Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[HornetJail]

Tolliver/CDR seems like great fits in memphis any type of s&t for these guys ? what kind of offers do you guys think these two get ?

You'd probably be able to sign either outright. Both of them do love it here though. You guys could really use Tolliver though. Honestly I'd give either one of them 2 years, 6M total but they probably don't even command that much.

I'm worried that San Antonio will snatch one of them up and turn one of them into an all-star or some **** though.

[Eoghan]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

[ARHornet]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

Interesting idea in theory, but I don't know that we'd really want 3 1st round rookies.

[HornetJail]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

Shouldn't we be looking to acquire more elite/very good talent, rather than a bunch of decent-to-solid role players?

It's good value, but simply not the direction I'd want to go.
Plus I doubt LaVine, Stauskas, McDermott, or Young are there at 16. We'd be stuck with three picks in the 16-24 range, picking guys like Cleanthony Early, Rodney Hood, Gary Harris, or Glenn Robinson. Good players, but we already have "good" players. We need some great ones.

Do we really want our rotation looking like this?
Biz/Al
Gibson/McBob/Zeller
MKG/mediocre rookie
Henderson/mediocre rookie
Kemba/mediocre rookie/Neal

For someone so worried about Al Jefferson putting the team on a treadmill, citing the hope of a higher pick, I'd have thought you would hate the idea of breaking down our high pick for lower ones.

[mrknowitall215]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

I thought about this scenario, but if I'm Charlotte, I'd say "no". The Bulls will be a desperate team to trade Taj Gibson or other players on their roster if they truly intend to go after Carmelo Anthony via free agency this offseason. The only way I'd OK this deal is if I were 100% positive that Cho would take Gary Harris at #9

[TheKingofSting2]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

I thought about this scenario, but if I'm Charlotte, I'd say "no". The Bulls will be a desperate team to trade Taj Gibson or other players on their roster if they truly intend to go after Carmelo Anthony via free agency this offseason. The only way I'd OK this deal is if I were 100% positive that Cho would take Gary Harris at #9

You'd rather have Doug M than that deal?

[mrknowitall215]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Charlotte could roll out with Taj at Pf and a combo of Hood/Warren/Payne/Porzingas/etc.

I thought about this scenario, but if I'm Charlotte, I'd say "no". The Bulls will be a desperate team to trade Taj Gibson or other players on their roster if they truly intend to go after Carmelo Anthony via free agency this offseason. The only way I'd OK this deal is if I were 100% positive that Cho would take Gary Harris at #9

You'd rather have Doug M than that deal?

As much as I like Taj Gibson, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say "yes"

I see Doug McDermott as a very skilled player that has a wide fielding array of offensive talent. I dislike the way Clifford uses MKG, but if there ever was a player that fit into what Clifford want on the floor --- spacing --- that could be productive right out the gate playing third fiddle to Jefferson & Kemba, it would be McDermott. McDermott's offensive repertoire will allow him to be a go-to scorer at occasions during his NBA career. Although I'm not sure if he'll ever be a All-Star caliber player, I'm all for certain that he'll be a solid 3rd option with starting minutes where he'd average around 15 points on good efficiency without needing the ball in his hands at a high usage. I think Wally Szcerbiak when I foresee McDermott's career in the NBA, and that's nothing to sneeze at while being well worth a lottery pick

However, I have a instinctive feeling that James Young and/or Zach LaVine could be All-Star caliber players in this league that are happening to be getting the raw end of the stick in evaluations after rough patched freshman campaigns, not to mention entering a draft class with a plethora of prospects that have been hyped/touted as lottery talent before either were even thought of as 1st round material. If I'm a GM, I wouldn't pass on Young or LaVine late in the lottery and would consider it a steal. If I'm the Lakers at #7, I'd take one of Young or LaVine if Julius Randle doesn't fall there, and I wouldn't look back once. There's prospects that are hyped up to be top-5 talent to only become busts, and then there are prospects that fall late-to-outside of the lottery that become star players every year. It's all about whether they have the talent & mentality to become successful, and after that it's up to the franchise to put them in a position to succeed. Hopefully the Hornets see Young/LaVine like I do, and are prepared to develop them

[TheKingofSting2]

^I see Dougie McBuckets as more of a Kyle Korver and I am not sure that is worth the #9 pick, I'd rather trade back for Afflalo and the #12 with Orlando if we are hell bent on Doug M.

[mrknowitall215]

^I see Dougie McBuckets as more of a Kyle Korver and I am not sure that is worth the #9 pick, I'd rather trade back for Afflalo and the #12 with Orlando if we are hell bent on Doug M.

If you see McDermott having a similar career to Korver in the NBA, then I understand your stance. If I knew McDermott would only turn out to be a Korver-esque player in the league then I'd definitely do the trade with the Bulls for Gibson's defense alongside Jefferson the next couple years

[TheKingofSting2]

^I see Dougie McBuckets as more of a Kyle Korver and I am not sure that is worth the #9 pick, I'd rather trade back for Afflalo and the #12 with Orlando if we are hell bent on Doug M.

If you see McDermott having a similar career to Korver in the NBA, then I understand your stance

Maybe it is just the Adam Morrison syndrome. That and I really hope Randle drops but am sure Cho would pass on him even if so.

[LamarMatic7]

#9 + Hendo

for

Taj Gibson, #16, #19

Who says no?

Chicago.

[HornetJail]

Would you guys trade #24, Henderson, and Neal for George Hill? Hill would be a great backup combo guard for us. A little expensive, but I'd certainly rather spend $8M on Hill than $9.5M on Henderson and Neal.

[ARHornet]

Hill is making too much money for me to give up #24. I might do Henderson and Neal for him even though that means extra salary next year. But adding in #24 is giving too much.

[mrknowitall215]

Would you guys trade #24, Henderson, and Neal for George Hill? Hill would be a great backup combo guard for us. A little expensive, but I'd certainly rather spend $8M on Hill than $9.5M on Henderson and Neal.

I would lean towards no. I'd much rather spend $8 million on Greivis Vasquez who wouldn't even command that much. It's not a bad trade proposal, but I'm not that desperate to get rid of Gerald Henderson that I'd take on a player that's even more of a disappearing act like George Hill

[mrknowitall215]

I would do Gerald Henderson + #24 for Jarrett Jack + #33

This proposal save Charlotte from having to search for a quality backup PG, all the while opening up the cap space & depth spot for the Hornets to pursue Lance Stephenson aggressively via free agency

[HornetJail]

I would do Gerald Henderson + #24 for Jarrett Jack + 33

I'd do Hendo + Neal + Haywood + 24 for Jack + 33

Jack is Sessions with 3-point range.

[yosemiteben]

Biz - you saying that's a good thing or a bad thing?

I think I've neglected thinking about backup PGs, but looks like there are some nice options for FA that won't be too expensive.

[HornetJail]

Biz - you saying that's a good thing or a bad thing?

I think I've neglected thinking about backup PGs, but looks like there are some nice options for FA that won't be too expensive.

I'd want to dump Haywood and Neal to do that deal.

[LofJ]

How plausible do you guys think these two trade ideas are?

1) Gerald Henderson and the 9th pick to the Celtics for Gerald Wallace and the 6th pick (Vonleh)

And

2) Cody Zeller to the Timberwolves for the 13th pick (Hood)

Kemba/Free Agent
Hood/Taylor/Neal
MKG/Wallace
Vonleh/McRoberts
Jefferson/Biyombo

I'm not in love with the Zeller trade, but I think that's the best we could do if we were to trade him this year for a pick.

[HornetJail]

How plausible do you guys think these two trade ideas are?

1) Gerald Henderson and the 9th pick to the Celtics for Gerald Wallace and the 6th pick (Vonleh)

And

2) Cody Zeller to the Timberwolves for the 13th pick (Hood)

Kemba/Free Agent
Hood/Taylor/Neal
MKG/Wallace
Vonleh/McRoberts
Jefferson/Biyombo

I'm not in love with the Zeller trade, but I think that's the best we could do if we were to trade him this year for a pick.

I wouldn't do #1. I think we'd be happy enough with McD, Nik, or LaVine at #9. I'd do that and plenty more if Exum dropped that far though.

I would jump on any Zeller deal that got us a top 17-ish pick. Doesn't need to be Rodney Hood, I'd take that deal for James Young, Napier, Kyle Anderson, any of the McD/Nik/Lavine group that falls...