Jabari Parker will be the best player in the 2014 Draft

[HeartBreakKid]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Its ashame that just because Melo is Ball Stopper and the Knicks are terrible..... that they forget just how good Melo is . Easily a Top 10 player


Its like people throw anyway the fact that he lead the entire NBA in scoring last year. and is averaging 26/9 this year. Good luck trying to top that Jabari Parker

Dunno, Melo wasn't "easily" a top ten player last year. Might be one this year, but I don't think it is out of Jabari's Parker's reach to be barely a top ten player.

Parker has better stats than Melo did at his age, I think leading the league in scoring isn't a high priority for someone who might be the #1 pick in the draft. It's not like Melo is the best scorer in the NBA or ever was, so what's even the point of mentioning he lead the league in scoring? Durant had similar PPG but way better %.

[LloydFree]

It is amazing that a player as good as Carmelo Anthony is talked about so disrespectfully. Jabari Parker will have some work to do before he gets to be near the player Carmelo Anthony has become.

[LloydFree]

Pat Connaugton of Notre Dame, just blew past Jabari Parker at the top of the key, and dunked in his face. Parker has real trouble moving laterally, and jumping quickly.

[Talent Chaser]

My analysis of him from the Nd game:
He's really fat

[MalonesElbows]

This is the first game that has given me some doubts about Parker.

[Doctor MJ]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Yes and no.

It's certainly the case that most of what we heard about Melo at Syracuse was good, because why wouldn't we? Basically any prospect who reaches the draft expected to be a lock for Top 5 mostly has great things said about him, and the vast majority of those guys aren't supposed to be perineal all-stars.

That said:

1. People forget that the super-hype around Melo built for quickly with that tournament run. If you look at his accolades and number through the year, they are really pretty modest compared to next level one-and-done guys we've seen more recently.

2. People did say he was too ball dominant at times. It was a matter-of-fact thing. It's typically been seen as something of a given among volume scorers.

We see it as a bigger deal now with Melo first and foremost for the same reason that volume scoring isn't idealized by NBA teams like it used to be. But of course there's also the matter that since Melo's always been (unfairly) compared with LeBron, it's just an obvious difference between them.

[Dr Positivity]

Interesting Jabari note. If you take away the first 3 Gs, in the 11 since he's hitting 30.3% 3pt and is averaging less than 1 3PM a game. His FT% for the season is also just an ok 75%.

Jabari is not such an elite shooting prospect by the numbers IMO

[machu46]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Yes and no.

It's certainly the case that most of what we heard about Melo at Syracuse was good, because why wouldn't we? Basically any prospect who reaches the draft expected to be a lock for Top 5 mostly has great things said about him, and the vast majority of those guys aren't supposed to be perineal all-stars.

That said:

1. People forget that the super-hype around Melo built for quickly with that tournament run. If you look at his accolades and number through the year, they are really pretty modest compared to next level one-and-done guys we've seen more recently.

2. People did say he was too ball dominant at times. It was a matter-of-fact thing. It's typically been seen as something of a given among volume scorers.

We see it as a bigger deal now with Melo first and foremost for the same reason that volume scoring isn't idealized by NBA teams like it used to be. But of course there's also the matter that since Melo's always been (unfairly) compared with LeBron, it's just an obvious difference between them.

I'm not sure I understand point #1. Are you saying his numbers weren't that great for most of the year? Didn't he average like 20 and 10 as a SF as a freshman?

[HeartBreakKid]

It is amazing that a player as good as Carmelo Anthony is talked about so disrespectfully. Jabari Parker will have some work to do before he gets to be near the player Carmelo Anthony has become.

It's disrespectful that one of the greatest prospects in years is being compared to Carmelo Anthony?

[rockmanslim]

My analysis of him from the Nd game:
He's really fat

lol, agree, his pudginess is concerning.

but was it just me, or did he look thinner in the ND game than in earlier games this season? i thought his arms and shoulders looked more defined, but I also thought it might have just been a slimming effect from wearing the dark uniforms.

[Talent Chaser]

He seems to have slimmed down a bit since college basketball season, still have concerns about him being able to defend 4's but his measurements were a lot better than I expected. Whatever liability he will have defending 4's will be an advantage on the offensive end. He's #3 on my big board behind Embiid and Wiggins.

[cedric76]

He has to be a sf

[bigboi]

He seems to have slimmed down a bit since college basketball season, still have concerns about him being able to defend 4's but his measurements were a lot better than I expected. Whatever liability he will have defending 4's will be an advantage on the offensive end. He's #3 on my big board behind Embiid and Wiggins.

He's a SF, he was never a PF, he isn't going to play PF. If he keeps slimming down then he's in a tier with Embiid, dude was looking really explosive

[nabbs]

Interesting Jabari note. If you take away the first 3 Gs, in the 11 since he's hitting 30.3% 3pt and is averaging less than 1 3PM a game. His FT% for the season is also just an ok 75%.

Jabari is not such an elite shooting prospect by the numbers IMO

Bradley Beal, in his only season at Florida, shot 33.9% from 3. While that isn't horrible, considering that he was advertised as the next Ray Allen in terms of shooting, that's pretty underwhelming. I don't know what it is but I guess sometimes you need a change of scenery. Similarly, I think jabari will put up better shooting percentages. I'd also like to add that we haven't seen him play at the weight he is currently at. He seems to have trimmed down quite a bit from the workout video that came out recently. Even losing 5 lbs can help a player's explosiveness.

[Jajwanda]

I think you also have to look at how did a player perform against NBA talent while in college. How did Parker for example perform when he faced a talented, athletic wing defender. Was Smart able to penetrate against an NBA level draft talent. Why did Wiggins fair so poorly against Marcus Smart? Stuff like that isn't mentioned much but it's definitely cause for concern if a guy can't beat top talent and his numbers rested on beating mediocre defenders.

I'm not sure on Jabari.

[Knighthonor]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Yes and no.

It's certainly the case that most of what we heard about Melo at Syracuse was good, because why wouldn't we? Basically any prospect who reaches the draft expected to be a lock for Top 5 mostly has great things said about him, and the vast majority of those guys aren't supposed to be perineal all-stars.

That said:

1. People forget that the super-hype around Melo built for quickly with that tournament run. If you look at his accolades and number through the year, they are really pretty modest compared to next level one-and-done guys we've seen more recently.

2. People did say he was too ball dominant at times. It was a matter-of-fact thing. It's typically been seen as something of a given among volume scorers.

We see it as a bigger deal now with Melo first and foremost for the same reason that volume scoring isn't idealized by NBA teams like it used to be. But of course there's also the matter that since Melo's always been (unfairly) compared with LeBron, it's just an obvious difference between them.

Melo never had the opetunity as Lebron.

THats what people seem to be missing in this argument.

Put Melo on a team with legit superstars like a pre-decline Wade and Bosh and Allen, he may have won something as well.

Melo need some super friends/justice league members.

But nobody around here seem to realize this.

[Knighthonor]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQt5bWcg7E[/youtube]

So whats this? this the same guy?

[Doctor MJ]

Melo never had the opetunity as Lebron.

THats what people seem to be missing in this argument.

Put Melo on a team with legit superstars like a pre-decline Wade and Bosh and Allen, he may have won something as well.

Melo need some super friends/justice league members.

But nobody around here seem to realize this.

We know about the vast difference between Melo and LeBron because of their time on their original teams, during which Melo had a vastly more capable supporting cast than LeBron and yet LeBron produced far better results in every possible way.

If you want to say that Melo might be able to win a title with the right players I get that, but if you think these are two roughly equal players in any way, shape, or form, you could not be more wrong.

[Dr Positivity]

Interesting Jabari note. If you take away the first 3 Gs, in the 11 since he's hitting 30.3% 3pt and is averaging less than 1 3PM a game. His FT% for the season is also just an ok 75%.

Jabari is not such an elite shooting prospect by the numbers IMO

Bradley Beal, in his only season at Florida, shot 33.9% from 3. While that isn't horrible, considering that he was advertised as the next Ray Allen in terms of shooting, that's pretty underwhelming. I don't know what it is but I guess sometimes you need a change of scenery. Similarly, I think jabari will put up better shooting percentages. I'd also like to add that we haven't seen him play at the weight he is currently at. He seems to have trimmed down quite a bit from the workout video that came out recently. Even losing 5 lbs can help a player's explosiveness.

Bradley Beal is a unique case because of pros and cons of his shooting game going into the draft

Con:

- Just 33.9% from 3pt
- 76.9% from FT, low for a supposed savant shooting prospect

Pro:

- High volume of 3s attempted (5 3PA)
- Was regarded in high school as one of the best shooting prospects in years
- Especially beautiful jumpshot form
- Started to shoot at an elite level at the end of the season (43% his last 6 Gs)

I would argue on paper Beal was still an overrated shooting prospect because of the 3P% and FT% and it's conceivable WAS got lucky. There are prospects who can have Beal's 3pt/FT season in college and turn into great shooters in the NBA, it's just a guy with those peripherals was not as big a shooting guarantee as people thought going into the draft, for every Beal drafted for his shooting with a 70s FT who pans out, there's a Xavier Henry who's 40%+ 3pt was overrated in college due to SSS and FT%, who goes the other way.

In Jabari's case I would call his shooting resume worse than Beal's. He didn't have quite the HS buzz about his shooting or the form, didn't attempt as many 3s and didn't have the late season surge. I would still say he has a chance to be one of the most skilled PFs in the league, but to me for him to the be star he's billed up as with IMO physical limitations at PF, he needs to be Dirk as a shooter/scorer

[KillMonger]

Don't know if this vid has been posted but here is a breakdown of Jabari's game

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muezq74LoS8[/youtube]