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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#981 » by rapz101 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 12:04 am

Double Helix wrote:Nbadraft.net seems much higher on Jordan Clarkson than DX. I think DX has become a little more analytics-based than draft.net which is a little more eye-test based (and far too obsessed with the facial features of players for their player comparisons). Anyway, I hadn't watched Clarkson much but I can see what they find intriguing about him. He's a very smooth athlete (registered a 39 inch vert) and can really move well with the ball at full speed. He has some flare to him.

http://youtu.be/Cg2V-Mis470

His 3 isn't reliable yet but he pulls straight up on a dime almost like Westbrook.


By the eye-test he reminds me of a mix between courtney lee and devin harris prior to the injuries...he seems to have the bounciness of lee and finishing ability of devin harris when he was with the nets, hes definitely intriguing. (his form reminds me of a mix between lee and haaris aswell lol)

But with players like him, the biggest question mark is whether or not his offensive game will translate, cause he is a bit slim right now and i don't know whether or not he'd be able to go coast to coast or push the ball without losing the ball or putting up a wild shot
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Post#982 » by sweetcity » Mon Jun 2, 2014 12:04 am

Im warming up to the greak freak 2.0
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Post#983 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:06 am

sweetcity wrote:Im warming up to the greak freak 2.0


Still like Inglis better though


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Post#984 » by McFurious1 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:38 am

He looks good I'm surprised Masai hasn't shown interest. Hopefully he's laying low. Interesting prospect for sure.

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Post#985 » by cammac » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:58 am

#1 Porzingis need a year or so maybe in Europe but Jonas & Porzingis could dominate at C & PF for years the Baltic Towers.
#37 Inglis again if we could stash him in Europe another year great future SF
#59 would like to move up a bit get Bachynski would be our back-up C next year.

Grab any of Birch, Ejim or Powell who slip through all ready for back-up roles

Obviously like to get a second 1st using 2015 or NYKs 2016 1st to pick up Payton as our back-up PG
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Post#986 » by Dukenukem23 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:59 am

Thanasis has been on my radar since January if this year. He has the same length and build of Thad Young yet he's capable of guarding 1-4 positions on the court. The reach says 8' 8.5" but is closer to 8' 11" as all the prospects that participate in the vertical leap tests tank the standung reach in favour of a higher vert.
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Post#987 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:59 am

McFurious1 wrote:He looks good I'm surprised Masai hasn't shown interest. Hopefully he's laying low. Interesting prospect for sure.

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No one knows what Masai wants to do until Draft day.

Thanasis will be a good pick at 37 if we do not go with a SF at 20. Reminds me of a poor man's Thad Young. Either Inglis or Thanasis will be nice at 37
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Post#988 » by Roland Brice » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:06 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:Thanasis has been on my radar since January if this year. He has the same length and build of Thad Young yet he's capable of guarding 1-4 positions on the court. The reach says 8' 8.5" but is closer to 8' 11" as all the prospects that participate in the vertical leap tests tank the standung reach in favour of a higher vert.


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Post#989 » by Naysorn » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:11 am

With the great things I've heard about Inglis, how come he isn't higher on draft boards?
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Post#990 » by Dukenukem23 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:12 am

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Dukenukem23 wrote:Thanasis has been on my radar since January if this year. He has the same length and build of Thad Young yet he's capable of guarding 1-4 positions on the court. The reach says 8' 8.5" but is closer to 8' 11" as all the prospects that participate in the vertical leap tests tank the standung reach in favour of a higher vert.


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http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bul ... tery-picks

It's pretty common practice now. Not all prospects necessarily do it but more and more players agents are advising guys to skew the results because higher very measurements = better draft placement. I thought this was common knowledge and/or common sense.
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Post#991 » by Calderon » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:13 am

Choker wrote:
Calderon wrote:He's like 21, no? How is that a downside?


He's gonna be 22 soon, equivalent to a junior or senior in college. Not that I think he can't improve, but of course his ability to develop won't be as good as his peers in this draft. I still like what I see from him and think with hard work he'll be great, but his age can't be ignored.

No,he literally just turned 21. It says his birthday pretty clearly in the video YOU posted.
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Post#992 » by Kabookalu » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:19 am

Calderon wrote:No,he literally just turned 21. It says his birthday pretty clearly in the video YOU posted.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanasis_Antetokounmpo

July 17, 1992 (age 21)

The video I posted is way wrong. It even says the date I posted above on Draftexpress' own site.
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Post#993 » by CPT » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:23 am

Seems strange to tank one measurement to boost another, but even if you accept that as something people are doing, there's no point in saying "player X came out at ___ but is really ___", because presumably his peers would have tanked as well.
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Post#994 » by ballislife » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:35 am

Young_Buc wrote:
SkywalkerAC wrote:I mean, this is not an unathletic dude:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoxHiXIqfQ[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgKDPE8X5IM[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVnoJ7CyVSw[/youtube]

You just can't do that stuff at 6'9 without being a stud. With the ball in his hand he's a better basketball athlete than Inglis, and D can round into form. There's a very good chance that he's either the best player available, or the best prospect available, or both.


Impressed with the passing but this video really left more of an impression of Jabari Parkers defense more than Andersons shot creating. Parker is Harden level D.


I think he has a lot of potential at the 3. He brings something different to our wing group with his play making ability. With the training staff we have, I'm not worried about his strength/conditioning. He has a very high BBIQ as a young guy. His shot is slow, but once he improves his release, which he's done in the past season, he's going to be a very valuable player with his size/length as a point forward. I doubt he'll be available at the #20 spot though.

Kyle Anderson’s workout with the Atlanta Hawks went well enough that they want him back for a second showing, his father told SNY.tv Saturday. The 6-foot-9 New Jersey native and former UCLA star worked out for Atlanta on Thursday and he will go back again, although no date has been set. The Hawks pick at No. 15 in the June 26 NBA Draft. “It went really well,” Anderson told SNY.tv. “I think I played as well as I could and I enjoyed it.”


Seems like ATL is really interested in him if they're bringing him in for another workout. I don't think he gets past them at #15.

I think there's a really good chance Tyler Ennis drops to us, which I'd be ecstatic about. A PG rotation of Lowry/Ennis/Vasquez would be great because GV can play SG comfortably at 6"6'. Hope it happens. Ennis and Anderson are my favourites.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#995 » by Roland Brice » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:09 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:Thanasis has been on my radar since January if this year. He has the same length and build of Thad Young yet he's capable of guarding 1-4 positions on the court. The reach says 8' 8.5" but is closer to 8' 11" as all the prospects that participate in the vertical leap tests tank the standung reach in favour of a higher vert.


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http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bul ... tery-picks

It's pretty common practice now. Not all prospects necessarily do it but more and more players agents are advising guys to skew the results because higher very measurements = better draft placement. I thought this was common knowledge and/or common sense.


If you think this is common sense you need to upgrade your knowledge of basketball. You don't defend using only your vertical leap, you defend with your hands up; although it's obvious how this helps guards with the stupidity of some people who value high jumpers over actual basketball players. However, a higher standing reach is actually beneficial whether you understand why or not.

On top of that, I'm not sure how you expect this to be common knowledge when you sourced one article where the author clearly displays sympathy for those who would find skewing your own measurements negatively odd. Also, you provided no proof that Thanasis did that, yet you accuse him of it and then completely disregard the possibility that others could have done it as well.
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Post#996 » by Risk101 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:23 am

Naysorn wrote:With the great things I've heard about Inglis, how come he isn't higher on draft boards?


Lack of exposure. He only averages under 16mins a game for his current team.
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Post#997 » by Kinger95 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:33 am

"Apparently" in a Knicks workout McAdoo got outplayed by some guy names Shawn jones from middle Tennessee state.

It could be a smokescreen so the Knicks can pick him up with a late 2nd that they can buy. Just my opinion. McAdoo measured out better than expected but ya his stock is in the crapper compared to last year.
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Post#998 » by Pass it » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:47 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:Thanasis has been on my radar since January if this year. He has the same length and build of Thad Young yet he's capable of guarding 1-4 positions on the court. The reach says 8' 8.5" but is closer to 8' 11" as all the prospects that participate in the vertical leap tests tank the standung reach in favour of a higher vert.


Source?


http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bul ... tery-picks

It's pretty common practice now. Not all prospects necessarily do it but more and more players agents are advising guys to skew the results because higher very measurements = better draft placement. I thought this was common knowledge and/or common sense.


If that's the case it back fired on Jarnell Stokes and Patrick Young
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Post#999 » by Roland Brice » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:59 am

nahom1319 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:
http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago-bul ... tery-picks

It's pretty common practice now. Not all prospects necessarily do it but more and more players agents are advising guys to skew the results because higher very measurements = better draft placement. I thought this was common knowledge and/or common sense.


If you think this is common sense you need to upgrade your knowledge of basketball. You don't defend using only your vertical leap, you defend with your hands up; although it's obvious how this helps guards with the stupidity of some people who value high jumpers over actual basketball players. However, a higher standing reach is actually beneficial whether you understand why or not.

On top of that, I'm not sure how you expect this to be common knowledge when you sourced one article where the author clearly displays sympathy for those who would find skewing your own measurements negatively odd. Also, you provided no proof that Thanasis did that, yet you accuse him of it and then completely disregard the possibility that others could have done it as well.

Its common knowledge to ANYONE who watches the combine where they mention it a half dozen times. I remember hearing one of the guys go on and on about it last year. Don't get so butt hurt because you didn't know. The poster wasn't trying to hurt your feelings.


I watch the combine every year. But we could probably poll people in here honestly and I doubt the majority would think that guys would cheat on their measurements to get a better vertical, but I guess you're smarter than the rest of us. Also, I'm not sure why you're trying to bait me by calling me "butthurt" but you should relax. Kthxbye.
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Post#1000 » by KillaSham23 » Mon Jun 2, 2014 4:06 am

I wish nba tv covered prospects and workouts or we could watch things online

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