because Singler is more than capable in that role, and if that's the case (and Datome gets his 3 point shot working) then he should be a final backup SF.

Again, I'm not going to comment further on Austin Daye.

I agree on Singler, I'm higher on him than a lot of people. IMO, both backcourt positions are of more concern than SF. I believe Singler can be a passable, because be really isn't going to hurt you in any areas. That said, he is definitely much better suited backing up the wing positions. As a starter he is just ok, but coming off the bench he can be an asset.

Also, we still don't know what the outcome of the Monroe situation will be. If both Greg and Josh are both still on the team entering next season, as unpopular as its going to be, Smith is going to see a lot of time at the 3. If Monroe/Smith/Singler are all on the roster at that point, Datome sure better be able to play some 2 if he wants any minutes whatsoever.

[thesack12]

I've seen both players in Europe and I'm going to say Datome is a way better than Singler. Better defender, better all-around player, better creating his own shot, better post moves, better handles, better mid-range and I think there's a draw between their 3pt shots.

Like I said, I have no idea about anything that occurs overeas.

But until Datome shows any of the things you describe in the NBA, its really a moot point.

[Natopher]

LOL, are we really cherry picking individual games? Other than saying that, I'm not going to comment further on that matter.

Also, considering the offseason has yet to begin meaning all of the draft/free agency/and trade season are still yet to transpire, I think its a little early to evaluate the roster in terms of what minutes/opportunities are available at what positions.

God forbid I show you a video clip where he shoots 6/10 from 3, my fault. I guess that you're right, a career 35% 3 point shooter can't shoot. My bad.

Also, if we sign a SF (which could happen) then obviously Datome won't be our backup because he's not going to beat out Singler. But we don't need to go out and get a starting SF because Singler is more than capable in that role, and if that's the case (and Datome gets his 3 point shot working) then he should be a final backup SF.

Again, I'm not going to comment further on Austin Daye.

I agree on Singler, I'm higher on him than a lot of people. IMO, both backcourt positions are of more concern than SF. I believe Singler can be a passable, because be really isn't going to hurt you in any areas. That said, he is definitely much better suited backing up the wing positions. As a starter he is just ok, but coming off the bench he can be an asset.

Also, we still don't know what the outcome of the Monroe situation will be. If both Greg and Josh are both still on the team entering next season, as unpopular as its going to be, Smith is going to see a lot of time at the 3. If Monroe/Smith/Singler are all on the roster at that point, Datome sure better be able to play some 2 if he wants any minutes whatsoever.

Smith isn't going to play the 3 at all next year. Van Gundy said this ages ago when he accepted the job.

[thesack12]

God forbid I show you a video clip where he shoots 6/10 from 3, my fault. I guess that you're right, a career 35% 3 point shooter can't shoot. My bad.

Also, if we sign a SF (which could happen) then obviously Datome won't be our backup because he's not going to beat out Singler. But we don't need to go out and get a starting SF because Singler is more than capable in that role, and if that's the case (and Datome gets his 3 point shot working) then he should be a final backup SF.

Again, I'm not going to comment further on Austin Daye.

I agree on Singler, I'm higher on him than a lot of people. IMO, both backcourt positions are of more concern than SF. I believe Singler can be a passable, because be really isn't going to hurt you in any areas. That said, he is definitely much better suited backing up the wing positions. As a starter he is just ok, but coming off the bench he can be an asset.

Also, we still don't know what the outcome of the Monroe situation will be. If both Greg and Josh are both still on the team entering next season, as unpopular as its going to be, Smith is going to see a lot of time at the 3. If Monroe/Smith/Singler are all on the roster at that point, Datome sure better be able to play some 2 if he wants any minutes whatsoever.

Smith isn't going to play the 3 at all next year. Van Gundy said this ages ago when he accepted the job.

Saying something and acting on it are two entirely different things.

If both Greg and Josh are in Detroit next season where would Josh play other than the 3? The only other 2 options at that point would be, either make one of them a strict 18 mpg bench player, or give one of them the Maggette treatment. Neither of those are likely to happen.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Saying something and acting on it are two entirely different things.

If both Greg and Josh are in Detroit next season where would Josh play other than the 3? The only other 2 options at that point would be, either make one of them a strict 18 mpg bench player, or give one of them the Maggette treatment. Neither of those are likely to happen.

Smith can play 30 minutes as PF, Monroe 32 minutes between the PF and C and Drummond 34 minutes as C. I think 30 minutes for Monroe could be even better because he could play giving his max effort at high level without being so exhausted because of his athleticism. 30 for Smith, 30 for Monroe and 36 for Drummond, until we trade Smith (who I think could increase his value playing just as PF under SVG), Monroe, both or none.

[thesack12]

^ You're right that is an option at Stan's disposal.

But the problem with that is Smith and Drummond are clearly 2 of Detroit's best defenders while Monroe is a defensive liability. That being the case, SVG will likely want Smith and Drummond on the floor together as much as possible. Monroe is also too talented/valuable of a player to be on the bench. Its the old adage that you want your best players on the floor.

If Smith and Monroe are both in Detroit moving forward, I just don't envision Josh not getting some time at the 3. It may not be as much as last season, but he is probably going to see a good chunk of time at SF. Its just up to Stan to make that work.

[Blkbrd671]

I've seen both players in Europe and I'm going to say Datome is a way better than Singler. Better defender, better all-around player, better creating his own shot, better post moves, better handles, better mid-range and I think there's a draw between their 3pt shots.

Sorry bud but reality is Singler is a better player. As of right now, Singler is our back up SF and has been a main stay in a lot of rotations, while Gigi is a garbage time player. also singler is half decent at defense, from what i've seen from Gigi, he lacks the agility to defend at the NBA level.

[Blkbrd671]

I think Gigi will no longer have excuses under SVG. SVG has made it clear we are buiding around Dre and we need shooters around him. If Gigi is truly the best shooter from Europe then he'll have a role on this team. We'll find out if he can make it at the NBA level or is just another Euro bust. I think the majority of his value to this team would be in a trade.

[ImHeisenberg]

Hopefully Datome can get an opportunity next season. Shooters need to get in-game reps to keep their shooting rhythm, that's why you see these lights out shooters in college get into the NBA, sit at the end of the bench and people wonder why they still don't knock down shots when they're only seeing garbage time.

[Blkbrd671]

Hopefully Datome can get an opportunity next season. Shooters need to get in-game reps to keep their shooting rhythm, that's why you see these lights out shooters in college get into the NBA, sit at the end of the bench and people wonder why they still don't knock down shots when they're only seeing garbage time.

Gigi was given opportunities , and he didn't take advantage of those. In the NBA, you don't sit at the end of a bench because he's shooting well. Also he needs to play defense to get in the game, and he struggles with the speed of the NBA

[ImHeisenberg]

Gigi was given opportunities , and he didn't take advantage of those. In the NBA, you don't sit at the end of a bench because he's shooting well. Also he needs to play defense to get in the game, and he struggles with the speed of the NBA

Cheeks and Loyer never gave anyone a real shot that weren't established players. I'm not going to defend Datome, he isn't a great player. I was speaking strictly to his lack of shooting stroke.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Singler started shooting fu**ing horrible this season and he carried on playing.

[Billl]

Datome's shot may never come around - at least as backup. He was successful as a #1 option with lots of touches. That is an entirely different role than being a spot up shooter. It certainly isn't an easy transition to make. Some guys can come right off the bench and knock down shots. Others need to play their way into a rhythm. I don't know if Datome can do anything else well enough to keep himself on the floor long enough to be a rhythm guy in the NBA.

[wallace72]

He has to get off the bench for more than 30 seconds a game to succeed.

If we sign a decent SF, he probably will be towelwaving at the end of the bench...........

[the_l_train]

Luigi just got signed by Adidas!