Is LBJ the greatest SF of all time?

[Big NBA Fan]

Not only is he the greatest SF of all time, I already consider him the greatest player of all time, as well.

- He has absolutely no weaknesses in his game.

- He is the best athlete I have ever seen

The only negative things you can say about his NBA career are the 2011 NBA Finals against Dallas and that weird Game 5 performance against Boston in the 2010 playoffs.

The scary part? He's only 29 years old!

[thinktellectual]

But he has to match Bird's 3 out of 5 finals record. A finals record of 2 out of 5(assuming he that loses this year) would be a bad look considering that Bird and Kobe have only lost twice in each of their respective finals appearances. Bird(3 out of 5), Kobe(5 out of 7). Some people would hold that against him even though i think he's better than those two guys and will rank higher than them on the ATG list.

That's some ****.
So Robert Horry is the best PF of all time ?
Dude has 7 rings while Barkley and Malone have none.

Winning is not on one single person. It's a team sport, despite the NBA marketing the superstars.
Had Lebron stayed with the Cavs his entire career and never won a ring, would that make him a worse player ?

Not yet.
IMO lebron is among top 10 all time.

My top 10 goes: Jordan, Kareem, magic, bird, wilt, duncan, shaq, Kobe, lebron, Hakeem.

If he wins a ring, he'll shoot above Kobe obviously, and maybe shaq. Depends ok his production these finals.

Are you sure you're not a Lakers fan ?

Kobe ahead of Lebron ?
Did you also drink the Kool-Aid and believe the number of rings determines how good a player is ?

Your top 10 is all kinds of wrong.

And regardless of what you think of Lebron, Kobe should never be in front of Hakeem, anyway.
NEVER EVER.

Hakeem is the only guy to win a title without a 2nd star next to him, and his peak was better than any C ever, including Shaq and Kareem.

My top 3 is: Jordan, Lebron, Hakeem.
ANd yes, I am docking Wilt and Russell points for playing against inferior opponents and playing on a loaded team respectively.

[contract]

Saw this quote from Larry Legend in an article. Article is very interesting, tells us how similar both players are and yet how different they both are.

“I always said ‘boy I wish I had his speed,’” said Bird. “Kobe was always my favorite since he came out but LeBron is by far the best in the league.”

Full article: http://heatnation.com/editorials/the-gr ... -or-james/

Lebron is the best SF of all time for his all around game. Where he passes Bird is on defense.

[contract]

Yes. I watched bird. Lebron is better.

People constantly talked about Lebron having trouble in the 80s.

I look at it the other way. Bird could not play now. Too fast. Too athletic. He'd just be another guy. It's true.


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Bird was just another guy back then too ... except for all the skill, the great court vision, and the off the charts basketball IQ. If Bird was 30 years old, he'd still be schooling 90% of the NBA.

[ixxa]

Best SF, yes.

GOAT, no at least not yet.

I wached Jordan's 2nd 3peat. I think Lebron is at the same level maybe slightly better than that version of Jordan.

too young to see 1st 3peat of MJ , many hardcore bb fans including my father said that version of MJ is much better the 2nd peat version, considering age that is quite possible because advanced stats indicated so.

I've never been a kobe fans, coz he only copied some of MJ's moves, but a poor man version and not even close.

Ring arguments is all he and his kobetard fans had. He got 5 rings because he played with Prime Prime Prime shark which is the most dominant center I've ever seen in this league. 1mvp+fmvp for kobe and all advanced stats (per winshare eva) also showed the same result.

I really want to see what Jordan / Kobe can achieve in the alternative world which they are drafted by the Cavs.

[number1joker]

yeah lebron is basically number 2 of all time especially if you consier the time periods which all the greats played.

Jordan and Lebron are in their own category imo.

[JesusHCoxMd]

Not yet, but he's got time and means to not only become number 1 at his position, but also become the greatest player of all time.

[HIF]

Let's wait till the end of his playing career

[puppa bear]

Opinions are like arseholes - everybody has one. And mostly they're full of ****.

having said that, here's mine

LeBron is the greatest SF all-time. He has the chance to challenge Jordan for GOAT honors, but still has a long way to go. People will always look back at the ring thing, so just to satisfy the common folk he needs to be 5+ when he reties. But if he continues to produce at the level he has for the past 3 years, over the next 5 then we're looking at comparing the two.

The biggest issue is related to the eras: Jordan was in an era when the NBA needed a single transformative player that could be used to drive the popularity, whilst LeBron is going through all the crap, scrutiny and hate that is associated with this hit-driven shock market the media has created. Everyone wanting their news now, not tomorrow, has made for 24-7 "journalism" where news needs to be made, and the talking heads drive the stupid swings in popularity we see all the time.

I think that athletically & skill wise Jordan would have thrived in the modern game, he might have been even better. But off court all the issues that got swept under the carpet, and his egotism would have been front and centre 24-7. I think Jordan would have been the uber-Kobe, and would be the most polarising player in the history of the NBA if he played today.

[mswenson]

But he has to match Bird's 3 out of 5 finals record. A finals record of 2 out of 5(assuming he that loses this year) would be a bad look considering that Bird and Kobe have only lost twice in each of their respective finals appearances. Bird(3 out of 5), Kobe(5 out of 7). Some people would hold that against him even though i think he's better than those two guys and will rank higher than them on the ATG list.

4 of kobes finals wins were against scrub teams

[jwise44]

But he has to match Bird's 3 out of 5 finals record. A finals record of 2 out of 5(assuming he that loses this year) would be a bad look considering that Bird and Kobe have only lost twice in each of their respective finals appearances. Bird(3 out of 5), Kobe(5 out of 7). Some people would hold that against him even though i think he's better than those two guys and will rank higher than them on the ATG list.

That's some ****.
So Robert Horry is the best PF of all time ?
Dude has 7 rings while Barkley and Malone have none.

Winning is not on one single person. It's a team sport, despite the NBA marketing the superstars.
Had Lebron stayed with the Cavs his entire career and never won a ring, would that make him a worse player ?

Not yet.
IMO lebron is among top 10 all time.

My top 10 goes: Jordan, Kareem, magic, bird, wilt, duncan, shaq, Kobe, lebron, Hakeem.

If he wins a ring, he'll shoot above Kobe obviously, and maybe shaq. Depends ok his production these finals.

Are you sure you're not a Lakers fan ?

Kobe ahead of Lebron ?
Did you also drink the Kool-Aid and believe the number of rings determines how good a player is ?

Your top 10 is all kinds of wrong.

And regardless of what you think of Lebron, Kobe should never be in front of Hakeem, anyway.
NEVER EVER.

Hakeem is the only guy to win a title without a 2nd star next to him, and his peak was better than any C ever, including Shaq and Kareem.

My top 3 is: Jordan, Lebron, Hakeem.
ANd yes, I am docking Wilt and Russell points for playing against inferior opponents and playing on a loaded team respectively.

I like you


Lebron is better overall than legend (I actually take this back but at worst it's a 1a and 1b situation) but I like what that one guy said...Larry really was more of a stretch 4 that happened to play with mchale and Parrish


Magic/Jordan/lebron/legend/HAKEEM....that would be my all time starting 5 if someone put a gun to my head (I would be lying though because one of lebron or magic should be the greatest 6th man of all time and even though I don't like lebron I would start Isaiah Thomas and have magic as the super sub)

[Riley is God]

I think it is insulting to even ask this question. In all seriousness, question that should be asked is , is lebron the greatest PLAYER of all time.