Sale Confirmed: The Michael Jordan Thread

[HornetJail]

i would rather not gut the team for Love or Melo

I would want Melo added to the existing core. I wouldn't trade for Love at all. If he wants to be here, let him sign in free agency.

[BlackOutBuzz]

http://beta.sportingnews.com/article/45 ... rumors.htm

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[mrknowitall215]

The Twitter-verse is in a uproar over Michael Jordan's latest comments about upgrading the roster this offseason. It appears that Jordan has written a big check with his mouth that they will be in pursuit of something bigger than just draft picks with potential. I think MKG, Zeller, Biyombo, and Henderson will be on the trade block in some type of package that could land them a 'superstar'. Although this scenario may not come to fruition pending what the opposing team that withhold the rights of the 'superstar' want in return, but I like the fact that it finally seem like they want to be aggressive and not rest their laurels on the uncertainty of draft picks panning out

[Amateur Wannabe]

If MKG goes, I'd accept no less than top talent to play at SF. MKG is a borderline elite defender, going elite as soon as he ads some more strength to his 20 yr young body. His offensive game is improving, he probably had hard time adjusting to changing his shot mechanics and new coach and style, but once he gets comfortable with all that Just don't trade him for picks and stuff, or some average SF who is good from beyond the arc. Heck, don't want to see him traded at all, unless I see "Carmelo Anthony signed for Hornets". I hope MKG is around for a long time and has a starting job. Hornets are obviously much more in need of a SG to fill in for Hendo who proved sub-par in playoffs.

[JDR720]

Can Michael Jordan Palm It?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRYvHekZJSQ[/youtube]

[HornetJail]

If MKG goes, I'd accept no less than top talent to play at SF. MKG is a borderline elite defender, going elite as soon as he ads some more strength to his 20 yr young body. His offensive game is improving, he probably had hard time adjusting to changing his shot mechanics and new coach and style, but once he gets comfortable with all that Just don't trade him for picks and stuff, or some average SF who is good from beyond the arc. Heck, don't want to see him traded at all, unless I see "Carmelo Anthony signed for Hornets". I hope MKG is around for a long time and has a starting job. Hornets are obviously much more in need of a SG to fill in for Hendo who proved sub-par in playoffs.

If I see that headline, I definitely want him to stay. Melo+MKG on the wings or even as the two forwards? That's a match made in heaven.

[EwingSweatsALot]

According to Forbes, after Jordan increased his Hornets stake he is now a billionaire. The article also has the Hornets value at between 600-625 million.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/06/12/michael-jordan-is-a-billionaire-after-increasing-stake-in-hornets/

[LamarMatic7]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fev818PQjyw[/youtube]

haha. MJ dancing to Kool Moe Dee.

[Elden Payton]

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_phenomenon.html

MJ article from 1991 in hoop magazine.

Explaining MJ's marketing phenomenon

[Liver_Pooty]

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_phenomenon.html

MJ article from 1991 in hoop magazine.

Explaining MJ's marketing phenomenon

Great find, but I found this more interesting.

Arnold Palmer, the acknowledged endorsement pioneer, figures to have dropped well behind Jordan.

I always figured Jack Nicklaus would be way over Palmer in the endorsements. Guess I was wrong.

Good read though, Sik.

[Elden Payton]

I like the part where Falk said that Palmer was second with 11m in endorsements combined but MJ has single endorsements worth more than that!

MJ made 93m in career salary for playing, including the 66m he made in his last 2 seasons.

[EwingSweatsALot]

I didn't know where else to put this, but according to the memo released on NBA teams revenue, the Bobcats lost $8 million this past year. 8 other teams lost money, of course the big news is the Nets losing 140 mil or whatever the number is.

[LamarMatic7]

I didn't know where else to put this, but according to the memo released on NBA teams revenue, the Bobcats lost $8 million this past year. 8 other teams lost money, of course the big news is the Nets losing 140 mil or whatever the number is.

Where did you read this? Couldn't we have made up that money through the league's revenue sharing program? We received 20 million thanks to it, the most in the league. Or is this already taken in the equation of our final revenue the figures of which you mentioned?

Edit: I finally got to Zach Lowe's latest column and found out about the answer myself:

The Hornets and Pistons would be dead without revenue sharing, and they’re expected to end up in the red even with it. Charlotte is projected to lose nearly $34 million in basketball operations, and its monster estimated $22 million revenue-sharing check can’t make up for that.

[therebirth]

This figure is misleading. First they don't count the $3m luxury tax received from other owners and it only takes into account basketball operations. Other revenue such as concerts in the arena etc are not considered.

[EwingSweatsALot]

This figure is misleading. First they don't count the $3m luxury tax received from other owners and it only takes into account basketball operations. Other revenue such as concerts in the arena etc are not considered.

If I remember correctly it does count the $3 million, but not the other forms of revenue. I heard it on the BS Report while I was working so I could be mistaken, but I thought it already included that.

[EwingSweatsALot]

I didn't know where else to put this, but according to the memo released on NBA teams revenue, the Bobcats lost $8 million this past year. 8 other teams lost money, of course the big news is the Nets losing 140 mil or whatever the number is.

Where did you read this? Couldn't we have made up that money through the league's revenue sharing program? We received 20 million thanks to it, the most in the league. Or is this already taken in the equation of our final revenue the figures of which you mentioned?

Edit: I finally got to Zach Lowe's latest column and found out about the answer myself:

The Hornets and Pistons would be dead without revenue sharing, and they’re expected to end up in the red even with it. Charlotte is projected to lose nearly $34 million in basketball operations, and its monster estimated $22 million revenue-sharing check can’t make up for that.

It really come down to the fact out tv deal is awful. The fact not every household in the Carolina's can watch a Hornets basketball game is completely awful. When is the tv deal up? Hopefully soon and it can coincide with some playoff years and the Hornets being back.

Haven't read the article, but heard it on the BS Report. Somehow OKC made $28 mil or so. Neither Simmons or Lowe understood how they made that much money in one of the smallest markets in the NBA

[LamarMatic7]

Haven't read the article, but heard it on the BS Report. Somehow OKC made $28 mil or so. Neither Simmons or Lowe understood how they made that much money in one of the smallest markets in the NBA

I guess that the moral of the story is that all in all nowadays (thanks to all the media advantages we have) your market doesn't matter that much if you build a great team. A superstar can get his shine and the deals he wants in any NBA city and you can pack your house and benefit from him no matter in which city is your NBA team based.

[Liver_Pooty]

Didn't know where to put this, but apparently even with a ton of revenue sharing we still lost nearly 12 million dollars. I was rather surprised. They need to get their tv situation fixed asap.

The then-Bobcats had racked up nearly $34 million in the red and the $22 million benefit of a boosted revenue sharing plan couldn't bring them close enough to sniff an overall profit in basketball operations. Overall, they had a $12 million loss. Forbes, however, estimated they had were $7 million plus in operating income, their first time out of the red in Forbes' calculations since 2008. It should be noted Forbes says their numbers are based off 2012-13 finances, for some reason. I'm not sure where Forbes gets their information from, but perhaps that's from the arena side income.

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/6/30/5858 ... llion-loss

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Didn't know where to put this, but apparently even with a ton of revenue sharing we still lost nearly 12 million dollars. I was rather surprised. They need to get their tv situation fixed asap.

The then-Bobcats had racked up nearly $34 million in the red and the $22 million benefit of a boosted revenue sharing plan couldn't bring them close enough to sniff an overall profit in basketball operations. Overall, they had a $12 million loss. Forbes, however, estimated they had were $7 million plus in operating income, their first time out of the red in Forbes' calculations since 2008. It should be noted Forbes says their numbers are based off 2012-13 finances, for some reason. I'm not sure where Forbes gets their information from, but perhaps that's from the arena side income.

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/6/30/5858 ... llion-loss

I think forbes is purely speculation based on publicly available data.

anyway, as far as hornets in general, do you guys have fans based on the fact that Jordan owns the team?

[JDR720]

We definitely have fans just because of Jordan. Other teams have fans because of the owner also, Mavs fan because of Cuban, Nets fan because of Prokhorov etc.