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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#21 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:24 am

They're offense is a thing of beauty. The ball movement is something I definitely hope SVG will be implanting here after we add some shooters.
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#22 » by Minas » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:27 am

MotownMadness wrote:They're offense is a thing of beauty. The ball movement is something I definitely hope SVG will be implanting here after we add some shooters.


There is no way we ever get to their level. Tonight was amazing, best offensive basketball I've ever seen.
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#23 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:31 am

Minas wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:They're offense is a thing of beauty. The ball movement is something I definitely hope SVG will be implanting here after we add some shooters.


There is no way we ever get to their level. Tonight was amazing, best offensive basketball I've ever seen.

Probably not :lol: but I'm just saying building a humble team first culture like they have. It's not about signing the big names every year but just finding the right fits on reasonable deals. Look at the way they get guys like Mills, Bellinelli, Green and Diaw to play.
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#24 » by Maker_84 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:29 am

The Magic team in 08-09 was very similarly built just didnt quite have the bench or inside scoring but the outside shooting was there. hopefully SVG finds some real shooters because i only see 2 guys on this roster who can consistently hit a 3
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#25 » by Pharaoh » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:22 am

We should hope Gores, SVG & Bower can stay at the helm for so long...and keep Drummond here for his entire career.

Do that at that's the beginning

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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#26 » by The Penguin » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:18 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Minas wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:They're offense is a thing of beauty. The ball movement is something I definitely hope SVG will be implanting here after we add some shooters.


There is no way we ever get to their level. Tonight was amazing, best offensive basketball I've ever seen.

Probably not :lol: but I'm just saying building a humble team first culture like they have. It's not about signing the big names every year but just finding the right fits on reasonable deals. Look at the way they get guys like Mills, Bellinelli, Green and Diaw to play.



It's a lot easier to fit role players in every offseason when you have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and now Leonard
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#27 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:55 pm

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Baller2014 wrote:SVG is a good coach, but he didn't run the same system as the Spurs. He ran a system that basically surrounded Dwight with a tonne of shooters, it was nowhere near as crisp and complex as the Spurs motion offense.


It's not the same system & I don't think anyone puts SVG up with Pop but:

It's not easy to put Rhyno & Redick & Lewis & Nelson around Dwight and make them dominant.

According to most Redick & Rhyno are poor defenders & Lewis & Nelson weren't much better...yet they won big!

It's not a simple case of jacking 3s!



Building a system for the personel (Players) that you have. Shard Lewis was a great defensive player in his prime coupled with Dwight which allowed Lewis to play stretch PF. Ryno, Reddick, Hedo and Meer were all below average defenders. But, what SVG did was create a team defensive system which would funnel opponents into traps where they would have less options. Thus, the Magic were a top defensive unit as a team in the NBA.

On offense, Stan utilized a different style than the Spurs which incorporated up to 4 wings that had 3 point range while Hedo Turkoglu was one of the primary ball handlers so Meer could also float on the wing since Hedo had the height advantage to find cutters or Dwight in the post.
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#28 » by wallace72 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:28 pm

Piston Prince wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
Minas wrote:
There is no way we ever get to their level. Tonight was amazing, best offensive basketball I've ever seen.

Probably not :lol: but I'm just saying building a humble team first culture like they have. It's not about signing the big names every year but just finding the right fits on reasonable deals. Look at the way they get guys like Mills, Bellinelli, Green and Diaw to play.



It's a lot easier to fit role players in every offseason when you have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and now Leonard


Huuuge work by SA front office, we should take example......
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#29 » by Pharaoh » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:12 am

Did the Spurs "find" those role players or develop them?

Other than Leonard I can't recall which Spurs role players were drafted by them

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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#30 » by hoophabit » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:11 pm

wallace72 wrote:
Piston Prince wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Probably not :lol: but I'm just saying building a humble team first culture like they have. It's not about signing the big names every year but just finding the right fits on reasonable deals. Look at the way they get guys like Mills, Bellinelli, Green and Diaw to play.



It's a lot easier to fit role players in every offseason when you have Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and now Leonard


Huuuge work by SA front office, we should take example......


:lol: Well, this thread is sufficiently groveling that we might avoid the SA trolls, but since someone mentioned Kawhi earlier maybe not. I'm going to keep the attitude that SVG is a quality coach and POBO (example taken) and the hope that the Pistons will again join the ranks of the quality teams. No disrespect to SA, which I admire greatly, but all this fawning on the Piston board makes me a little uncomfortable. :wink:
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#31 » by HotelVitale » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:21 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Shard Lewis was a great defensive player in his prime coupled with Dwight which allowed Lewis to play stretch PF. Ryno, Reddick, Hedo and Meer were all below average defenders.


I don't remember Rashard Lewis ever being known as a good defender. I know his numbers looked better in ORL than SEA (where they were terrible) but I would put big money on him never being seen as a 'great' defender.

This bolsters your point even more though!
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#32 » by epheisey » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:52 am

Watching Game 4 was about the only time in the past several years that I've enjoyed watching a whole game of NBA basketball. The league just hasn't excited me much lately. But watching that masterpiece, that was incredible. Every time they went down the court, it was exciting to watch.

Does the fact that there are mostly foreign players on that roster, play a part in the team first play? Instead of wanting to be a flashy, media whore, it seems like most foreign players are more content to take on a smaller role if it means they'll win. Or is this more of the Spurs organization being able to convince players to buy in to team ball, and they just so happen to also scout foreign players very well?
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#33 » by Pharaoh » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:46 am

Starts with Tim Duncan & Pop

Great leadership & a great trust

If you're superstar/franchise player is willing to sacrifice his ego for the betterment of the team AND he sets the standard in the locker room AND during practice...

Everyone falls in line or else

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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#34 » by Uncle Mxy » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:48 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:I think Pop is the GOAT coach, maybe only Riley could stand in front of him. Jackson was great, but he always won with the best player in the NBA on his roster.

If Chuck Daly (who never won COY) had Phil jackson's personnel, would he have as many rings?
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#35 » by theBigLip » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:02 am

Spurs are impressive and happy to see them win instead of the Heat.

It really shows that building a team doesn't mean tearing it down completely every few years, and swapping out coaches like they are furniture. Make good quality hires in the front office and coaching staff, and sign quality players that are willing to do what is asked. Keep working it. Very impressive indeed.

SVG has 5 years and control of the front office. I think that is a good start by Gores to do things the right way going forward. I'm excited for next season already.
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#36 » by hoophabit » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:18 pm

theBigLip wrote:Spurs are impressive and happy to see them win instead of the Heat.

It really shows that building a team doesn't mean tearing it down completely every few years, and swapping out coaches like they are furniture. Make good quality hires in the front office and coaching staff, and sign quality players that are willing to do what is asked. Keep working it. Very impressive indeed.

SVG has 5 years and control of the front office. I think that is a good start by Gores to do things the right way going forward. I'm excited for next season already.


I gave this an and1 as I can't argue with a thing. I'd just like to reinforce how important I think it is that the coach/POBO (president of basketball operations) be supported and trusted by the ownership. The coach/POBO is a model adopted from the Spurs and with the right person is a smart streamlining of process. It's the best hope of restoring professional discipline. SVG is as good a roll of the dice as was available. Maybe he can sort out the knuckleheads. Go Pistons! :lol:
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Re: San Antonio Spurs Offense 

Post#37 » by Maker_84 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:04 pm

Spurs were absolutely amazing, had a feeling they would crush Miami and they did. As for the Pistons i wouldn't mind them having another mini tank year, the east is terrible and yet the Pistons were still god awful and nowhere close to teams in the West. SVG is a very good coach and yet he can't fix this team right away, rather would keep loading on talent and not make the playoffs until i know we have the players to do something

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