Should the team rebrand? Would you support a rebrand?

[588 2300]

I dont think i ever said you didnt have fans, i said fans i thought wanted something new. how would i be a laker fan when it says bulls on the side and i called it the "fakeshow'. earlier in the thread i wrote about being a fan during the dehere days and the kandiman days... i would be referring to the people i just mentioned which you ignored yet referred to in the first part of your post. I would love to see an anti-laker team. do you know what that means? like an anti-hero? batman? punisher? etc

my question was never answered. i asked if fans cared for the name in the first place before sterling. not if they were fans. if they liked the name or not. plenty of fans of teams wish their team would make changes to the brand. so, it was questions...not insinuating disrespect. get it?

to say whether or not people cared about the Clippers name before Sterling insinuates that there are no long term fans that stretch beyond his reign of terror. although i have become a fan of this team around 1990, which lands me a decade after Sterling's purchase of the franchise, I have met numerous fans that go beyond at the LA Sports Arena back in the day, and a few people who still remember and cherish Bob McAdoo's MVP years from back east right here in my little town in Oregon among the retirees who came from upstate NewYork.

now having said that respectfully first,

you are saying you have been a fan of this team yet you sport the Bulls moniker. this makes you no different than your hated Laker Fans. there are a ton of Laker fans lately who come out and say they have been a fan of the clips all along, that the Clippers have been their second favorite team after their Lakers. you know what that sounds like to me? Donald Sterling. you have a wife whom you have a family with, but you have your second favorite gal out there somewhere because you think that team/gal has something else that interests you, but not enough to divorce your own but to have your guilty pleasure with, behind your number 1's back.

I don't respect cheaters, especially the ones who insinuate that there aren't any whom are truly faithful in a monogamous relationship, whether it is with your spouse, or your team... for the better or worse. in our case, very, very long, dark, worse days we just came out of. we have endured and persevered through it all, and you are basically asking if we would like to have a new face and a dress on our object of love to forget our past. that makes you ignorant.

now, with full courtesy and without profanity, I will nicely ask you, to just take your bulls fandom where it belongs.

...uh what? what the hell are you getting so bent out of shape about? youve repeatedly avoided what i asked or said and its not like i was trolling. i HAVENT been a fan of the clips all along. in fact i dislike them almost as much as the heat right now. not into flop city. at all. I like JJ thats about it. so no, im not trying to bandwagon, I am talking about what clips fans said before the nba gifted paul to them. so, why cant you have a civilized, on point convo, bulls fan or not? im showing interest in your team...

[Neddy]

...uh what? what the hell are you getting so bent out of shape about? youve repeatedly avoided what i asked or said and its not like i was trolling. i HAVENT been a fan of the clips all along. in fact i dislike them almost as much as the heat right now. not into flop city. at all. I like JJ thats about it. so no, im not trying to bandwagon, I am talking about what clips fans said before the nba gifted paul to them. so, why cant you have a civilized, on point convo, bulls fan or not? im showing interest in your team...

Bulls fan here. Always had a LAC soft spot ever since the days of Dehere and later the Kandi-man days.

i wrote about being a fan during the dehere days and the kandiman days...

thanks for showing your true colors, troll.

now be gone!

PS - it's too bad you can't quite comprehend the only language you can understand. when i said

and who are you just referring to wanting a LAC changed because we are too close to LAL? laker fans I presume.

i was obviously referring to those who may or may not have told you that LAC wants a change of identity due to close proximity to the LAL acronym, not that you are a Laker fan posing as a bulls fan. but then again, not surprised that you couldn't get it either.

[mttwlsn16]

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[588 2300]

...uh what? what the hell are you getting so bent out of shape about? youve repeatedly avoided what i asked or said and its not like i was trolling. i HAVENT been a fan of the clips all along. in fact i dislike them almost as much as the heat right now. not into flop city. at all. I like JJ thats about it. so no, im not trying to bandwagon, I am talking about what clips fans said before the nba gifted paul to them. so, why cant you have a civilized, on point convo, bulls fan or not? im showing interest in your team...

Bulls fan here. Always had a LAC soft spot ever since the days of Dehere and later the Kandi-man days.

i wrote about being a fan during the dehere days and the kandiman days...

thanks for showing your true colors, troll.

now be gone!

PS - it's too bad you can't quite comprehend the only language you can understand. when i said

and who are you just referring to wanting a LAC changed because we are too close to LAL? laker fans I presume.

i was obviously referring to those who may or may not have told you that LAC wants a change of identity due to close proximity to the LAL acronym, not that you are a Laker fan posing as a bulls fan. but then again, not surprised that you couldn't get it either.

lets try this one more time... i said i was a fan of the clippers during the dehere/roberts/pooh/sealy years. the harper years. the pike years. the kandiman/chicago connections (q rich and corey) i am not NOW a bandwagon fan like you referred me to. and i actually understand a few languages, but i misread that, and took it in with all the gump you said. i was not talking about an acronym... i was using short hand to describe the 2 teams. just for your sake... i will write "LOS ANGELES LAKERS" and "LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS" even though you seem to have some major complex or stick up your ass that nobody else on your board has. i was really hoping someone else could chime in as what i asked had merit. Also, i never said you said i was a laker fan posing as a bulls fan, i merely thought you called me a laker fan, which i am not. I cant stand the current clips, but troll, that does not make me, because what i was talking about wasnt about DJs lack of offense, blakes whining, cp3s flopping etc anymore than it was about jj being a hell of a pick up or blake stepping his game up. so...im gonna keep posting here, but im not gonna argue with you because everyone else here seems sane, besides you.

[QRich3]

lets try this one more time... i said i was a fan of the clippers during the dehere/roberts/pooh/sealy years. the harper years. the pike years. the kandiman/chicago connections (q rich and corey) i am not NOW a bandwagon fan like you referred me to. and i actually understand a few languages, but i misread that, and took it in with all the gump you said. i was not talking about an acronym... i was using short hand to describe the 2 teams. just for your sake... i will write "LOS ANGELES LAKERS" and "LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS" even though you seem to have some major complex or stick up your ass that nobody else on your board has. i was really hoping someone else could chime in as what i asked had merit. Also, i never said you said i was a laker fan posing as a bulls fan, i merely thought you called me a laker fan, which i am not. I cant stand the current clips, but troll, that does not make me, because what i was talking about wasnt about DJs lack of offense, blakes whining, cp3s flopping etc anymore than it was about jj being a hell of a pick up or blake stepping his game up. so...im gonna keep posting here, but im not gonna argue with you because everyone else here seems sane, besides you.

Listen man, since the Sterling thing started about a month ago, we've had another team's fans coming to this forum nearly every day starting threads to throw backhanded compliments and do general concerned trolling, the two most common being "sorry you have to move to Seattle now" and "since you're all ashamed of being the Lakers little brothers...", which is the premise that you based your initial post on. Now I understand you probably meant well but we're tired of explaining that we don't care about the Lakers any more than for people like you coming every day and mentioning them to us. If you follow that up with ignorant triteness of the "you're floppers and whiners but" sort... well, you're not gonna be very welcome here.

Basically, we're tired that no fan of other team ever comes here to actually discuss basketball, just to keep the hate flowing our way, so we might be defensive at times. But you're not helping to shed those bias we might have.

And by the way, DJ is great for our offense, it's a common but wrong observation to think that because he's unskilled he hurts our offense.

[madmaxmedia]

I say keep the name but change the logo and uniform.

does the name really fit though? its been a pretty medicore team since the name change, and has the stain of sterling on it, plus something not too relatable... maybe go retro and grab an ABA team name if they are allowed...

but i will agree, at the very least, change the color and the logo. Or maybe pull a sixers/wolves kinda thing and just go by "clips"

Well, Los Angeles is a coastal city so it fits as well as it fit in San Diego, and it's actually a more fitting name for a Los Angeles team than the 'Lakers'.

I don't think it's a great name, I just don't think a name change is required to erase the stink of Sterling.

I would welcome a name change if they came up with something good. I could see them considering it. For $2 Billion, the new ownership will certainly have their sights set higher than the old one.

[588 2300]

I say keep the name but change the logo and uniform.

does the name really fit though? its been a pretty medicore team since the name change, and has the stain of sterling on it, plus something not too relatable... maybe go retro and grab an ABA team name if they are allowed...

but i will agree, at the very least, change the color and the logo. Or maybe pull a sixers/wolves kinda thing and just go by "clips"

Well, Los Angeles is a coastal city so it fits as well as it fit in San Diego, and it's actually a more fitting name for a Los Angeles team than the 'Lakers'.

I don't think it's a great name, I just don't think a name change is required to erase the stink of Sterling.

I would welcome a name change if they came up with something good. I could see them considering it. For $2 Billion, the new ownership will certainly have their sights set higher than the old one.

Thanks for an honest answer! I agree that the lakers makes as much sense as the utah jazz. I wasnt as curious about it being to erase sterling as we knew NOTHING would change UNDER that scumbag. I was curious if the fans, who were upset by his shallow pockets etc, would welcome a fresh start. Some teams like that, some nets fans, some bobcats fans, some pelicans fans, etc. I just have forever felt that the clippers needed a new logo and color if not name. I think a lot of teams need rebranding in the league, so much blue everywhere or so many red white and blue teams. but i think they could def do something cool with the concept of a clipper, i would love to see a throw back to buffalo or san diego even. thanks for not jumping my ****

[588 2300]

Listen man, since the Sterling thing started about a month ago, we've had another team's fans coming to this forum nearly every day starting threads to throw backhanded compliments and do general concerned trolling, the two most common being "sorry you have to move to Seattle now" and "since you're all ashamed of being the Lakers little brothers...", which is the premise that you based your initial post on. Now I understand you probably meant well but we're tired of explaining that we don't care about the Lakers any more than for people like you coming every day and mentioning them to us. If you follow that up with ignorant triteness of the "you're floppers and whiners but" sort... well, you're not gonna be very welcome here.

Basically, we're tired that no fan of other team ever comes here to actually discuss basketball, just to keep the hate flowing our way, so we might be defensive at times. But you're not helping to shed those bias we might have.

And by the way, DJ is great for our offense, it's a common but wrong observation to think that because he's unskilled he hurts our offense.

I didnt start a thread, i actually was curious because a poster here had started it. You should read the full convo between me and that short tempered guy first. First i say i was a clips fan during tough years, then he says everyone says that now that they are good. then i say i am not a fan now, but i point out both good and bad things about your team showing that i had not even commented ON the players or team itself but brand and image. if you read the whole thing youd realize he got huffy for no reason as i was trying to get clip fan opinions. i dont know what hate i said besides saying i dont like your team now but did during the dark years. if you read my original post, i shed the bias. I cant stand the lakers, never could. ever. and i would love an anti-hero to rise up. not a little brother, but a "we run this town now" kinda brand and team, thats all. ill root clip over laker anytime.

i do know that dj is a perfect fit for that offense, that was never my point, i was just trying to show that i wasnt talking about players either way. i was very jealous that you got some low cost ring chasers at seasons end and but bulls couldnt for our anemic offense. anyway, things seemed stale with sterling so i was just wishing you guys well to maybe do anything he wouldnt let you. understand me now?

[50CALguns]

Which SD logo? This...?

I really like that logo
If the team were to have a name change I think the California Cougars or Los Angeles Cougars sounds good

It's cool for a retro logo; it's very 1970s.

I prefer the current logo. Timeless.

[QRich3]

Was just listening to Bill Simmons latest podcast with Jimmy Kimmel and some other Laker fan douche, apparently they really feel threatened and are even campaigning for us to drop the "Los Angeles" out of our name and put California or Hollywood instead, so in their fantasy they can have LA all for themselves.

I can't help but laugh at this "getting rid of the Sterling stain" thing. As if every time anyone has a bad owner or a bad team they'd need to completely change their identity to forget it. I DON'T WANNA FORGET IT. It's happened and it makes every success we can accomplish all the more sweet because of it.

[madmaxmedia]

Had we just come off successive 15 win seasons and then booted Sterling, then I think more Clipper fans would want a total reboot.

But the Clips have been a relevant team for a few years now and have 2 star players. So while we are all happy to see Sterling finally go, the other aspects of the franchise have been doing well.

[588 2300]

Had we just come off successive 15 win seasons and then booted Sterling, then I think more Clipper fans would want a total reboot.

But the Clips have been a relevant team for a few years now and have 2 star players. So while we are all happy to see Sterling finally go, the other aspects of the franchise have been doing well.

i understand, what i feel that everyone else that has replied to me on here isnt getting is that i merely felt sterling held back maybe changes that could have occurred because he sucked (for years) so again, thanks for givin g your thoughts without twisting what i said. but it does make sense. i can totally see not changing the name and all. but sometimes good teams still redo colors or logos with switching owners (even if the owners arent bad). i think going retro would be cool.

do you notice a lot of bandwagon clips fans the last few years? or this year, converting from the lakers? i feel like i can ask that here without getting banned like if you asked on the heat board a few years back lol

[50CALguns]

Was just listening to Bill Simmons latest podcast with Jimmy Kimmel and some other Laker fan douche, apparently they really feel threatened and are even campaigning for us to drop the "Los Angeles" out of our name and put California or Hollywood instead, so in their fantasy they can have LA all for themselves.

I can't help but laugh at this "getting rid of the Sterling stain" thing. As if every time anyone has a bad owner or a bad team they'd need to completely change their identity to forget it. I DON'T WANNA FORGET IT. It's happened and it makes every success we can accomplish all the more sweet because of it.

I was thinking, maybe going with "California" would expand the brand/fan base reach, strategically, or what have you. But ya know what fugk that.

I'm not even a Laker hater... but fugk them.
L.A. has two teams. Deal with it, puzzies.
If anything, the Inglewood Lakers moved into the Clipper's city.

Oh and looked up the Bill Simmons podcast...(did not listen) that other guy on there is Dave Dameshek. You are spot on when you say "douche". That guy is horrible to listen to. Despicable. He was the worst thing about the Adam Carolla radio show. I avoid anything he does.

[madmaxmedia]

Had we just come off successive 15 win seasons and then booted Sterling, then I think more Clipper fans would want a total reboot.

But the Clips have been a relevant team for a few years now and have 2 star players. So while we are all happy to see Sterling finally go, the other aspects of the franchise have been doing well.

i understand, what i feel that everyone else that has replied to me on here isnt getting is that i merely felt sterling held back maybe changes that could have occurred because he sucked (for years) so again, thanks for givin g your thoughts without twisting what i said. but it does make sense. i can totally see not changing the name and all. but sometimes good teams still redo colors or logos with switching owners (even if the owners arent bad). i think going retro would be cool.

do you notice a lot of bandwagon clips fans the last few years? or this year, converting from the lakers? i feel like i can ask that here without getting banned like if you asked on the heat board a few years back lol

The posters here have been pretty consistent actually, not that many bandwagoners I think. If we went to the NBA Finals that might change.

I wouldn't mind seeing a redesign of logo and colors.

[madmaxmedia]

Was just listening to Bill Simmons latest podcast with Jimmy Kimmel and some other Laker fan douche, apparently they really feel threatened and are even campaigning for us to drop the "Los Angeles" out of our name and put California or Hollywood instead, so in their fantasy they can have LA all for themselves.

I can't help but laugh at this "getting rid of the Sterling stain" thing. As if every time anyone has a bad owner or a bad team they'd need to completely change their identity to forget it. I DON'T WANNA FORGET IT. It's happened and it makes every success we can accomplish all the more sweet because of it.

I liked Simmons better when he was just doing his comedic posts about NBA draft night, movie comparisons, etc.

He talks too much like a regular fan (meaning his analysis often seems superficial), for me to really want to listen to his NBA commentary and analysis. It's not that I think he's an idiot, but I don't ever feel like I'm learning anything from him, compared to the better analysts out there.

[Neddy]

came back from my daughter's school band concert night, after last night's my son's baseball game to find this thread once again.

I'm glad MadMaxMedia is a patient man to answer the same damn question for the millionth times. but for me, enough is enough. how many times do we have to address these casual observers throwing in their 2 cents outside looking in?

i for one, am sick and tired of this, for the millionth of times.

**** it. and **** them.