Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[Zeezprah]

I'm not so sure I'd say he has a limited offensive game. I think he's asked to play a role, and he's shown flashes of being able to create and slash. I think there's more there, and his defense is invaluable: he's an EV-suppressing machine.

i think he is what we're seeing. sure, maybe he puts up a few more points or something somewhere else, but ultimately he's like a 3rd or 4th guy on a championship team who's the defensive stopper "guy" who gets hustle points and scores occasionally here and there when needed. good player, but nothing earth shattering or anything. he got blessed with a very nice situation for him. perfect fit.

and i was a big kawhi fan when he came out (and still am). thought he was a top 5 player in that class, so no hate from my end.

There's zero percent chance that SA would even consider trading Leonard for the Bux pick. None. At 22 years old, he's one of the most valuable pieces in the NBA - in the same category as George.

this is ridiculous, but unfortunately others think this

why he's overrated

he got very fortunate with his current situation.

saying stuff like "0 percent chance he's worth the #2 pick in a loaded draft", "i'd throw the max at him and not even blink", and "same category as george" all make me cringe.

this discussion would not be had if he was on many other teams.

ridiculous to act like he's any greater than someone like a nicolas batum, who i also like a lot as a player, but come on.

[Willie Colon]

I like Kawhi, but last night was a bit out of the ordinary. He had a ridiculously hot start to the game. We can't forget that he was awful the first two games. It'd be different if he keeps it up, but it could also be a fluke, like Indiana vs Heat Game 1. We'll see; I'm rooting for him.

[Wise1]

Parker will be a bigger impact player than both Leonard and George. Just you wait.

[bigkurty]

Kawhi's advanced stats are ridiculous though. On a per minutes bases, he is better than George every year of his career.
This is a good list to show the recent best young players
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws
Kawhi shows up all 3 years of his career. George shows up once for this past year.

[bigkurty]

And Batum is nowhere near Kawhi's level. He is good for sure but Kawhi is better especially when you add in age.

[cinematographer]

Kawhi's advanced stats are ridiculous though. On a per minutes bases, he is better than George every year of his career.
This is a good list to show the recent best young players
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws
Kawhi shows up all 3 years of his career. George shows up once for this past year.

[RiotPunch]

Parker will be a bigger impact player than both Leonard and George. Just you wait.

I hope to God you're right, man.

[Zeezprah]

Kawhi's advanced stats are ridiculous though. On a per minutes bases, he is better than George every year of his career.
This is a good list to show the recent best young players
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws
Kawhi shows up all 3 years of his career. George shows up once for this past year.

man do i hate per minute projection stats sometimes.

i could be thrown into an nba game, hit a lucky 3 in 1 min and be benched right away and i'd be averaging 108 points per 36.

and as far as that list goes, ryan anderson is on there twice, is he > paul george?

[RiotPunch]

Ryno > MJ.

[Wise1]

Parker will be a bigger impact player than both Leonard and George. Just you wait.

I hope to God you're right, man.

I trust inner city Chicago kids with skills. I've seen too many of them translate to the pros. If you dominate in Chicago, you're prospects are pretty good imo. There are athletes on playgrounds in innercity America everywhere. From my experience playing with them, they are nothing to write home about unless they have skills to go with it. Skills, skills, skills is what it has always been about in this game. The best athletes in the world couldn't stop pedestrian athletes like Mark Aguirre, Adrien Dantley, Jeff Malone, Magic Johnson, George Gervin, KiKi Vandeweigh, Michael Redd, ect.

When I watch Parker, it amazes me at how EASY he makes things look at the basket. To be so young and to have that gift is pretty special. He'll eventually be a 25ppg guy that will live at the line.

[trwi7]

Parker will be a bigger impact player than both Leonard and George. Just you wait.

I hope to God you're right, man.

I trust inner city Chicago kids with skills.

[El Pooch Grande]

Chad Ford ........

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/uk ... /10336835/

On Randle's NBA draft stock right now: "I think his (draft) range is 6-10. His range is probably even a little narrower than that: six to eight. I think he'll get a long look in Boston. I think he'll get a long look in L.A. I think he'll get a really long look in Sacramento. If he slides to Charlotte, even though they drafted Cody Zeller, they're very different players and I think they would take a look. And I can't imagine Philly, that really doesn't even have a power forward, letting him get past them.

"I've heard (Randle) is not particularly high on the board in Utah. They'll probably go, if (Dante) Exum is there, with Exum or Noah Vonleh or Aaron Gordon. And some of this is just the way that the draft (lottery) worked out. Like, the Bucks were very high on Randle. They were one of the teams that liked him the most. But when they moved to the No. 2 pick, he's not going to be taken No. 2. But that's an example of a team that probably has him ranked as their top power forward in the draft. But there's other teams that have Vonleh there and, frankly, I think there's a couple teams – Boston may be one – that have Aaron Gordon ranked as the top power forward.

"I think they're all very close and I don't think it's that Randle's stock has slid as much as there's just three very good power forward prospects in this draft – maybe four with (Dario) Saric (from Croatia) – and they're all incredibly different. They all just have different games, and because they have different games, teams are looking at team needs and who fits the particular style of play and the other personnel they have on the floor."

Combine this with the BuckPack report about a 5-9 player who may have trouble fitting in with Parker and I think it screams Randle to me, and to be honest, I'm totally fine with this. We could make it work with him, Parker, Giannis, etc. Parker and Randle were the consensus #2 and #3 prospects heading into the fall least we forget. You may not like it, but that was the talk in 2013.

Trade Knight and or Sanders/Henson for #8 and say Ben McLemore, draft Randle and here's what ya got...

Wolters or Giannis??
Giannis or McLemore
Parker
Randle
Sanders or Henson

I don't care how big of haters you might be of this combination, you'd have to be at least a little bit excited to see how it might shake out. Hammond has even publicly stated that he sees Jabari being able to play the 3, and Giannis played a lot of 2 last year. Hell, under this scenario why not just make Giannis the point and let him run the offense? After all that's what we all want isn't it...Giannis bringing it up the floor, playing the facilitator role?! Even Clyde Frazier said during a Bucks/Knicks contest last year that Giannis reminded him of certain 6'9" PG who used to play in Los Angeles? I mean we can dream right...and worst case scenario, we'll have the perfect tank for Mundiay

[blazza18]

Looks like Mr Randle may need foot surgery post draft.

University of Kentucky forward Julius Randle, considered a top 10 pick, likely needs surgery on his right foot after the NBA draft in June, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The procedure is expected to keep Randle out six to eight weeks this summer, sources said, but there's a strong expectation within front offices that he'll be cleared for the start of training camp in the fall.
In this scenario, Randle would miss rookie summer league in July.

[El Pooch Grande]

I hope to God you're right, man.

I trust inner city Chicago kids with skills.

[Aaron It Out]

I must have watched 2 hours worth of videos last night between Parker and Wiggins, and it really helped. I don't know how I ever liked Wiggins over Parker.

I think the Chad Ford video is what turned me off the most. I couldn't stop watching. No offense to Andrew but he just seems kind of..not all there? To me it seemed like he was working very hard just trying to answer Ford's questions perfectly. KInd of has that deer in the headlight look like he has no idea what's going on. On the flip side Parker comes across very naturally, his hard work shows in everything he does. Another thing that bothered me about that video, is that really how Wiggins practices? He's trying to make a case for being the #1 pick and he's basically walking through step back 3's and cross-over dunks. I realize all these guys are going up against chairs but show me something.

[Chapter29]

Parker will be a bigger impact player than both Leonard and George. Just you wait.

Wow....drinkin the Parker kool-aid with a fire hose I see. I hope you're right.

[machu46]

Like I said before, if Jabari is our guy, I hope it works out how some think it will. That he'll be a great passer, unstoppable scorer, and be better than Paul George, but I don't really see it. I think he'll eventually become a solid 3 point shooter, but as of now, he's not really a good perimeter shooter, isn't a passer, isn't a defender, and doesn't really finish well inside. I don't think he's nearly as safe a pick as people make him out to be. Same goes for Randle who a lot of people think is very safe.

[paulpressey25]

The Randle info from Woj is rather important. I had no idea the guy had a screw in his foot. He was already dropping over the past month, but this would likely cement him in the 7-10 range now, closer to 10th IMO..

If we could somehow do that deal to move up, I'd bypass the Kings and try to go for the 7th pick and Smart if that was out there.

[SkilesTheLimit]

The Randle info from Woj is rather important. I had no idea the guy had a screw in his foot. He was already dropping over the past month, but this would likely cement him in the 7-10 range now, closer to 10th IMO..

If we could somehow do that deal to move up, I'd bypass the Kings and try to go for the 7th pick and Smart if that was out there.

Which former pro, past/present, do you think of when you imagine Smart's ceiling?

I picture Baron Davis with defense.

Thoughts?

[machu46]

The Randle info from Woj is rather important. I had no idea the guy had a screw in his foot. He was already dropping over the past month, but this would likely cement him in the 7-10 range now, closer to 10th IMO..

If we could somehow do that deal to move up, I'd bypass the Kings and try to go for the 7th pick and Smart if that was out there.

Which former pro, past/present, do you think of when you imagine Smart's ceiling?

I picture Baron Davis with defense.

Thoughts?

If Smart were anywhere near Baron as a ball handler and passer, sure.

I do see the similarities in terms of body shape and struggles as a shooter and finisher though. Although Baron was an excellent finisher in college, but he was awful in the NBA.