2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[James40]

My big board would shock a lot of people. I have:
#4 Wiggins
#10 Elfrid Payton
#24 Jarnell Stokes
#25 Gary Harris
#42 Mitch McGary

Good. Go make our pick in the Mock on the NBA Draft Forum. Russ Smith is still available as are a number of other guards.

I think Washington is on the board, but if I'm around for the Sixers pick, Russ Smith is ours..

[BullsFTW]

No thanks.

We'll take #16 + Boozer for #54.

Boozer + SAC Pick for Nothing

What do you think your odds are of;

Getting Melo?

Getting Love?

In my opinion, we have a better shot at landing Melo than Love. By the way our team is constructed, Melo is more of a need than Love.

I can't really say what exactly our chances are, but I'm pretty confident from the reports I've been hearing. However, we shall see.

[Agnostifarian]

My big board would shock a lot of people. I have:
#4 Wiggins
#10 Elfrid Payton
#24 Jarnell Stokes
#25 Gary Harris
#42 Mitch McGary

Good. Go make our pick in the Mock on the NBA Draft Forum. Russ Smith is still available as are a number of other guards.

I think Washington is on the board, but if I'm around for the Sixers pick, Russ Smith is ours..

Sweet.

[OleSchool]

Boozer + SAC Pick for Nothing

What do you think your odds are of;

Getting Melo?

Getting Love?

In my opinion, we have a better shot at landing Melo than Love. By the way our team is constructed, Melo is more of a need than Love.

I can't really say what exactly our chances are, but I'm pretty confident from the reports I've been hearing. However, we shall see.

Do you guys need to dump more than Boozer for Melo? I read a WT article that said you guys may have to Taj too

[Winejk]

Thad 10 and 32 to LAL for #7 or Thad 10 and 39 to Sac for 8. Than trade some 2nds to try and get a late 1st rounder around the 20-25 range

I don't know why everybody is willing to trade Thad. I get that he is probably the only trade asset that 1) the Sixers may be willing to part with, and 2) would actually get something useful in return, but I think Thad can be an important part of this team going forward. First of all, as crazy as Hinkie may seem, he's not giving Brett Brown a team of 9 players that are either rookies/2nd year players. Thad is a hard worker and a veteran. Both are needed on the team. And while he's been in the league for what seems like a long time, he's at the early stages of his prime now.

Nobody knows how the draft will eventually work out, but Thad and Noel could be a pretty good tandem in the front court. With the possibility of adding Wiggins/Parker and Stauskas/Harris/McDermott, Thad fits in there pretty well. For sure the team will be able to get up and down the floor and pay with the kind of pace that Brown wants.

Why play all your cards now? Hinkie has a lot of flexibility. Thad is a known commodity around the league. I doubt his trade value changes dramatically in the short term. There is something to be said for waiting for the right opportunity as opposed to jumping at the first one that presents itself. Maybe Philly's cap space combined with Thad could be part of a multi team deal trade featuring Kevin Love (not saying Love necessarily lands in Philly) which would net the Sixers something really good (e.g. a couple of unprotected first rounders and several 2nd rounders like Utah got from Golden State in the Biedriens/Jefferson/Rush trade).

I just don't like the idea of throwing Thad in a trade to move up 2-3 spots from #10. Thad is an asset. Hinkie likes collecting assets. All of us, including Hinkie, would like to parlay some the assets to get better assets. I just don't think a two-for-one (Thad and a pick for one pick) to move up 2-3 picks is the right move now and I'm not sure Thad and #10 for presumably Vonleh/Randle/Gordon is a clear upgrade in assets. I'm excited about Vonleh, Gordon et al, but who is to say any of these guys will end up better than Thad. Thad is a pretty good player right now, and he fits into a team concept really well. He runs the floor, hustles, doesn't need a lot of possession to be effective on offense, plays absolutely great pick and roll defense, is versatile, and is a solid citizen. Philly can definitely use a player like that.

[BullsFTW]

What do you think your odds are of;

Getting Melo?

Getting Love?

In my opinion, we have a better shot at landing Melo than Love. By the way our team is constructed, Melo is more of a need than Love.

I can't really say what exactly our chances are, but I'm pretty confident from the reports I've been hearing. However, we shall see.

Do you guys need to dump more than Boozer for Melo? I read a WT article that said you guys may have to Taj too

Boozer has to be part of a S&T to land Melo, and Philly is the Bulls board fave trading partner. If the Bulls select to sign Melo outright, then Taj & MDJ has to be traded to make cap-space for Melo & Mirotic.

[Agnostifarian]

In my opinion, we have a better shot at landing Melo than Love. By the way our team is constructed, Melo is more of a need than Love.

I can't really say what exactly our chances are, but I'm pretty confident from the reports I've been hearing. However, we shall see.

Do you guys need to dump more than Boozer for Melo? I read a WT article that said you guys may have to Taj too

Boozer has to be part of a S&T to land Melo, and Philly is the Bulls board fave trading partner. If the Bulls select to sign Melo outright, then Taj & MDJ has to be traded to make cap-space for Melo & Mirotic.

If the Sixers/Bulls put together a deal for Boozer and other salaries and draft picks in some form, can it be consummated anytime now or not until the Draft itself?

[LloydFree]

#16 & #19 for #10?

No thanks.

We'll take #16 + Boozer for #54.

Boozer + SAC Pick for Nothing

I'd take that. The 76ers can package the Sacramento pick, with the #10, and get into the top 7 or 8 this year. Just for renting out a portion of our cap space for one year.

[sixers hoops]

No thanks.

We'll take #16 + Boozer for #54.

Boozer + SAC Pick for Nothing

I'd take that. The 76ers can package the Sacramento pick, with the #10, and get into the top 7 or 8 this year. Just for renting out a portion of our cap space for one year.

Which pick?

[LloydFree]

In my opinion, we have a better shot at landing Melo than Love. By the way our team is constructed, Melo is more of a need than Love.

I can't really say what exactly our chances are, but I'm pretty confident from the reports I've been hearing. However, we shall see.

Do you guys need to dump more than Boozer for Melo? I read a WT article that said you guys may have to Taj too

Boozer has to be part of a S&T to land Melo, and Philly is the Bulls board fave trading partner. If the Bulls select to sign Melo outright, then Taj & MDJ has to be traded to make cap-space for Melo & Mirotic.

Can't the Bulls just trade the 76ers Boozer and the non-guaranteed, Lou Amundson, Ronnie Brewer and Mike James, and receive a 20 million dollars trade exemption? That way they can just sign Mirotic first. Then force a sign and trade with the Knicks for Carmelo.

[LloydFree]

Boozer + SAC Pick for Nothing

I'd take that. The 76ers can package the Sacramento pick, with the #10, and get into the top 7 or 8 this year. Just for renting out a portion of our cap space for one year.

Which pick?

The Bulls own the Sacramento Kings 2015, 1st round pick. Its top12 protected. I bet the Kings would jump at the chance to get that pick back, in exchange for moving back 2 spots.

[Agnostifarian]

Russ Smith just got picked. We're up in the Mock. Here are the top 7 players left via DX in order:

Klimenko
Johnny O'Bryant
CJ Wilcox
Jordan Clarkson
Deonte Burton
Jabari Brown
Dwight Powell

Who do you want?

[CoreyGallagher]

Lavine 46" vert in LA.

[PhilasFinest]

Russ Smith just got picked. We're up in the Mock. Here are the top 7 players left via DX in order:

Klimenko
Johnny O'Bryant
CJ Wilcox
Jordan Clarkson
Deonte Burton
Jabari Brown
Dwight Powell

Who do you want?

Id take Wilcox for Powell.

Wilcox is a stroker, and has a decent wingspan....ill take that deep in the 2nd round and have brown and co try to convert him into a danny green.

[PhilasFinest]

Lavine 46" vert in LA.

I figured he'd be impressive in a workout setting....but does anyone think that after impressing at his combine, and continuing to impress in workouts he goes in the top 10???

[joefrizzle]

Thad 10 and 32 to LAL for #7 or Thad 10 and 39 to Sac for 8. Than trade some 2nds to try and get a late 1st rounder around the 20-25 range

I don't know why everybody is willing to trade Thad. I get that he is probably the only trade asset that 1) the Sixers may be willing to part with, and 2) would actually get something useful in return, but I think Thad can be an important part of this team going forward. First of all, as crazy as Hinkie may seem, he's not giving Brett Brown a team of 9 players that are either rookies/2nd year players. Thad is a hard worker and a veteran. Both are needed on the team. And while he's been in the league for what seems like a long time, he's at the early stages of his prime now.

Nobody knows how the draft will eventually work out, but Thad and Noel could be a pretty good tandem in the front court. With the possibility of adding Wiggins/Parker and Stauskas/Harris/McDermott, Thad fits in there pretty well. For sure the team will be able to get up and down the floor and pay with the kind of pace that Brown wants.

Why play all your cards now? Hinkie has a lot of flexibility. Thad is a known commodity around the league. I doubt his trade value changes dramatically in the short term. There is something to be said for waiting for the right opportunity as opposed to jumping at the first one that presents itself. Maybe Philly's cap space combined with Thad could be part of a multi team deal trade featuring Kevin Love (not saying Love necessarily lands in Philly) which would net the Sixers something really good (e.g. a couple of unprotected first rounders and several 2nd rounders like Utah got from Golden State in the Biedriens/Jefferson/Rush trade).

I just don't like the idea of throwing Thad in a trade to move up 2-3 spots from #10. Thad is an asset. Hinkie likes collecting assets. All of us, including Hinkie, would like to parlay some the assets to get better assets. I just don't think a two-for-one (Thad and a pick for one pick) to move up 2-3 picks is the right move now and I'm not sure Thad and #10 for presumably Vonleh/Randle/Gordon is a clear upgrade in assets. I'm excited about Vonleh, Gordon et al, but who is to say any of these guys will end up better than Thad. Thad is a pretty good player right now, and he fits into a team concept really well. He runs the floor, hustles, doesn't need a lot of possession to be effective on offense, plays absolutely great pick and roll defense, is versatile, and is a solid citizen. Philly can definitely use a player like that.

When you say move up a couple spots it does sound like you're not getting much in return, but its a BIG 2-3 spots. For me, the difference between Randle/Smart/Vonleh/Gordon and Stauskas/McD/Harris/Young is HUGE.

[Mik317]

Lavine 46" vert in LA.

I figured he'd be impressive in a workout setting....but does anyone think that after impressing at his combine, and continuing to impress in workouts he goes in the top 10???

I could see Charlotte rolling the Dice on him.

[James40]

Russ Smith just got picked. We're up in the Mock. Here are the top 7 players left via DX in order:

Klimenko
Johnny O'Bryant
CJ Wilcox
Jordan Clarkson
Deonte Burton
Jabari Brown
Dwight Powell

Who do you want?

I'm not updating right or something, wtf do I know about computers, I'm older than Tim Duncan, anyway I didn't see the Washington pick, but if Smith is gone how bout Wilcox? Like finest said, he can shoot.

[Winejk]

Lavine 46" vert in LA.

When I think if Lavine, Harold Minor, aka Baby Jordan, comes to my mind, which I guess would make Lavine Baby Minor in my mind.

Minor was a tremendous athlete known mostly for his incredible vertical leap. I believe he won the slam dunk championship a couple of times. But for all the tremendous athletic ability, he never really posted good stats. He was never an impact player. He played in the NBA for a number of years, but never really met the moniker of Baby Jordan.

Granted Lavine is very young, but I just don't see Lavine translating into a highly productive player in the NBA. If he does, he's going to need a very good development team.

[Winejk]

Thad 10 and 32 to LAL for #7 or Thad 10 and 39 to Sac for 8. Than trade some 2nds to try and get a late 1st rounder around the 20-25 range

I don't know why everybody is willing to trade Thad. I get that he is probably the only trade asset that 1) the Sixers may be willing to part with, and 2) would actually get something useful in return, but I think Thad can be an important part of this team going forward. First of all, as crazy as Hinkie may seem, he's not giving Brett Brown a team of 9 players that are either rookies/2nd year players. Thad is a hard worker and a veteran. Both are needed on the team. And while he's been in the league for what seems like a long time, he's at the early stages of his prime now.

Nobody knows how the draft will eventually work out, but Thad and Noel could be a pretty good tandem in the front court. With the possibility of adding Wiggins/Parker and Stauskas/Harris/McDermott, Thad fits in there pretty well. For sure the team will be able to get up and down the floor and pay with the kind of pace that Brown wants.

Why play all your cards now? Hinkie has a lot of flexibility. Thad is a known commodity around the league. I doubt his trade value changes dramatically in the short term. There is something to be said for waiting for the right opportunity as opposed to jumping at the first one that presents itself. Maybe Philly's cap space combined with Thad could be part of a multi team deal trade featuring Kevin Love (not saying Love necessarily lands in Philly) which would net the Sixers something really good (e.g. a couple of unprotected first rounders and several 2nd rounders like Utah got from Golden State in the Biedriens/Jefferson/Rush trade).

I just don't like the idea of throwing Thad in a trade to move up 2-3 spots from #10. Thad is an asset. Hinkie likes collecting assets. All of us, including Hinkie, would like to parlay some the assets to get better assets. I just don't think a two-for-one (Thad and a pick for one pick) to move up 2-3 picks is the right move now and I'm not sure Thad and #10 for presumably Vonleh/Randle/Gordon is a clear upgrade in assets. I'm excited about Vonleh, Gordon et al, but who is to say any of these guys will end up better than Thad. Thad is a pretty good player right now, and he fits into a team concept really well. He runs the floor, hustles, doesn't need a lot of possession to be effective on offense, plays absolutely great pick and roll defense, is versatile, and is a solid citizen. Philly can definitely use a player like that.

When you say move up a couple spots it does sound like you're not getting much in return, but its a BIG 2-3 spots. For me, the difference between Randle/Smart/Vonleh/Gordon and Stauskas/McD/Harris/Young is HUGE.

Really? Do we really know that Randle/Smart/Vonleh/Gordon are all going to be better than Stauskas/McDermott/Harris/Young? It is still a crapshoot to a certain degree. Perhaps your odds are better picking at #8 than at #10, but nobody knows whether Wiggins will be better than any of these other guys.

We know what Thad is. He is a good NBA player. Not a star. Not an all star. He's the only known commodity in this whole equation. To me it is hard to give up the only known commodity, and a pretty good one, for a chance that #8 is going to turn out to be better than #10. That's high price to pay.