Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[Mink Coat Mason]

While some might think it odd that a workout could sway our opinions on any player in the top four (save for the mysterious Exum perhaps), Hammond is different. Last season, we heard all the buzz about how Shane Larkin's workout impressed MIL.

Now, that very well could have been a smoke screen. But I think I remember Joe Alexander and Larry Sanders cementing their draft status with us in a similar fashion. Also, Terrence Ross seemed to be our guy if he'd fallen to us after working out. It seems that Hammond/McKinney put a lot of stock into these things. While these elite prospects don't seem like they will be competing in any kind of 3-on-3's, I'd have to think that Wiggins will have the advantage. That athleticism and explosiveness will shine even brighter close up. Of course, if Embiid is not promised the first pick from Cleveland and he works out for us...that could change things as well. Going to be a fun 15 days.

[eagle13]

OF course no one knows but Cleveland's (apparent) indecision keeps things up in the air. That they might trade #1 means its wide open. It seems likely that either cavs take Embidd or someone who wants him will trade for #1. But not necessarily - Philly is thinking (purportedly) of trading up to #1 to guarantee Wiggins. As long as There is any chance Embiid drops to @2 I keep that pick. So my my strategy is to tell Philly and Orlando in advance that if Embidd is taken #1 I will trade #2 to the highest bidder of the two for #3 or #4. I will be happy with whoever falls to #4 - probably Exum or possibly Parker,

[sherm]

For me, i am unsure of Embid. And definitely leary of Exum. Im buyin wiggins stock (I still feel he will have star appeal). I prefer Smart over Exum. And Im comfortable with Parker except the fact that he is a 3 NOT a 4 unless he can become a Karl Malone

[ReasonablySober]

Ford on Embiid:

Outlook

Is Gilbert ready to be patient? Especially when Parker and Wiggins are both on the board? Parker, especially, looks ready to come in and contribute 18 to 20 points a night as a rookie. While Wiggins is more raw offensively than Parker, he's already looking like an elite defender who could come in and make an impact on that end from day one.

Just because Griffin wants to take Embiid No. 1 doesn't mean he'll get his wish. Two years ago, Gilbert and head coach Byron Scott overruled Grant on draft night and selected Dion Waiters over Grant's choice, Harrison Barnes. Last year, it was Mike Brown who helped push Bennett to the top of the Cavs' draft board.

"It's a complicated dynamic," one Cavs source said over the weekend. "The back issue -- we will get comfortable with it one way or the other. We are more risk averse than some teams. I think you have to be with the No. 1 pick. You have to make sure you are getting a guy who will be a franchise player. But the other issue is fit. Most teams that draft No. 1 are rebuilding and can afford to wait on upside. I'm not sure that's the case with us. We need help now. I think we can get more help in free agency or trades. I think Embiid could help a little. But if there's another player who helps even more and still has great upside, do you risk it? We're still working all of that out."

Embiid's workout and physical on Wednesday should help clarify that decision-making process even more.

[Siefer]

Ford on Embiid:

Outlook

Is Gilbert ready to be patient? Especially when Parker and Wiggins are both on the board? Parker, especially, looks ready to come in and contribute 18 to 20 points a night as a rookie. While Wiggins is more raw offensively than Parker, he's already looking like an elite defender who could come in and make an impact on that end from day one.

Just because Griffin wants to take Embiid No. 1 doesn't mean he'll get his wish. Two years ago, Gilbert and head coach Byron Scott overruled Grant on draft night and selected Dion Waiters over Grant's choice, Harrison Barnes. Last year, it was Mike Brown who helped push Bennett to the top of the Cavs' draft board.

"It's a complicated dynamic," one Cavs source said over the weekend. "The back issue -- we will get comfortable with it one way or the other. We are more risk averse than some teams. I think you have to be with the No. 1 pick. You have to make sure you are getting a guy who will be a franchise player. But the other issue is fit. Most teams that draft No. 1 are rebuilding and can afford to wait on upside. I'm not sure that's the case with us. We need help now. I think we can get more help in free agency or trades. I think Embiid could help a little. But if there's another player who helps even more and still has great upside, do you risk it? We're still working all of that out."

Embiid's workout and physical on Wednesday should help clarify that decision-making process even more.

Sweet Jesus. Please **** this up, Cleveland.

[Rockmaninoff]

Smart got to the line 8 times a game, shot 65% in the paint on the season, averaged 5 asts per game, and...."Over the final eight games, Smart averaged 19.3 points, 6.2 assists, 6.6 rebounds and 4.5 steals."

Yea he sucks.

Those are impressive stats,though I'm sure they will b overlooked by the exum lovers.
For the record I would love to see exums stats




I'm sure exum has says like that and adding to that smart is one of the best D guys in this draft.Yet cause exam has a quicker first step he's the second coming of Jordan while smart to a lot of this board stinks wow

Exum's cumulative Per 36 stats from this are:

TS: 61.7
Pts/g: 23.8
Reb/g: 5.8
Ast/g: 4.3
Stl/g: 1.9
TO/g: 2.7
PF/g: 2.0

If you delve deeper, he shot 56.1% on 2 point attempts, and got to the line 7.9 times per game, per 36 minutes. His blocks + steals > personal fouls, which is always a good sign.

I think Smart is really underrated and I like him a lot, but I like Exum more. He's so Kobe Bryant, right down to the flat jump shot.

[Badgerlander]

Ford on Embiid:

Outlook

Is Gilbert ready to be patient? Especially when Parker and Wiggins are both on the board? Parker, especially, looks ready to come in and contribute 18 to 20 points a night as a rookie. While Wiggins is more raw offensively than Parker, he's already looking like an elite defender who could come in and make an impact on that end from day one.

Just because Griffin wants to take Embiid No. 1 doesn't mean he'll get his wish. Two years ago, Gilbert and head coach Byron Scott overruled Grant on draft night and selected Dion Waiters over Grant's choice, Harrison Barnes. Last year, it was Mike Brown who helped push Bennett to the top of the Cavs' draft board.

"It's a complicated dynamic," one Cavs source said over the weekend. "The back issue -- we will get comfortable with it one way or the other. We are more risk averse than some teams. I think you have to be with the No. 1 pick. You have to make sure you are getting a guy who will be a franchise player. But the other issue is fit. Most teams that draft No. 1 are rebuilding and can afford to wait on upside. I'm not sure that's the case with us. We need help now. I think we can get more help in free agency or trades. I think Embiid could help a little. But if there's another player who helps even more and still has great upside, do you risk it? We're still working all of that out."

Embiid's workout and physical on Wednesday should help clarify that decision-making process even more.

Sweet Jesus. Please **** this up, Cleveland.

They are so taking Wiggins

[yoshii8]

I still think Wiggins and Parker will be the 1 and 2 pick in some order. I believe Embiid might slip to #4.

[europa]

Ford on Embiid:

Sweet Jesus. Please **** this up, Cleveland.

They are so taking Wiggins

Sure hope not.

[ReasonablySober]

I think I've somehow convinced myself that Cleveland is going to **** this up and take Wiggins because they're impatient, stupid and misguided.

[pilprin]

This place is gonna be a circus come draft night when CLE passes on Embiid, and we do too.

The only way that happens is if there are concerns about his back. If that is indeed the case...I will be ok passing on him.

I want Parker.

[Newz]

I think I've somehow convinced myself that Cleveland is going to **** this up and take Wiggins because they're impatient, stupid and misguided.

I know everyone has a different opinion and a majority of those opinions are valid when it comes to the top 3-4 guys. But having watched Embiid I still just can't imagine how he isn't 1 on everyone's draft board. He legitimately has the talent to be a David Robinson level player... and in today's NBA, that would be even more valuable than a guy like LeBron, IMO.

[MetroDrugUnit]

Will the 6ers please go somewhere with this whole landing Wiggins ****. The Cav's are either going to go Embiid or Wiggins and I really think it will come down to the Zero Hour.

[EastSideBucksFan]

I read that Cavs report from their source and it screams they are taking Jabari Parker.

Wiggins won't come in and average 18-20 in the first season.

Parker is expected to do that.

[driese0824]

Those are impressive stats,though I'm sure they will b overlooked by the exum lovers.
For the record I would love to see exums stats




I'm sure exum has says like that and adding to that smart is one of the best D guys in this draft.Yet cause exam has a quicker first step he's the second coming of Jordan while smart to a lot of this board stinks wow

Exum's cumulative Per 36 stats from this are:

TS: 61.7
Pts/g: 23.8
Reb/g: 5.8
Ast/g: 4.3
Stl/g: 1.9
TO/g: 2.7
PF/g: 2.0

If you delve deeper, he shot 56.1% on 2 point attempts, and got to the line 7.9 times per game, per 36 minutes. His blocks + steals > personal fouls, which is always a good sign.

I think Smart is really underrated and I like him a lot, but I like Exum more. He's so Kobe Bryant, right down to the flat jump shot.

Thank u though considering we all criticize knight for lack of pg.skills exums assists per 36 isn't all that impressive he to seems like a shoot first pg
For the hell of it what's smart stats per 36 betcha his assists are a lot higher.
So by the stats u gave me on exum what screams pg.to u n didn't knight average over 5 dimes a game which a lot of people on this board critisized

[europa]

I read that Cavs report from their source and it screams they are taking Jabari Parker.

Wiggins won't come in and average 18-20 in the first season.

Parker is expected to do that.

I would not rule out Parker going No. 1. Honestly, any one of the Top 3 could be the guy. I think you can make a strong case for all of them.

[paulpressey25]

Mary Schmitt Boyer was on with Ted the other day. MSB is not necessarily plugged in, but does an ok job of covering the Cav's. The only real takeaway I got from it is that Dan Gilbert is every bit as nuts and controlling as certain other owners we know, and that nothing the Cav's do would surprise her. She thought they may still actively try to trade the pick if a Kevin Love type deal was out there.

[theFireBlanket]

Mary Schmitt Boyer was on with Ted the other day. MSB is not necessarily plugged in, but does an ok job of covering the Cav's. The only real takeaway I got from it is that Dan Gilbert is every bit as nuts and controlling as certain other owners we know, and that nothing the Cav's do would surprise her. She thought they may still actively try to trade the pick if a Kevin Love type deal was out there.

I thought someone would've posted what she had to say yesterday. Figured maybe it hadn't been much of anything, so whoever listened just didn't bother to share.

The letter to LeBron and the way they've botched rebuilding after his departure, with all of the job changes has indicated just as much. No wonder Kyrie wants out (I don't condone being a prima dona about it).

[europa]

Cavs trade the pick for Love and the T'Wolves take Exum No. 1 cuz Kahn loves him some PGs.

That'd be awesome.

[theFireBlanket]

Cavs trade the pick for Love and the T'Wolves take Exum No. 1 cuz Kahn loves him some PGs.

That'd be awesome.

He's out of that job. Tried being apart of the group that bought the Bucks (not Lasry/Edens but a separate group).