Official Trade Thread - Part XXVII

[dckingsfan]

So what would the trade be?

[thricethefun]

So what would the trade be?

I was thinking something like this. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kovdov3

[verbal8]

Look as vocal as I have been wanting to trade NENE, he's a good player, we should not make a deal that does not make us better, and any deal for Landry does not help us. even with that pick, we loose nene, I am all for getting draft picks, but we have two years left of nene, hes a solid big, and sure he needs moved to the bench but at this point moving him to the kings and taking landry only hurts us. If we really feel the need to move NENE, there are better options.

Paying $6.5 million to a 33 year old Landry is painful, but so is paying $13 million to a 32 and 33 year old Nene. Landry was awful this past season, but his career numbers aren't far off from Nene.

Plus if you can get a guy like Randle with #8 he could produce at a high level even as a rookie imo.

It is looking a little more likely that Randle could be available at 8:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ry-On-Foot

I don't think he drops dramatically, but slipping a couple spots is quite possible. I think with some of the struggles of injured rookies this year, teams may prefer to have a player who is able to come in healthy.

[penbeast0]

I threw a straight up Nene for Josh Smith on the T&T board and so far it's not getting slammed though it's not getting super love either. I think Nene is better than Smith minute for minute easily . . . but he's not playing the minutes, Smith is a better fit in a running game, and Smith is 3 years younger. What do we think of it here?

[Dat2U]

I threw a straight up Nene for Josh Smith on the T&T board and so far it's not getting slammed though it's not getting super love either. I think Nene is better than Smith minute for minute easily . . . but he's not playing the minutes, Smith is a better fit in a running game, and Smith is 3 years younger. What do we think of it here?

Ehhhh I'm not sure. Only thing that keeps me from saying an outright no is that Smith would be better at PF than SF and it's not like he'd be the 1st or 2nd option offensively. I really don't like Smith with Wittman though. I think we'd see even more long 2s in our future.

[thricethefun]

I threw a straight up Nene for Josh Smith on the T&T board and so far it's not getting slammed though it's not getting super love either. I think Nene is better than Smith minute for minute easily . . . but he's not playing the minutes, Smith is a better fit in a running game, and Smith is 3 years younger. What do we think of it here?

Meh I wouldn't want that contract even if it means getting rid of Nene's. If we take on Smith then we are left with virtually no cap flexability for the next 3 years and no a great player to show for it.

[Ruzious]

I threw a straight up Nene for Josh Smith on the T&T board and so far it's not getting slammed though it's not getting super love either. I think Nene is better than Smith minute for minute easily . . . but he's not playing the minutes, Smith is a better fit in a running game, and Smith is 3 years younger. What do we think of it here?

That's an interesting idea, pen. When Josh Smith is playing poorly - which is usually most obvious (when I watch him) at the end of games when he takes terrible percentage shots and misses all his free throws, he is one of the most frustrating players in the game. But when he doesn't force things (Good Josh), he's a unique PF who's especially good in transition at both ends. Playing with Washington might bring out more of Good Josh. At least on defense, he and Ariza would make a dynamic pair of athletic forwards. Offensively... it might or might not be a train wreck - how lucky do you feel?

[penbeast0]

If I had faith in the Wiz to bring in a true superstar, I wouldn't make this suggestions . . . but history says we won't. I think our chance of being dangerous with Smith is better than with Nene and whatever the cap room might bring one year earlier.

I would, however, limit this deal to only if we resign Gortat or a similarly talented true center. If not then we might as well just leave the caproom and accept that we aren't going anywhere. Similar considerations go for resigning Ariza . . .I'm hesitant to do it in any case and would only sign him if we have the center position filled first.

[deneem4]

Smith can be a 18/8/4 guy for us...maybe better...His style is exactly what we're missing...he's basically full sized trevor booker, and that's booker only weakness...Smith can guard most power forwards and blow past them as well...he's like a full size tweener...If we're looking at thad or green I think smith would be a better fit, no mention getting rid of nene in the process is jus icing on the cake

[LyricalRico]

If I had faith in the Wiz to bring in a true superstar, I wouldn't make this suggestions . . . but history says we won't. I think our chance of being dangerous with Smith is better than with Nene and whatever the cap room might bring one year earlier.

I would, however, limit this deal to only if we resign Gortat or a similarly talented true center. If not then we might as well just leave the caproom and accept that we aren't going anywhere. Similar considerations go for resigning Ariza . . .I'm hesitant to do it in any case and would only sign him if we have the center position filled first.

I can see that perspective, especially if we have to sign Gortat/Ariza to deals that are not 2016 friendly. In that scenario, Nene for Smith would be interesting from a Wiz perspective IMO.

But if DET wants to move Smith, they might be able to get a bit more. Maybe an expiring and a pick from a desperate team?


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[verbal8]

But if DET wants to move Smith, they might be able to get a bit more. Maybe an expiring and a pick from a desperate team?
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Smith was pretty bad last year. If any team is giving up a pick they will demand a S&T of Monroe rather than the privilege of paying $26 million to Josh Smith(assuming 1st year salaries are equal).

[dckingsfan]

But if DET wants to move Smith, they might be able to get a bit more. Maybe an expiring and a pick from a desperate team?
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Smith was pretty bad last year. If any team is giving up a pick they will demand a S&T of Monroe rather than the privilege of paying $26 million to Josh Smith(assuming 1st year salaries are equal).

The one thing about Smith is that he way underperformed his historical averages. Now, I am not saying that he would be worth his contract even at those averages. But there is a very good chance that (in the right environment) he will jump back to his usual output.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I threw a straight up Nene for Josh Smith on the T&T board and so far it's not getting slammed though it's not getting super love either. I think Nene is better than Smith minute for minute easily . . . but he's not playing the minutes, Smith is a better fit in a running game, and Smith is 3 years younger. What do we think of it here?

Make the deal.

Smith is pretty sure to bounce back. Take the younger, healthier player who is built to run.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Smith can be a 18/8/4 guy for us...maybe better...His style is exactly what we're missing...he's basically full sized trevor booker, and that's booker only weakness...Smith can guard most power forwards and blow past them as well...he's like a full size tweener...If we're looking at thad or green I think smith would be a better fit, no mention getting rid of nene in the process is jus icing on the cake

That's a nice assist total. Smith is also a very good shot blocker.

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[Hidden Eye]

Smith would be good addition but rather have Monroe if the Wiz trying to trade with Detriot. He's hard to coach and Wittman might have a hard time getting him to play his role.

[TGW]

If you're trying to win games on NBA2K14, then sure, trade for Smith.

If you're actually trying to win basketball games in real life, you don't trade for Smith.

Trading for Smith would be a terrible move for so many different reasons.

[penbeast0]

Not a fan of Monroe for this team . . . slow, postup scorer with weak defense . . . not what you want for Nene. Maybe in place of Gortat who is a similar player (better defense but older).

[pcbothwel]

If you're trying to win games on NBA2K14, then sure, trade for Smith.

If you're actually trying to win basketball games in real life, you don't trade for Smith.

Trading for Smith would be a terrible move for so many different reasons.

Thank GOD...I really cant believe people would consider trading for this guy and his contract with out compensation.

[verbal8]

But if DET wants to move Smith, they might be able to get a bit more. Maybe an expiring and a pick from a desperate team?
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Smith was pretty bad last year. If any team is giving up a pick they will demand a S&T of Monroe rather than the privilege of paying $26 million to Josh Smith(assuming 1st year salaries are equal).

The one thing about Smith is that he way underperformed his historical averages. Now, I am not saying that he would be worth his contract even at those averages. But there is a very good chance that (in the right environment) he will jump back to his usual output.

4 years ago Josh Smith didn't shoot any 3 pointers and played PF. He replaced those shots with inside shots, his long 2s were almost identical. His 3 point shooting is so frequent and bad, it really holds him back from being a productive player. Another concerning stat, his free throw percentage has dropped to below 55% the last couple years.

[dckingsfan]

Smith was pretty bad last year. If any team is giving up a pick they will demand a S&T of Monroe rather than the privilege of paying $26 million to Josh Smith(assuming 1st year salaries are equal).

The one thing about Smith is that he way underperformed his historical averages. Now, I am not saying that he would be worth his contract even at those averages. But there is a very good chance that (in the right environment) he will jump back to his usual output.

4 years ago Josh Smith didn't shoot any 3 pointers and played PF. He replaced those shots with inside shots, his long 2s were almost identical. His 3 point shooting is so frequent and bad, it really holds him back from being a productive player. Another concerning stat, his free throw percentage has dropped to below 55% the last couple years.

So, do you think he is in a slide and done or do you think he will rebound to where he was? Or do you think as long as he plays SF he can't make the jump back?