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What is Rudy Gay Going to Do?

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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#81 » by ICMTM » Mon Jun 9, 2014 9:39 pm

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ICMTM wrote:Talking about win percentages < .500 makes me think we should blow the whole thing up!! Rudy is playing for a contract, and so his improved play may very well reflect that. I wouldn't say that he's the reason we're anything though. I also think you can look at a stretch of time and say "when this parameter happened we got this result."

I think the schedule actually points to wins a losses a bit better than metrics.


I got this from a comment made by section214, a well-respected poster on StR.

14-14 record against teams with an aggregate average record of 42-40. Wins against teams averaging 39-43, losses against teams averaging 45-37. Wins against 50+ win teams: Houston (twice), Miami, Portland. Losses against sub-35 win teams: New Orleans, Cleveland, Detroit.


http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/5/15 ... w-rudy-gay

It's not fantastic, but still respectful considering he came on in the middle of the season. With a full training camp and all of the comes with it, it's not inconceivable that we're already an 8th seed team, and that's with zero changes to the roster.


In sports like basketball and baseball you play so many games that if you take out a 30 game stretch for any team you can make a case of either competence or brilliance. injuries, back to backs (of the opposing team), and home/road matter. That's why I said I would be willing to be the schedule is a better indicator especially if we had a home stand which featured a string of Eastern Conference teams. I believe that happened around the all star break? I'm too lazy to look.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#82 » by pillwenney » Mon Jun 9, 2014 10:30 pm

This team dealt with injuries pretty poorly this year, and it's because they relied so heavily on Demarcus/Rudy/Isaiah. When one of them went out, things went south quickly.

As those injuries proved, the problem wasn't really them. It was starting SG and PF spots and the bench. Those spots just killed us this year, usually on both ends. That's why I think adding solid guys at those spots could make a big difference. If we were able to pull off the situation we discussed where we acquire Gibson and Afflalo, I think that would make such a huge difference and immediately put us in playoff contention.

But I also think an idea is to hope that we can really develop Ben a lot. He's going to need to improve a lot though, because he was a big negative that really killed us last year.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#83 » by SacKingZZZ » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:06 am

When you don't have a system you're toast when you can't get the most talent on the floor that you possibly can. Even with the guys now, if they have a cohesive system (less pick and roll!) they should be better, but yeah, then you have to find the right players to stick in between them.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#84 » by nolimit0820 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:07 am

I think the argument of a guy playing for a contract is overused tbh. I know there are plenty of examples of players doing well in their contract year but that's generally overused. Every player plays for a contract. If anything one can say it reflects that he performs when the stakes are high! Lol


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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#85 » by ICMTM » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:09 pm

nolimit0820 wrote:I think the argument of a guy playing for a contract is overused tbh. I know there are plenty of examples of players doing well in their contract year but that's generally overused. Every player plays for a contract. If anything one can say it reflects that he performs when the stakes are high! Lol


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I don't! It's no different than in real life. If you're going to a job interview you treat it differently than going to work everyday. If you think you may be up for a raise or promotion you start dressing better. You put in a little more effort. You become a team player. You become likable.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#86 » by PetrieUnderstudy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:15 am

Was watching post game after watching the Spurs put on one of if not the best displays of basketball I've ever witnessed and Brian May was talking about the Rudy Gay situation. He said from seeing Rudy arrive on Tuesday that his gut feeling is he is opting out and is gone. Just one guys opinion but if that's true I don't want guys here that don't want to be here. With that, Isaiah appears he wants to be here and based on what the Spurs showed, egos need to be checked at the door for the good of the team.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#87 » by Kings2013 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:18 am

PetrieUnderstudy wrote:Was watching post game after watching the Spurs put on one of if not the best displays of basketball I've ever witnessed and Brian May was talking about the Rudy Gay situation. He said from seeing Rudy arrive on Tuesday that his gut feeling is he is opting out and is gone. Just one guys opinion but if that's true I don't want guys here that don't want to be here. With that, Isaiah appears he wants to be here and based on what the Spurs showed, egos need to be checked at the door for the good of the team.



There was just an article that said the Kings felt good about the situation. If this is the case I wonder why Rudy would show up to discuss the contract at all? Brian May surmised this opinion by how Rudy arrived?
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#88 » by PetrieUnderstudy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:20 pm

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PetrieUnderstudy wrote:Was watching post game after watching the Spurs put on one of if not the best displays of basketball I've ever witnessed and Brian May was talking about the Rudy Gay situation. He said from seeing Rudy arrive on Tuesday that his gut feeling is he is opting out and is gone. Just one guys opinion but if that's true I don't want guys here that don't want to be here. With that, Isaiah appears he wants to be here and based on what the Spurs showed, egos need to be checked at the door for the good of the team.



There was just an article that said the Kings felt good about the situation. If this is the case I wonder why Rudy would show up to discuss the contract at all? Brian May surmised this opinion by how Rudy arrived?


The way I understood Brian May is that his hunch is Rudy is leaving because of his demeanor upon arrival. He has been around Rudy during the season before and after games, practices, and other miscellaneous events. I'd assume Brian felt Rudy was distant. I'd compare it to a cheating husband's demeanor when around his no longer or less-desirable wife. He has his mistress (other options, teams) on his mind but shows some cordialness to the wife (Kings) because she is the mother of his children. Bad analogy? LOL. If Brian's gut is right and Rudy is gone, Rudy is either "doing the right thing" showing good character by meeting with the Kings at their request or doing it for his benefit because he could use the Kings in his negotiation process (Iguodala). I hope the latter isn't the case. If he wants to be here I want him here. If not let's move on. The Kings encouragement from the meeting could either be legitimate or just a case of seeing the scenario through "rose-colored glasses". We'll all find out within 2 weeks if not hopefully sooner.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#89 » by City of Trees » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:22 am

It's good to see Cousins publicly voicing his desire for Rudy to stay.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/19/649811 ... witter.com

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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#90 » by blind prophet » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:10 pm

City of Trees wrote:It's good to see Cousins publicly voicing his desire for Rudy to stay.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/19/649811 ... witter.com

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We get disrespected as a city around the league, especially after the Magoof regime. Have the new arena coming and never gave up hope. Cuz has had so many people doubt him. Both Sacramento and Cuz have a lot to prove, and you can feel it. Things are going to change around here, and our leader on the court knows, going through the same things as a person.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#91 » by ICMTM » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:00 pm

I'd trade Gay for the Lakers #7 pick :)

Hopefully Gay leaves in a sign and trade.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#92 » by Kings2013 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:50 pm

ICMTM wrote:I'd trade Gay for the Lakers #7 pick :)

Hopefully Gay leaves in a sign and trade.


There most likely won't be anyone averaging 20/6/3 on efficient shooting fitting seamlessly with Cousins at 7. I guess the pro Rudy folks can go round and round with the folks who don't feel the same way, but losing him would be a step back to being worse and possibly losing Cousins IMO and what seems like the opinion of the FO given their apparent treatment of the situation
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#93 » by ICMTM » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:03 pm

Kings2013 wrote:
ICMTM wrote:I'd trade Gay for the Lakers #7 pick :)

Hopefully Gay leaves in a sign and trade.


There most likely won't be anyone averaging 20/6/3 on efficient shooting fitting seamlessly with Cousins at 7. I guess the pro Rudy folks can go round and round with the folks who don't feel the same way, but losing him would be a step back to being worse and possibly losing Cousins IMO and what seems like the opinion of the FO given their apparent treatment of the situation


My assumption is Rudy Gay is deciding to opt out. Your assumption is we have a say in the matter.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

Post#94 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:00 pm

Hopefully Rudy isn't using the same agent Bonzi did.
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Re: What is Rudy Gay Going to Do? 

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